*DAMN R6 Forum

Listen aSs, just because you want to protect your buddies, that's beyond your control.  I'm responding to BUCC's nonsense and that fool should be the one with the warning.  You're just out to protect your buddy, since I'm breaking it down like it is.  That fool crosses the line EVERY FUCKEN DAY and when I step to end his nonsense, you try and stop me?  It's all coming too clear now and I'm taking SS's of this nonsense so Mauti can see the way you guys manipulate these forums to your biasness.  Now end your nonsense and get  off my case and if you want to properly moderate, give BUCC a warning and not me.  He doesn't play RS or R6 and comes in our community causing trouble.  He's the obvious problem here. >:(

Here's the POST he keeps deleting in response to BUCC coming into my post to start arguements when we're supposed to be mourning.


Bucc, WTF is your problem man!  I specifically asked for no stupid ass fucken remarks and you come in here trying to start arguments!  WTF is with your obsession to argue? >:(  Are you that depressed in real life that you need to fulfill yourself with constant bickering and opposing opinions in a forum NOT MADE TO ARGUE, but made to share thoughts and fix differences in the RS/R6 Community.  All you do is come in these forums and read people's posts and start attacking them with your "opinion".  Dude, get a fucken life.  Let us RS gamers have our fun and let us chat with each other in peace without your difference of opinion attitude.  You don't play RS nor R6, so you need to get off all of our conversations and stop butting in.  I am sick of coming in these forums and seeing you trying to "debate issues" with all of our MAC RS/R6 members, yet give nothing back to our community but headaches.  You pass on egotistical, argumentative vibes that are not even needed or called for, yet you feel you need to stir things up.  Get off my case, and get off everybody else's case you're trying to get into.  You're over it man.  Go find some gamers that play your game.  Stop spreading your overdramatic blabber on us.  We know you're an old folk with the need to share what you think you know, and are trying to confirm it by conflicting opinions in a forum dedicated to people that like to have competitive fun with no fucking School Principals trying to steer us  any which way.  Stop your constant conflicts and goto MacClans.com forums and do your nonsense.  It definately is not needed in these forums.  I'm sick of your shit...  We don't care about your conflicting opinion you have to throw about everything we say.  You're so much smarter and better, that you should realize that 1) We don't want to hear it and won't hear it and will laugh at your paragraphs you write for your "forum acceptance" 2) Don't care to hear it since you've already presented yourself in such a fucked up ways.  Go kick it in your MacClans forums and stop trying to come in the real RS/R6 Mac Clans Forums made by people with soul behind the cause.  Take your Abusive Egotistical Ass back to your deal with the rest of the scum.  We're here to play RS and peacefully talk about subjects both parties are interested in.  Your conficting opinions have over stayed their welcome.  Now get off your high horse and back to your mule.  Fucken fool...  >:(  

Title edited to make more sense for the rest of the thread concerning the situation.-assassin

Yeah, get me banned...

Listen aSs.   Just because you're soo in need to protect bucc, but not protect the rest of us when he comes in causing trouble, is a clear sign of your bias ways.  You have clearly been bias in the case where bucc comes in disrespecting the death of JamMasterJay and RUN DMC in my thread.  Instead of you warning him, you let him go.  Guess what, that's bias actions.  Now pls BL Mods don't delteda ny of this so Mauti can see what I'm talking about.  I'm sick of Bucc coming into our threads starting arguements for no reason, and I gave him a piece of my mind, along with many others.  Now snce I'm the one to stand up against this guy's nonsense, I'm being viewed as some kind of bad character.  Anybody can take only so much abuse before they're over it.  I'm over it. Bondo's over it.  Zait's over it.  Typhy's over it.  We're over it.  Now we're going to have it out and ban bucc and get aSs and Ace of being GG Mods since they're bias ways are obstructing with their duties.  It's not ok to let people come in other people's posts and start disrespecting one's opinion.  Of course to aSs and Ace it is since it's being done against me.  No more of that nonsense and it's all coming to an end... >:(

 Concerns that I?ve had with a certain moderator have just escalated. This certain moderator, if of course Ace. I personally, have nothing against Ace as a forum poster. Poster being the key word in that. I have documented through screen shots, Ace deleting a post by |?K| Rapid. I have nothing against deleting posts, and support deleting spam. Rapid?s post wasn?t spam. And I can be sure that if it were someone other than Rapid posting that, it wouldn?t have been deleted. Rapid?s post read as followed:

