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Title: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Typhy on May 30, 2002, 12:33:08 am
Okay everyone, I want to propose an alternative to the last day of my punishment, Instead of still being suspended on May 31, can I take that day as a day that I can battle, and take my suspention for another Month starting on June 1st 'til July 1st? Basically, I am offering to trade 1 day of my suspention for 1 Month more. Please? Sin? ultimo? Bondo? Mauti?

-Typhy


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on May 30, 2002, 02:15:26 am
Lol Typhy,

no you can play again when the new season starts(1st june) I know you would like to play but thats your fault but hint hint - you can take the time of Japan for playing so you have almost won 24 hours depends where you live Typhy, hehe. May that can help you  ;)

Mauti


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Typhy's other computer on May 30, 2002, 10:54:00 am
Thanks for letting me take the time of Japan, I am in Juneau Alaska, so that will get me a lot of time. See, for the last Month my family has been planning our vacation to Europe, my stupid brother told us the wong departure time, we all thought that we leave on Sunday at 5:00 AM, Instead we really leave on Saturday at 5:00 AM.  However with that time there on Japan time, I should get the time for a battle.

Thanks Mauti,
Typhy


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on May 30, 2002, 01:23:13 pm
Yeah Typhy, that gives you from what, 7am on Friday morning until 5am on Saturday...

Only one more problem for you to get past... getting someone else to CB on that day, since most of them will think it's the day before the BL starts.  

But props to Mauit for giving you the chance.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Lazy Typhy on May 30, 2002, 02:56:46 pm
Yes, thank you to mauti. I am sure that we will find someone to battle. Again though, thanks Mauti.


Title: Typhy, we'll CB SECT!
Post by: AK_Rap1d on May 30, 2002, 04:18:37 pm
Yeah, someone like SECT ;)


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on May 30, 2002, 06:01:06 pm
Don't tease me now... If I find you and four other AK's on this weekend and you turn me down it aint gonna be nice... ?Like I said, I've been asking for a CB since SECT started up...

One side note... if you want to see me there, you'll have to wait until after midnight or so.. since, as I posted yesterday, I'll be down at Joe Lewis Arena for the Wings game tomorrow night.  And before you talk any smack... note that you are trying to squeeze this in while Typhy is still in town and I'm not bitching about that.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Typhy on May 30, 2002, 08:07:47 pm
Grifter, I pick up a T1 line in Boston, perhaps I can battle you from there.

-Typhy


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on May 30, 2002, 09:59:11 pm
You know me Typhy... If I'm around, I'm up for the CB.  


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on May 31, 2002, 11:43:53 pm
Well, I was there for a while... even left a couple messages for Typhy in the game room he opened....  No sign of Rapid and no word from Typhy... oh well.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on June 01, 2002, 12:51:58 am
Ah yes, back to the old tricks I see... I've been looking for Rapid on GR since 11pm... it's now 1am... Cow and I are both calling it a night....  

The only AK on that is a BIG AK (not the little ak) is Monk, and he's idle and not answering my PM's....

Same old same old.  I figured at least Typhy would show, him looking so forward to this.



Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: NiXon / ViRuS on June 01, 2002, 10:30:58 am
SECT vs AK like Germany vs Saudia Arabia 8-0 in the WM


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on June 01, 2002, 12:02:13 pm
Nah... Saudi Arabia shows up.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 01, 2002, 01:47:07 pm
If I were the coach of Germany, I would have tried to keep the score closer, these Middle Eastern countries are scary, don't want to humiliate them.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 01, 2002, 02:43:33 pm
yea, next thing you know, the pull the plug on oil, or they buy a russian nuke on the black market, and start making their own
btw, is this india pakistan thing scaring anyone else?


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 01, 2002, 05:05:58 pm
No, it would appear to be isolated to those countries so the all nuclear war would do there is help the overpopulation situation.  It wouldn't really have the global implications of the USA vs. USSR crisis had.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 01, 2002, 07:19:59 pm
2 words bondo
nuclear fallout

oh wait, it will have to go over the rockies first to get to me.
bondo, give us all a heads up on when it is comming


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 01, 2002, 07:26:24 pm
Brain, what do I care about Nuclear fallout, didn't I say cut down on overpopulation?  My semi-serious political view (being an environmentalist) is Cyanide Socialism.  Humans are stupid creatures that just ruin the place.  If any of you have read Rainbow Six, I'd be one of the people on the "bad" side.  Typical American novel viewing these people who are planning on killing pretty much every human being "bad" people.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 01, 2002, 09:06:27 pm
ok bondo, i accept your pollitical view
here is mine
I DONT WANT TO FUCKING DIE YET
i'm still young, and i want to have a life
i agree that we are slowly killing our planed, and you can bet your ass that i am going to vote for anybody who promises environmental reform, if they dont work for it, there out
yes, we need to do something about the overpopulation issue. nukes are not the answer
now daisy cutters on the other hand....