 ?Bucc, WTF is your problem man!  I specifically asked for no stupid ass fucken remarks and you come in here trying to start arguments!  WTF is with your obsession to argue?   Are you that depressed in real life that you need to fulfill yourself with constant bickering and opposing opinions in a forum NOT MADE TO ARGUE, but made to share thoughts and fix differences in the RS/R6 Community.  All you do is come in these forums and read people's posts and start attacking them with your "opinion".  Dude, get a fucken life.  Let us RS gamers have our fun and let us chat with each other in peace without your difference of opinion attitude.  You don't play RS nor R6, so you need to get off all of our conversations and stop butting in.  I am sick of coming in these forums and seeing you trying to "debate issues" with all of our MAC RS/R6 members, yet give nothing back to our community but headaches.  You pass on egotistical, argumentative vibes that are not even needed or called for, yet you feel you need to stir things up.  Get off my case, and get off everybody else's case you're trying to get into.  You're over it man.  Go find some gamers that play your game.  Stop spreading your overdramatic blabber on us.  We know you're an old folk with the need to share what you think you know, and are trying to confirm it by conflicting opinions in a forum dedicated to people that like to have competitive fun with no fucking School Principals trying to steer us  any which way.  Stop your constant conflicts and goto MacClans.com forums and do your nonsense.  It definately is not needed in these forums.  I'm sick of your shit...  We don't care about your conflicting opinion you have to throw about everything we say.  You're so much smarter and better, that you should realize that 1) We don't want to hear it and won't hear it and will laugh at your paragraphs you write for your "forum acceptance" 2) Don't care to hear it since you've already presented yourself in such a fucked up ways.  Go kick it in your MacClans forums and stop trying to come in the real RS/R6 Mac Clans Forums made by people with soul behind the cause.  Take your Abusive Egotistical Ass back to your deal with the rest of the scum.  We're here to play RS and peacefully talk about subjects both parties are interested in.  Your conficting opinions have over stayed their welcome.  Now get off your high horse and back to your mule.  Fucken fool...   ?

That's Rapid?s post. Insulting towards Bucc, but nothing farther than much of the stuff that is said by people about Rapid. Bucc made a comment against rap in a thread about a rapper dying. That's like if in a thread about Walter Payton?s death a few years ago, if the topic starter said that he didn?t want to hear anything against football in this, and the first post was about how stupid football is. Then the topic starter would have the right to respond with a post like this. Attacks by a moderator, against a member through deleting posts are totally unacceptable. I?m not alone in people who think that Ace is about the worst possible person, aside from maybe SK, to be a moderator.


 

 Part 2: Next, to Sin?s comments: I think that Sin?s opinion is clearly illustrated in his comments ?Please ban this fool for at least a week?. - Sin isn?t doing his job as a moderator through making comments like this. If he feels that Rapid deserves a warning, then it?s his job to simply post that, not add editorial comments about it.

Sin, you put Rapid in a situation where he can?t win. He has comments to make that aren?t spam. And then some dumb shit moderator deletes his post, and then another moderator steps up and accuses him of spamming his post over and over because it was deleted. In a public forum, its Rapid?s right to have his opinion of matters, and if he can do so in a non spam for, which this is here, then his post must remain.

It?s not Rapid?s fault that Ace has been abusing his moderation abilities. Rapid is treated differently than anyone else here, for things that he's done in the past. Here is an example of what Ace did using different members: Pretend that I was a moderator at these forums, and I saw Brain ( I use you as example since you?re one of my wubbers ;) ) make a post that was in response to something, wasn?t spam, but was directed in an insulting manner to one of my friends, and I deleted it. That's exactly what happened here. If Bucc or someone made this exact same post against Rapid, I?m 100% sure that it wouldn?t get deleted. You guys want to act like Rapid thinks that everything is a conspiracy against him, but at this point, I?d have to argue that many things are; such as this.

Personally, I think that Ace deserves a ban from the forums far before Rapid. I look at his post, I see that its not spam, I just see that its insulting to Bucc. The reason that it was deleted, is because you disagree with it. If everything that the moderators disagreed with, almost everything would be deleted in many cases. Being a moderator doesn?t meant that you get to delete posts that you disagree with, or ones that you find insulting. Being a moderator is a job that you are chosen to do based on your skills. If you can?t do your job by deleting spam, and locking the threads that need to be locked, without deleting posts that you disagree with, then you shouldn?t be a moderator.

Just now noticed Sin?s new post in the Battle League, I followed things to the RS FAQ, where he is keeping Rapid?s post. The thing that Sin doesn?t notice given that he lacks an important thing that most people have, that being a brain; Rapid?s posts all say the same fucking thing. You dumb shit moderators are attempting to get him ban, most likely by saying that he's posting the same thing over and over. The reason though, is because he has things that he wants to say, and you?re deleting his posts.

If you dumb shits had brains enough to know how to run a forum ( Referring to certain GG moderators ), then you wouldn?t have let this happen in the first place, you would?ve seen that his posts aren?t spam, and you wouldn?t have deleted them. But I really don?t think that's the problem. I don?t think that you deleted his posts because you thought that they were spam. I believe that you deleted them because you disagreed with what he says. Perhaps that you fools should go to www.ambrosiasw.com, go to the forums, and go to the ?EV Image Gallery? - I will bring back one of the old ?What it takes to be a moderator? threads. You guys need the advice for sure.

 

crap?  It's the truth.   You are trying to block the truth from our community.  Since I have a valid point, You try and shut it down to stop me from spreading my message to the real troublemaker, Bucc.  He geets to come in and disrespect other's opinions, but I'm not allowed to say something to bucc when he disrespect my post, because you and ace say so?  I don't think so, Mauti and the rest of *DAMN  don't play that.  In fact, the BL mods don't play that.  I responded to Bucc's nonsense and asked for his post to be removed to have you clowns delete my post over and over like 10 times because you don't want our community to see the truth?  Hmmm, I wonder who's at fault aSs...

typhy, it was assassin, not ace.  why are you blaming ace?

for anyone else to read, assassin also deleted my response to rapid's first post, and told me why.  he wants to avoid another huge flame war.

now, instead of dealing directly with the moderator about this, rapid chose to spam his same post over and over again.  so i can't see why they all wouldn't have been deleted, except in the last case where assassin was trying to make the point stick.

for rapid, i'll put this in words that you understand.  just shut the fuck up with your crying like a little girl already.  you didn't get your poor little way and get hosted, so now, true to form, you are going to pick that scab every fucking chance you can.  grow up.

I'm choosing to keep this post in this forum, not because it is on topic but because it is within my domain so it won't be tampered by others.  Of the spam threads this one is the one that I've seen that is at least somewhat productive so I think it would be wrong to sweep it under the rug.

I have stated before that I think there are issues about some moderator's behavior not being fitting of how a moderator should act.  So I understand where Rapid is coming from in part.  Still, that doesn't excuse his spam rampage.  There are more productive ways of dealing with things.  So yes, I will support him having a ban (not permanant or excessive, just a punishment).  But I also think the mod situation needs to be looked at.

Thanks for confirming it Deadeye(dumbass).  The point of "being hosted" is the problem here.  Ace and aSs let you and bucc do anything to anybody, but as soon as the opposing party replies with logic and intelligence that owns them, Ace and aSs come to their rescue to protect the "Inner Forum Circle".  Too bad that your ways are coming to a closing and soon we'll have forums where clans can come chat and share their competitive differences in a good positive irie vibe, as opposed to the environment we have going on right now with you fools spoiling it for everyone.  It'll all end soon and you'll be shocked that the Real MAC? Clans Website and Forums won't be taken over by a bunch of old grumpy men that want to argue every point a RS/R6 player brings up just for the sake of arguing.  That's all coming to a close.

Typhy, fuck off you little brat. Rapid obviously tried to start a flamewar and I stopped him. He got pissed at it and decided to keep posting and posting and posting. I wanred him once, it continued. I warned him twice, he kept posting. Ace warned him a third time, and the crap kept flowing. He posted near 30 threads.

P.S. I can ask for a ban and call him a fool because that is what he is, a fool.

If you don't like how this forum is run, stay the fuck away from it. Go cry to your ambrosia boards because quite frankly, I don't give a damn. These forums run very smoothly when we dont have assholes trying to start flamewars with everyone.

Also, BUcc was not starting a flamewar, he said that rap isnt the biggest movement in music history like you claimed, and he was right. There is no argument to that. You could have left it alone and let it be, but you had to post 30 threads of the same thing.

 *Sigh* - Deadeye, I am blaming Ace because he was the one who was first deleting Rapid's posts in the origonal thread. Ace can be blamed for the fact that this whole thing started. If Ace or Sin sent Rapid a polite private message explaining why his post was deleted, I'm sure that he'd be ok with it 99% of the time. I will give step by step instructions as to what to do before you post again, so that your small mind can comprehend it.

1.) I am assuming that you're able to get to the forums. Now, go to the main forum page, click on the link that says "RS FAQ", read Rapid's origonal post against Bucc.

2.) Open a new window in your browser by either hitting "Command N" or going to the "File" menue, and selecting "New".

3.) Come to the main page of the forums, click on the Genral Gossip. Open the thread titled " ::JamMasterJay from RUN DMC was shot dead last nite::".

4.) Put the two browser windows side by side.

5.) Try and read it as if Rapid's post was at the end of that topic.

Perhaps through this, you will get a little more understanding as towards how this started. Come back and post again once your done with that, and if you can't follow my instructions, then PM me if you can find out how and I will write them again, and try and make them even more simple.

The only reason that I kept re-posting my post, was because I found it extremely unfair that these mods were deleting my voice, just to let their friend's voice be heard louder than mine.  So I felt the right to repost my post since they were disrespecting me for deleting my posts.  It's not as if I just came out and put 10 posts all spam all rookie.  These mods kept deleting them, so I kept re-posting them back up.  Now if they want to make it look as if I just came in the boards and spammed my message 10 times with its sole purpose to spam, that's completely false and incorrect.  I reposted my post after I would look and see that these 2 mods, Ace and aSs, deleted them with no explanation.  Now don't let nobody brainwash you to think something otherwise because it is so crystal clear.  Thanks.

-Rapid-

Rapid's post got deleted because it was an attempt at creating a flamewar, so did bucs responce. I don't see buc going apeshit spamming threads left and right.
You clearly don't understand what it means to be wrong rapid, that is why your post got deleted, most normal people would acept that. However you imagine yourself as a maryter for the RS community, dispite the fact that no one takes you seriously. If you wanted to deal with this in a mature manner you could email mauti, but thats not to be expected from you i guess, so instead the forum gets bombed with spam that no one gives a shit about.

i guess i can await a draw out double post from typhy on why rapid is right, and everyone else (especialy me).

one more thing,
You don't get a fucking explanation for a post getting deleted, no one is deleting your posts for fun because the reprocussions of it seem to be a forum loaded with spam, and 2 idiots saying that rapid isn't wrong for what he did. SK gets tons of his posts deleted simply because they are spam, and he is mature enough to not bitch about it.
Grow up rapid

Ok, I decided to move the thread into this forum as it is actually on-topic here (although it's flame content is such that it normally would not be allowed...but in this instance no good would come from deleting it right now.

Deadeye and Sin...the way you've responded is not really appropriate.  Rapid and Typhy may not be respected posters, but you two are supposed to be...you are in the Black Ops for a reason.  You have sunk to a level that isn't fitting of such a position here.  You need to lead by example.