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Grifter on June 01, 2002, 10:58:25 pm
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Typical American novel viewing these people who are planning on killing pretty much every human being "bad" people.

Yeah Bondo, mass murder does kinda fall on the "bad" side of things...  I mean, if you can mass murder people, then you can mass murder anything (including the planet as a whole).  Being a card carrying tree hugging hippie freak I find that a bit offensive.  After all, environmentalists love life... in all it's forms.  Death is part of the cycle, but only when you get into talking about carrying capacity, and the planet isn't anywhere close to it.  Yes, humans are stupid, while people starve in some countries we burn excess crops and pay farmers not to produce here...  And while I hate what GREED does to our environment, matching evil with more evil is no solution.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on June 01, 2002, 11:19:05 pm
you fools, the States would not feel any fallout...Eastern Europe might experience a little. The Nuclear weapons of the Indians and the Pakistanis are rather weak in comparison to the Fission and Fusion bombs of the Russians and the Americans.

Hopefully one of the nukes hits Osama wherever he is in Pakistan.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 01, 2002, 11:47:16 pm
Well, if it makes it any better Grifter, I would want to die with the rest.  And I wasn't actually serious about the nuke thing, if we were to have everyone die from nuclear war, the environment would get screwed.  I'm more in favor of my Cyanide Socialism thing.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 02, 2002, 12:59:38 am
osama geting toasted is the only good thing i can se coming out of a nuke war down there(of course, chances are that we would never ID the body)

actually, china (and australia too)would be most screwed by the fallout, sucks to be them


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: theN00b on June 02, 2002, 01:47:27 am
You guys are protected by two seas. I am still a college student in America, but you are forgetting about my home country. The Pakistani-Indian thing scares me alot. First off, our nice freindly uncorrupted neibour to the south, CHINA! China supplies Pakistan with Nuclear techonolgy and military aid. 300,000 Chinese troops are stationed in Pakistan. India, Russia's ally. We supply them with awesome jets and technolgy. Wart breaks out fallout will reach Russia. A possibillity China will attack Russia. And then it is worse off. Many people are scared about this. And No Russia will not hesitate to launch Nuclear Weapons at China. China will invade Siberia. No Cossack is not being paranoid. Then the U.S. will be involved in protecting its claims in Central Asia. (OIL CLAIMS) You will try to controll Central Asia and make it part of your sphere of Influence. Well it is also Russia's sphere of influence. Central Asia is a dangerous area and a very influential area too. Nuclear fallout will not reach U.S. It may surround a U.S. Army ?in fallout and your government will continue the draft. Remeber the World is ?small place. We are all interconnected even more because of globilzation. We lose oil, our cars will not operate. Power will rely on alternitive sources so we can pay RS. ?Lets not forget of the massive refugee situation already at hand that would be made tons more worse. Imagine 250 million refugees in the area. Who will take them? China has enough to handle with its own population,, Arab states barely have enough water. Europe has no space. U.S. cannot make enough homes, and Farsi and Punjabi would be our secondary language. So as you can see, we are screwed economically socially. And this my freinds is the sort of thing that starts World Wars. A war of West vs East. I envision the sides being Russia, Europe, India, vs China Pakistan, the Muslim World. U.S. would be too scared to go into this war at first (massive demonstations, political unrest, possible coups) but would eventually be dragged in on the West's side. Millions of our people would be lost. City will be Nuked. U.S. cities will disintigrate. And there will be no marshall plan. America's seas will not protect it from terrorists with small nukes. Put an Iraqi in a sombrero and I bet you cannot find the difference between him and a Mexican. And get this.The world would be in tatters. And no, I am not being paranoid. As history has taught us, alliances are evil. An example is WWI and WWII. They drag many countries into very large Wars. China is getting allied with the Arabs. And then, there is NATO. This time it will be a true World War with every area a major disastor area. (an exception with South America they are always neutral) And remeber what Gorbechev said,"There are no neutral nations in Nuclear War."


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 02, 2002, 12:19:43 pm
sorry for forgetting russia, i'm not to familiar with the course of the jet stream in that area of the world
(i will have a better response later, i have to go now)


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: theN00b on June 02, 2002, 04:09:43 pm
I did not say that you had a bad response. If you read my last post you will see that it was mostly about how U.S. and the world would be affected besides nuclear fallout. And in all likleyhood, U.S. will experience some fallout. My uncle is in the Russian equivilent of the Joint Cheif of Staff (defence ministry). He told me that both nations have around 100 Nagasaki sized bombs. This information is not classified and is widley known. Maybe I should ask my uncle about top secret stuff :)


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 02, 2002, 04:56:56 pm
yea, but then he'd have to kill you ;)

lets see here, 100 nagasaki sized bombs....
yea, youre right ?the whole world would be pretty muched fucked over by fallout
are the swiss in nato? if they arent, then they would still technicaly be neutral, but irradiated none the less


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 02, 2002, 05:26:45 pm
The least we could do is give everyone in the world a cyanide tablet to take in case of the nuclear fallout.  *Sees his Cyanide Socialism becoming a reality* in Mr. Burns voice, "Excellent".