Getting to the complaints...I think it IS time we look at who is appropriate to be moderating the forums.  Also to be looked at is cementing a firm set of posting guidelines so that it is an objective,  not a subjective system.

Jeb, you being Bucc's and Deadeye's sidekick, makes your post invalid, since it's obviously biased and of course, it's against me and you do anything against me, including jumping in other's arguements against me, making you just another fly in the pack.  

Bucc's post didn't get deleted.  In fact, I asked for it to get deleted and got mine deleted instead...

Bucc was starting the nonsense when I'm breaking down the existence of RUN DMC in a post,  to have an ignorant camper come in with a stereotypical comment to start contradicting with me, when I specifically asked for the nonsense not to be posted.   Why put down JamMasterJay or RUN DMC when a member of their group has died?  Because the mind of a moron with no respect drives them to act the fool in a situation of RESPECT.  Of course, since this is against me, the "Inner Forum Circle" can tag team against me and make me look bad when I'm in the right, and they're in the wrong...

rapid, your dumbass posts your "voice" aka. SPAM in a public forum all can see it, theirfore my opinion on this matters just as much as your retoric. So i guess if you don't want me to post in this forum typhy shouldn't either. And typhy is the only one of you that knows how to use a comma.

To the varius people who have addressed me...

Rapid: You have been around long enough so that your m.o. is painfully predictable. That post was starting a flamewar. You know it, and I know it. Get over it already.

Typhy: This has absolutely nothing to do with me being friends with Bucc. Hell, if someone can really nail Bucc, I would think it's hilarious. The problem lies in how Rapid goes about it. If he were to construct a logical, non-combative post, he would not have it deleted. And for the record, Rapid reposted his comment in less than a minute. He obviously didn't care why it was deleted, he just wanted to scream until he got his comment up there.

Bondo: How in any way was this an example of poor moderating. Honestly, look at what he posted and then tell me if you really think that deserves to be left up. As for what Deadeye and Sin said, don't you think Rapid would get on your nerves after a while too? Sin has to deal with the messes he leaves, and Deadeye gets crap 24/7 for not hosting Rapid's site on the bandwidth that he pays for. I don't blame them for letting some steam off.

 Yeah, I am good with the comas but I often forget the periods, I once turned in a 2 page book report that had no periods... Jeb, Rapid's posts aren't spam at all. For a perfect example of spam, look at SK's posts. Spamming is when you don't care about an issue, and just post for no real reason. Rapid only posts things that are important to him.

Next, I think that everyone, including Rapid and I can agree that his post was an attack on Bucc. However, to me it seems like a justifyed attack. This is a far bigger issue than just Rapid. I know Rapid well, he could care less if he gets a forum ban if things begin to change for the better. And with Sin abusing his moderator powers, I expect to see a punishment of the removal of his moderator powers.

Just now noticed your post Ace. I would agree that Rapid probably handled this poorly. But, I seriously think that eventually someone needed to do somthing like this. Rapid took on what myself, and many others don't have the guts to do. Someone had to point out the mistakes that the moderators were making through causing some trouble, rather than just starting a dumb thread about it ( Like Loudnotes and I ), or just bitching about it in chat.  

Yet you blame Rapid for letting off steam when he gets it worse then Deadeye and Sin?

Anyways, I never said anything about you moderating poorly.  I was commenting in general that people who are given the privilidge of being moderators should post in a manner that follows the rules.  But I never mentioned you name so...

You've made a thread dedicated to me before Bondo. It doesn't take a kindengardener to do 2 + 2.

Deadeye and Sin are letting off steam in a thread you basically stated was all flaming. Rapid tried to turn an otherwise worthwhile thread into a flamewar.

i'll start with bondo,

bondo, i'm not a moderator here.  i have zero concern over the example i'm setting with this post.  that's your opinion, fine, but i don't care.

typhy,


so that my small mind can comprehend it eh?  ok, i'll remember that one asshole.

what your little mind didn't comprehend was that i responded to rapids first post, it was also deleted, by assassin.  nice to see that your little mind could actually wrap itself around that in my previous post.

i read rapids bullshit, in context to bucc.  and i think it smells of a whining little girl that just wants to start a fight with bucc, for no reason.  it was i that blackballed rapid from macclans, even though the retard continues to blame bucc.  now he's upset becuase bucc was having a conversation about run dmc in a thread about them.  how petty does he get?

oh, and spam is also repeating the same thing over and over.

To the retard (that's you Rapid, if you can't tell),

exactly what did bucc say to show this disrespect that you say towards jam master jay?  i see your quote, but i also see it missing some of his words.  a quick copy and :

yeah, real disrespectful.  nothing but props to run dmc from the way i read that.  what were you reading?

so yes rapid, your actions are all about you holding a grudge against bucc, for something that wasn't even his decision.  so, by all means, continue to be a complete asshole.  it just affirms that i made the right choice.

to the mods,

sorry to fan the flames of this fire, but this bullshit gets on my nerves.

*sigh* I thought you weren't attached to Rapid by the ass anymore, but I guess I was wrong. How am I abusing powers when I delete spam? Obviously, you are lacking something upstairs if you think I wasn't justified in deleting his crap.

As for my "abuses of power," tell me how I was abusing it. I did in fact tell him to stop posting his threads because all they were were flame posts...read what I posted in about the 4th or 5th thread that he posted:


In there, I told him that he was starting a flamewar and furthur posting would lead to a ban. All of his posts were flames.

Hell, I didn't even have to post something like this, but I was being nice by doing so. When you spam or violate other forum rules, you aren't even entitled to a reason why your post was deleted. You should realize what you have posted was in violation. If Rapid was stupid enough not to realize that his posts were made with the intent of starting a war of words, then he truely is ignorant.

Grow up, Rapid acted childish and he will be dealt with...I don't think anyone with a rational mind would disagree with that.

Ace, my thread about you wasn't even a flame...it was just telling you to follow the rules.  It is Bucc's and your fault that the thread turned into a flame war.

As for you Deadeye, I thought I made myself clear when I said you shouldn't post like that...but now I'm forced to give you an official warning.  Oh, and Typhy, if you reply in the manner Deadeye did, you'll get a warning too.

Rapid naturally has gone beyond a warning with his stuff.

and maybe i didn't make myslef clear bondo, i didn't care.  still don't.  i responded the way i was addressed.  you think i should be held to a higher standard, good for you.  i don't agree.  

I'm moving this back to GG. . .people need to see it.

Deadeye, my warning was based on the same standard as other posters, not on an inflated one.

Deadeye, don't respond to that...let's not create a flamewar. Same goes to you Bondo, cease with the bickering.

As for everyone else, if you post in here and it doesn't contibute to the thread, it will be deleted and you will be one step closer to being put on the warning list.[/b]

What everyone seems to be overlooking, is the fact that Bucc came into my post to start "correcting" me to his opinion of what he feels.  I specifically asked for that type of attitude and posts to not come in to this thread, and when I come back a couple days later to see, is The First Post by Bucc questioning what I stated, starting conflict.  I don't know who Bucc thinks he is trying to correct me, but he surely isn't any supporter of the Hip-Hop community and wouldn't know jack shit of the first thing in "Rap and Hip-Hop".  Rap is Hip-Hop.  It's one of the 4 Elements of Hip-Hop with the other 3 being BreakDancing, Graffiti and DJ'ing.  When I posted my statement it was in clear context of what was being stated, yet Bucc felt the need to try and correct it, as if he's an expert in the field.  I found that damn insulting and the fact that I asked for no nonsense like that to be started in the first, took me over the edge when I looked back and the 1st post, started the ignorant flaming.  Sure he tried to be a nice flamer, but that just doesn't cut it. >:(  Also, the fact it had to be him trying to correct me, when he was the one throwing it in my face how him and Deadeye had their MacClans decision of banning |?K|, since I'm the webmaster and leader, but somehow be nice to the rest of my clan(yeah, go figure how...), it truly hit the wrong button.  Who do you think you are coming in correcting me as if you're in the right to do so?  Rap and Hip-Hop has been the biggest movement in Music thanks to RUN DMC.  Now people want to come in and disrespect what good is being said of some dead artists, and try to justify it by saying I'm overreacting, I got news for you.  You fools are all disrespectful to RUN DMC and is why I snapped, as anybody would for a band, especially a legendary one like RUN DMC, that they believe in.  I stated everything in my post in good taste, to share the knowledge of this tragedy.  It wasn't mean for some computer geeks to try and come correcting what I'm praising...   Damn Disrespectful fools...

assassin, ok, i'll let it go, but i'd like to hear from another mod if my post was below some warning threashold or not.

for everyone else, i think it's obvious from rapid's twisting bucc's quote to his complaints about macclans, that this was never about run dmc.  it was about a bruised ego.

There, that's Bucc's original post. Bucc straight up says how Run DMC was incredibly influential. That's as far from disrespect as it gets. The only possibly contentious point is that he doesn't think that Rap is the biggest movement in the music industry. That's not starting a flamewar, that's stating his opinion. Honestly Rapid, look at what you are starting this mess over. I find it quite ridiculous.

This guy's correcting me as if he's some expert in the subject or as if that's needed in a thread where only good things are supposed to be said Ace.  Now get off my case.  I love how you computer geeks get off trying to correct other people.  Hip-Hop is Rap, not 2 different categories like Bucc tried to correct me.  Now stay off my case.  Bucc should've been warned for his Extra Curricular Negative Criticism.  Instead you guys go after me, since you're out to get me no matter what I say...  He shouldn't of even tried to start correcting me or trying to criticize Hip-Hop or Rap all together.  It's that negative energy that is no different then SK's post, a couple posts down,  saying "All Rap is crap", the type of  BS I didn't want there.  It's a place to give respect to a Legend.  Some of you computer geeks just don't understand that though...   It's a ugly breed you got going on there...

1.  Extra curricular?
2.  Are you seriously calling people in a computer gaming forum "computer geeks"?  NO SHIT!  What do you think we are?
3.  Remember, this is a R6 forum.  You don't have to be upset just because people are insentive to rap here.  
4.  By making this into a big issue, you've created just as much negative energy.

Now, at this point you could go flying off the handle at me, and lose any sympathy you've got on this forum.  But I think if you post a thread publicly retracting any negative comments, apologizing for spamming the board, and promising to change, you won't be banned.  And everyone will be happier in the end.

So. . .all you have to do is admit you are wrong.  In a new thread, very prominently.

Mods. . .back me up on this one.

Rapid, if you would note, he begins the sentence in question with "I don't think," thus admitting he is no expert on the subject. He is merely stating his opinion in a very neutral manner. No one else even really noticed it until you blew it out of proportion.