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: jn.wrath on June 02, 2002, 07:12:23 pm
Grifter you triple posting bastard.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 02, 2002, 08:01:22 pm
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The least we could do is give everyone in the world a cyanide tablet to take in case of the nuclear fallout. ?*Sees his Cyanide Socialism becoming a reality* in Mr. Burns voice, "Excellent".

yea bondo, that wont cost a couple hundred trilion dollars
were you gonna pay for that, or were you thinking a tax increase?


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 02, 2002, 09:49:01 pm
Economies of scale my good man, you get 6 billion orders for that and the per tablet cost is going to go way way down.  Bill Gates could afford it.  Not that money would be important or anything seeing as after this expense there would be no need for money.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 02, 2002, 11:29:10 pm
ok, you have the funding(in theory, i highly doubt gates would fund you if this came to pass)
how are you going to make all these tablets anyway(or get them made)?
then you have the whole suicide being wrong issiue with the catholic church(and many other large religons if i remember correctly
and finally distribution, how are you going to get all these tablets  out to everyone?

i say we give 'em abunch of chemical weapons(ones that will stay contained in the countries, and wont spread) or high yeild conventional weapons(think daisy cutters) and let them kill each other, and leave us (the rest of the world) out of this mess...


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: theN00b on June 02, 2002, 11:55:41 pm
I support the use of more daisy-cutters. I wish I could drop a daisy vutter in RS especialy in Underwater habitat or training maze. LoL I would use it in cbs all the time. You would kill yourself but to me, it is all worth it.


Cossak-The Russian New Yorker living in Texas that likes to blow things up.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Bondo on June 02, 2002, 11:57:31 pm
I didn't mean to say Bill Gates would fund it, just that it would be within that price range.  Also, stop it with the rationalization, I'm talking about every human dying, there is not sanity to be found there.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on June 03, 2002, 12:00:27 am
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100 Nagasaki sized bombs.


*sighs* IF you knew jack shit about Nuclear weapons, you would realize that a "Nagasaki size bomb" is the smallest nuclear weapon. The only fallout caused by that bomb was about a 15 mile radius...hell, not even our warships got hit by the fallout in WWII. One or a hundred, it doesnt matter...the U.S. is in the clear. And about the China vs Russia thing, you are on crack...along with the"U.S. sphere of influence." We don't give a flying rats ass about Central Asia except for hunting down Osama. As for the China/Russia war, that woul never start over something as petty as India vs Pakistan.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 03, 2002, 10:36:11 am
*looks at the calculations, shratches head for a moment, then realizes his mistake*
yea, i see your point sin i figurst my estimate on if they had multiple nukes going off in the same area(dont ask why, i just did)
i figured that if the fallout got into the jetstream then it would have become a global problem


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: theN00b on June 04, 2002, 05:05:53 pm
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*sighs* IF you knew jack shit about Nuclear weapons, you would realize that a "Nagasaki size bomb" is the smallest nuclear weapon. The only fallout caused by that bomb was about a 15 mile radius...hell, not even our warships got hit by the fallout in WWII. One or a hundred, it doesnt matter...the U.S. is in the clear. And about the China vs Russia thing, you are on crack...along with the"U.S. sphere of influence." We don't give a flying rats ass about Central Asia except for hunting down Osama. As for the China/Russia war, that woul never start over something as petty as India vs Pakistan.