Ace, I think you posted at the same time I did. . .

How do you feel about forgiving Rapid if he posts a retraction. . .

(btw just delete this double post once you've seen it)

Sure, if Rapid apologizes for his actions, I would be willing to let things slide. We all make mistakes.

PS - Leaving your double post up so I don't get yelled at for double posting. :P

Bah. . .you just like that you've got 100 more posts than I do now.

WOW.  So much going on since last I visited.

Loudnotes and Assassin, I'll keep up my side by not contributing to the flame war that is brewing here.  

I will say, in my own defense, that I don't think I said anything negative, and I know I didn't mean anything negative towards the memory of jammaster jay or Run DMC.  Even looking back at my post I don't understand how it could be taken in such a negative way.  But for anyone that thought it was negative, it wasn't.  I also don't see any criticism in my posts in that thread.  I ask if anyone besides Rapid does?

Bondo,
 I just have to address this very quickly. Frankly, I cannot believe that you are taking Rapid and Typhy's side that the moderator did something wrong. Buccaneer's posts always have point to them, a reason for posting. They are never there just to start a flame war. Look at Rapid's in comparison. Shouldn't be hard to find, there were about 30 of them... So, Assassin saw the post, was like... "A while string dedicated to spread 'Inner Circle' theories and to bash Bucc? This can't turn out well." Frankly, it WOULD have been a flame war. Again, Buccaneer's posts are always created for the reason, not to start a war.

So, Assassin deletes the post that would have created a flame war (admit it. you would have posted there too!) And then... Then Rapid reposts. Assassin, a bit off guard, deletes it and tells Rapid to stop. Now, what does Rapid do? Post it more. Assassin again deleted and then AGAIN offers a warning! 2 warnings. That's more then most have gotten. Then Rapid continues to post, direct disobedience. This time Ace (who saw all this happen) deletes it and suggests a ban. What's Rapid's response? You would think an apology.

No, Rapid decides to spam the WHOLE forum with trash. I went to the RS FAQ... where not even half the posts were moved... It took up a whole page... If you would like to think this was the fault of the moderator, be my guest, but I would not blame Ace or Assassin for a thing. Not their fault in the least!

Ben

Try not bitching at each other and trying to work this out peacefully

Edited my post to the point

OmG RAPID How many damn post did you make saying the exact same thing now i see why he should be ban

Casper, i have it saved, don't worry. I just wanted to make a point heh.

so your saying that anyone can make dozens of spam threads (yes its spam when you  bomb it over and over typhy) simply to get noticed? And then bucc should get in trouble because he disagrees with rapid over a stupid issue.
And aparently by deleting the dozens of threads rapid made is abusing moditorial powers.
look at SK, he got 1 warning, then he spammed some more and got banned.
Rapid seems to have been warned 4 times within the course of his spamming and like a rapist he doesn't know what "stop" means. It isn't like rapid has a spotless record before that happened so i don't see why he should get off. nj on "fighting fire with fire rapid.
jeb


[Just when things start to cool down, Jeb comes along. :P Edited for my sanity. Ace]
don't push me man, i'll make 70 topics on this shit you bastard admin  ;)

I just wanted to get my two cents in here. This has nothing to do w/rapid's personal issues or any flame wars going on, simply with the nature of the forums, which seemed to be the deeper issue behind rapid's original post.

bucc made a contention about a statement rapid made that was presented as a fact (which it is not). rapid got all pissed that someone disagreed with what he said and posted a bunch of really dumb shit that made me punch the wall when i even considered the existence of such a dumb person [geez, thats pretty much a flame? sorry]. rapid tried to speak for the RS community, trying to make it look like a few people that control the forums are ruining it for everyone else. i would like to say as a person of no authority and a person that isnt really in the "inner circle" you speak of (not that such a thing exists) that if the forums became what you obviously think the should be, a bunch of rogue spearers posting things specific to rogue spear than i think that a lot fewer people would come here. this type of discussion and discourse is what makes the forums interesting and keeps me coming back. wtf would be the point of "general gossip" otherwise? and who are you to criticize someone for disagreeing or being disrespectful? from what i've seen you've shown nothing but disrespect for anyone other than the people in your clan and a few other people you want to side with you in arguments. so please dont come to the forums here speaking for the rogue spear community stating what they want, because i really doubt that more than a few people agree with what you had to say on this particular post.

Ben, I never said I supported Rapid...nor did I say that in this instance there was abuse of moderator powers.  I'm for being stern with Rapid

ok, he's right ben.  he didn't say it in those words.  he just implied the hell out of it.

Jeb. . .threatening to do exactly what Rapid just did isn't showing your customary good judgement (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif)

and the tinderbox goes FOOM!

wasn't it just a short while ago soemone was comenting on rapids innate ability to start flame wars? Well, this has all but devolved into one, so i think it's about time i jumped into the fray.


Rapid, when a thing such as this happens, don't get all too pissy about it. if you notice an insulting post or one that seems to be out of line, just put a post after it that says

"mod, please delete _____'s post."

i'm pretty sure that'd take care of it.


Bucc, you may not have insulted rap or JamMastaJay, you you sure ripped the hell out of Rapid's post. He's in here, trying to put up a bit of a memorial for Jay, and you come in and nitpick on two minor points in his post, that he called rap hip-hop (the two are interchangeable in my mind) and that he called it the biggest music movement in the world. Sure, they're valid points, but is that the time and place to bring 'em up? No need to be super-technical about all the details.


just playin' devils advocate here...

<-----Is not trying to start up another flame war


ok first off lets brake this into catagories

1: Rapid, someone deleted your posts right??  my posts used to get deleleted all the time and for one reason, i belived its called Spam

spell it now S-P-A-M

2: Rapid after a mod deleted your posts you started a thred somone deleted that and you repeated to do so how many times???

3: Buck.   Buck your post was fine and rapid is telling the people not to start flamewars in this thred(which rapid dose) and buck says its sad that he died but it wasnt like he was a major musical person(beatles, elvis)  What is that people, NOT SPAM

lets spell it rapid N-O-T S-P-A-M

4: back to rapid.  Rapid if you dont like the way these forums are run and how people delete your spam(which i have now stoped)  than leave.  If you want to be respected.......go get a new GR and forum acount because it will never b

-SK

Actually Bucc, I never even implied that there were moderators abusing their powers...I made it quite clear that there are moderators who I don't think should be moderators, but it is because they break rules such as the no personal attacks thing that we established for members of Black Ops.  It has nothing to do with them editing posts, deleting posts or any other moderator ability, it has to do with how they themselves post.  Nice try though.

damn rapid will be baned intill the 20th of november(hurray) and he will never get to read this post.  mb somone email it to him  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif)


hehe admins and moderators handeld this situation well  good job

-SK

 SK, go back and actually read my fucking post.

Ok, first, make up your mind.  Is ripping all to hell, or is it just two minor points?  If I had ripped it all to hell, wouldn't that be saying how Run DMC had no influence, or that RAP/ Hip Hop wasn't even a dent in the music industry?  So, I have to disagree with you that I ripped his post to hell.

Also, the point about RAP and HIP HOP was a question.  Not a rip, insult or whatever.  Around Motown, they are considered different.  It was a valid question.  And I don't think it inappropriate.

Now, if you leave my comments in context, it's no different then my comments about Paul Wellstone.  I shared my feelings about it, in the context of the post.  

I also want to point out a couple things for you.

1) Rapid doesn't own a thread, so saying that my post should be deleted doesn't make it true.

2) My post was not disrespectful, or meant to be in any way.  There were no insults or negativity as Rapid claimed.

3) There were many posts there that were negative, but Rapid chose to pick on mine, think about that.

4) Rapid altered my quote, making it appear worse then it was.

5) In most of Rapids rants, he talks as much about MacClans as he does about Jammaster Jay.  

It seems pretty obvious to me that he was just looking for a reason to pick a fight with me.  Or just try to get me banned.  This appears to be a pattern with him.

I think that was supposed to be directed at Deadeye.

muahaha, i just get back from a debate tournament, and now this?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/shocked2.gif) you gents are just amazing. i think it's time for some cookieism.

ok, from what i've observed, i hold the following to be true:
Rapid is pissed at Bucc and presumably this "inner circle" for conspiring not to host his site. at the first opportunity to strike out at Bucc, he takes it.

Buccaneer was expressing an opinion. Rapid claims Bucc was being contentious but from what i see he was simply expressing his thoughts on an issue. I mean really, the fact that Rapid thinks whatever he says in a thread about someone dying is automatically right and can't go uncontested in any way just adds credibility to the mods claims about him picking fights.

capt's post is also right, somehow (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

Bondo, we're pals, but the way you're going about this is utterly stupid. You gave deadeye a warning for saying asshole, but how many times has rapid responded like that to a post, or countless other posters for that matter? Rapid and about 20 other people should have been banned about 20 times over for that offense, then. And I'm really beginning to think you're a masochist and you like all this verbal abuse, because it seems you're always going the opposite direction of things. Insult or compliment, i do not know.

and now for my closing statements..
I think that the mods should even get more harsh with crap like this. Seriously, how many months has this bs been tolerated? Far too many, i think. When we have people picking bitch fights left and right it really takes away from the fun as well as the average IQ of these forums. All this quarreling sure as hell dissuades me from posting.. so i think (this is to all the mods) in the future you should take a zero tolerance stance on this crap and just start banning people. And if you don't like the moderating here, piss off.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

Well, I was pushing for a one month ban (minimum), but I guess Mauti only wanted to give him 17 days. Rapid has gotten off pretty easy so far, but if he starts it up again right after his ban, he should be out of here for a long time.

Typhy, I am still waiting for you to respond to my post at the top of page 2 or tell me firmly how I abused my mod powers and should be kicked. Only you and Rapid have openly thought that so far, so I want you to explain your reasoning.

Damnit Bucc, you and Deadeye should develop unique posting styles since I don't look at the name thing ;).  Yes, that was directed at Deadeye.  I must commend you Bucc, you've remained above the fray here.

Cookie...there is a difference...under our current lack of stable rules...I am forced to draw a distinction between allowable in normal threads, and allowable in threads that walk the edge of going into flame wars.  If you'll notice, after my warnings the thread took on a calmer appearance so it worked as I had hoped.

i think the latter happened because rapid isnt here to piss people off.  :P

Bondo... You said

I'm responding to that. You shpouldn't blame deadeye sin or bucc or Ace. They did their jobs and defended themselves from Rapids uber spam... I have no problem with the adminning here!

Ben

Yes, it has been confirmed, Rapid is the reason the abortion was invented.