Sigh If you knew jack-shit about the real world you would know we have GREAT INTREST IN CENTRAL ASIA. Also the Nagasaki sized bombs would be mostly blown up in the Thar Desert on the India Pakistani border. I am not sure if it is called Thar it is something like that. Anyhow it is the radioactive dust from that desert going into the atmosphere that would reach the U.S. We have gotten duststorms from Mongolia w/o a nuclear bomb blast in that area. Also hey have about 40 50 megaton bombs each. I am not saying the U.S. would die from fallout, but it would reach the U.S. in non-fatal doses. Also are you some expert in China-Russia relations. Obviously not. You will see that very recently they have had many border clashes on the Manchurian Border. Russia may back down from supporting India and war could be avoided. Besides the border clashes and the India Pakistan situation, China and Russia still have a good relationship. So why don't you read up on the subject asssasin and find out the effect of where nuclear weapons are detonated. If it is blown up in a forest surrounded by hils, fallout will not go so far. But 20 blasts in the desert I mentioned above that is relativly flat will have larger implications. Also you my freind are on crack. U.S. has big oil amitions in that area. They want to bring in untapped oil reserves from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan to Karachi in Pakistan. Normally it would have to go throuh Russia and in to Europe and then to U.S. The U.S. recievs very little from that area. This move would take away Russia's monoply on the oil in central asia. It would also give the U.S. more oil. Before September 11th we funded the Taliban to make an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. This would not spark a war between the two countries, but serious complications. Assasin you may play Rogue Spear better than me but you have no idea of what is really going on. You probabbly listen to CNN which is mearly propaganda. You base your descisions on your assumptions, not rational facts. You have not studied this area as much as I have, I bet you don't even know where all these countries are. You my freind are ignorant about the whole subject. So read up some more on the history and most importantly the resources of this area. Look at what the Oil compainies say they want to accomplish in their yearly quarterlys, listen to programs other than that from the U.S. and its allies. Go reserch on it and you will see why the U.S. is more interested in this area than just for hunting down Osamma bin Laden. Go think my arrogant freind who is currently blind. And never say I am on crack when I talk about relations and politics in Central Asia, cause you will just be shot down out of the sky!
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Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 04, 2002, 07:28:40 pm
i feel that i must temper your post  cossak, using the fact that you info isn not exactly 100% free from propaganda(from what i understand, the bbc is about as close as it gets to slant free reporting) i mean face it, all reporting has a slant, it is just a matter of  who is reporting

oh yea sin, never argue with someone who has a relative in the government, they have the better facts


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on June 04, 2002, 08:09:33 pm
Brain...my Uncle works in the State Department under Secretary Powell...I have already asked him of his opinion of the possible scenarios created by a war. China vs Russia was not one of them because for starters, China doesn't have enough nuclear weapons to trade blows with the Russians. They both know they were merely kill each other off for nothing...it is kind of like the reason why the Soviets and the Americans didn't end all humanity during the Cold War.

What Cossack refers to is the Chinese desire for natural resources that are abundant along the border. The Chinese view the Russians as weak in that region of East Asia and wouldn't mind taking the resources.

As for the dust storms...true, we ocasionally get hit from dust storms from MONGOLIA (not the India/Pakistan Border) because of an atmospehirc jet stream that is in the Gobi desert (in mongolia, not the India/Pakistan border). Odds are that nothing will hit the U.S.

But there is no point in the continuation of arguing over this point because someone as pig-headed and arrogant as COssack will never back down from his misconceived points. (BTW: Nagasaki is located in a basin next to the Coast)


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 04, 2002, 08:27:07 pm
am i the only one here that doesnt have a relative in the government?


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: KoS Ultimo on June 04, 2002, 08:42:12 pm
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am i the only one here that doesnt have a relative in the government?



Yep, my aunt is Monica Lewinski  ;D


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 04, 2002, 10:16:50 pm
so, ult, i guess that you have 'first hand' knowledge of what happened in the white house... ;D


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: theN00b on June 04, 2002, 11:23:31 pm
Gee, Assasin you are starting to piss me off. I do not expect you to know this, but Nagasaki is rather hilly for a city and the ocean does not have dust. We occaisionally do get dust from the desert by Pakistan and India. There are many jet streams. Although I my have exageratted the Russia-China situtation, I back down on that. I am mearly tring to show you how this situation can spread. Anyhow back on topic. If anything gets above thirty thousand feet it will go a long long way. I am wrong on the China Russia subject. My uncle can be a good story teller, it is none the less true that they have complications. Sorry for being an asshole Asassin. I do not feel like a flame war.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: theN00b on June 04, 2002, 11:32:57 pm
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i feel that i must temper your post ?cossak, using the fact that you info isn not exactly 100% free from propaganda(from what i understand, the bbc is about as close as it gets to slant free reporting) i mean face it, all reporting has a slant, it is just a matter of ?who is reporting

oh yea sin, never argue with someone who has a relative in the government, they have the better facts

Brain I do not use one source of news. I uyse many sources. From Germany to Japan to Chile to India. Draw what they think together and make a rational conclusion off of it. If you get the side of the Israeli's on the palestinian situation you probablly better get the side of Al Jezzera. Or else you have no hope of getting a rational view.


Title: Re: A deal, please acept this
Post by: Brain on June 05, 2002, 09:37:22 am
that is good cossak,all i was saying is that no information is 100%slant free, every reporter puts their own perspecive on the news  using what they say and how they say it, even posture can change how a news story is recieved... that is all i was trying to say

know you seen to  have minimised the slant by getting news from many different sources, good job on your part, on these forums we are lucky if someone simply checks their facts...