You are like Casper...do not use Red in this forum or it will be changed to a different color of my choosing. -assassin

 To start out with Sin; if you can't find out what you did wrong, not only are you a bad moderator, but a dumbass too. Also, to your not allowing people to use the color red: Normaly, a moderator note is a subtle reminder of somthing. If you want to make a clear note about somthing, then you should make a new post. That is why normaly the color back is used for notes. Its obvious that you have no forum experience other than these boards.

Bondo, you say "You are in the Black Ops section for a reason", yeah, because they are friends with KoS Dest, thats the reason, obviously sown by the fact that Jeb is in it, it has nothing to do with quality of posts.

I think that its important that Rapid gets his say on things like this, because of that, I will of course be sending him emails showing all your posts, and posting what he wants posted for him.  

Whatever Typhy, you are the only malcontent who thinks anything was done wrong because you have your head so far up Rapid's ass that you can't see the truth. You still lack the proof that I ask for...Rapid was starting a flamewar and that is why his shit was deleted. He was publicly warned in a visible fashion and he ignored it. He got what he deserved.

As for the red text thing, it is put up there so people know what happened to their post. It is a waste of room to post another thing in a thread saying what was edited out of a post. Get that through your tiny brain.

For furthur reference, you are one of the only dumbasses on this forum. You don't hold a candle in the wind in any argument that I may have with you because quite frankly (not to sound pompous), I know more about everything than you do.

So don't go around telling me that I am a dumbass and a bad moderator, bring out evidence and prove it. I don't need to hear shit from a 13 year old who hasn't hit puberty if he can't bring any proof to show me.

Assassin. . .just to add my own opinion on your modding. . .it's fine in most respects, but the whole red thing is a little much.

If people want to use red, let them.  If you need to mod what they're saying, you can then do so in any other color.  The only point is for it to show up well. . .

Well wtf I have been using Red since I was on a PC. Sighx2.

i'll agree with loud here, ace,  red is a valid color for people to use, if it wasnt, mauti would have reserved it for mods only. hell i use green when i mod peoples posts, because i seem to be the only one who uses it

Everyone uses navy though. And it would be plain disrespectful to use violet.

 Ah, bringing yourself down to insults and age comments eh Sin?  I'm a far better moderator than you are, and than you ever will be. Rather funny how you try and play these power games, then eventually, you realize that no one gives a shit that you're a moderator, and very few people give a shit about you at all. I can take you at RS anyday. And when I recive my copy of Ghost Recon, give me a month or so, and I will be able to take you there as well. I've achieved much more in the RS world than you have.

You really want to know what you did wrong? Here is a brief list of what you did vs what you should've done:

? Continuously deleted a non spam post.

? Locked threads accusing you of doing a bad job of being a moderator.

? Added an editorial comment in the "Ban list".

? Didn't have the brains to let your fellow moderator handle matters, you felt a need to jump into them and complicate things.

As I said, brielf list. I can list off many more. Here is for each one of those, what should've been done.

1.) A post is spam when:

? Just an opinion is givven, with no facts to support it.

? Its obviously not an area that the poster has knowledge, or intrest in.

? A post is one non stop insult.

? The poster has not taken the time to put any effort into his thread through research, spelling/grammar, or length ( post is incomplete ).

? The post is made by *DAMN SilentKiller.

If you want perfect examples of spam, you can look at SK's posts. Also, at times Jeb's posts make perfect examples of posting on things that you don't care about.

Rapid's post fell under none of these, it was in a way, a non stop insult, and perhaps a little bit to far in that way, the type of thing that should have a note on the end of it written in black, "Watch the insults". Here are some examples of posts that were far worse in every way than Rapid's, but wern't deleted:

Quote from KoS Rebel: " Typhy. If jeb is so idiotic then why isnt he banned for life like ur punk ass????? Just answer that then think about stupidity

Rebel Out"

Quote from Grifter: "Yeah, my 11 month old puppy acts more mature then him too... what's your point .  Well, at least the puppy is house trained...."

Quote from Jeb:
" Rapid,
A prime example of why we won't cb you is right here in the forums. YOU TAKE EVERYTHING WAY TO SERIOUSLY. Get a life, and a girl, or a guy, or even a dog. The soul reason that cunt will not cb your clan is because you take this little computer game way to seriously. So you sir can STFU, and take a walk outside."

The reason that these wern't deleted is because of who posted them. Rapid is held at a different standard than anyone else, a moderator deleting his posts because of this is totally unaceptable.

2.) I'm pretty sure that even you can figure out that locking threads accusing you of things is an abuse of your moderator privlages. I've seen so many moderators get removed for this throughout the days... This is the most commen thing that moderators go "Bye bye" for.

3.) The "Ban list" is an official thread, most forums have them, although normaly they are located in a moderators only section. In a thread like that, its your job to come on, say that the person has a warning and get out. If the admin wants help in deciding how long to ban the person for, they can come to you, they don't need your advice right away though. Its their choice, and while this is very minor, the fact that you don't understand that its wrong, is major.

4.) Ace already had matters under controle with deleting a post. When 2 moderators get into somthing like this, it gets complicated. Its your job to see that the other(s) have it under conrole, and to stay out. As with #3, a fairly minor thing, but the fact that you can't see it on your own is major.

 

Can't we have one fucking thread that we don't have to lock for bullshit upon bullshit.