*DAMN R6 Forum

Here's a list of meaningless bans (I let it die down... Now, I'll bring it up to support Hazard and psyks and Infect and Bondo, even if it means mine is extended)

I can't say I know typhy's ban well... So I can't say that was meaningless

I was banned to make an example to the B&G peeps.. I was promised I would be allowed back on after it died down... It was quiet for over 3 weeks... Still banned.

Bondo got banned recently for a week... Can anyone actually tell me why?! Bondo just told me... He asked Evill why Hazard was banned... He wasn't cussing or anything... He even defended Hazard in a non-agressive way. (just saying what he told me) He was banned.

Infect was impersonating, got banned for 30 minutes... He went to sleep tried to logon the next day and was banned for a week

Psyks, Infect's brother, was banned... As punishment for being Infects brother :)

Hazard was banned because he is Infect's neighbor... Evill mistakenned him for Infect...

Does anyone else see a problem with at least Psyks and Hazard being banned? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/hm.gif)

Ben

Feck you Evill, I usually defend you but fuck this you're just going too far.

Well, In PC world I  have talked to the creators, developers, and the people that run Gamespy Arcade and I have never seen them talk in an unprofessional manner to a gamer. I am just gonna try to make Evill's life miserable. Emailing him everyday concerning my ban.

I think that everyone agrees that evill has banned people for no reason and that we should do something about it he has gone to far even saying foul language I say the gamers on gameranger fight back and stop these useless bans. Plus some of us dont even no why we were banned.

-Psyks

Well we could try to get some .gae! people together and thought of something. Maybe possibly giving up GR for a month or so and using the macclans chat to exchange ips. It would mean sacrifice and it might not even work but if we could get something organized we could possibly do something.

Hey haz talk to the people at game spy and see if they can make a onther thing like game spy for mac? =) hehe i know they wont but hey it why not give it a shot!

Gamespy for PC isn't really that reliable. Its not that good and there are still bans but they are rare the only thing that is done often is muteing, and my pc dosen't have the internet anymore and I deleted my GSA. I doubt they would even do it anyway.

Hazard I think your right if we could get something going then evill couldnt start banning because he already has a large amount of ppl complaining. If we can get a lot of people to stand up to evill he wont do shit. sure he might ban a few but if there are so many people protesting then he will either drop the bans or try to ignore us but we have to do something.

Conflict won't solve anything. We are better off avoiding him, people are too afraid to be banned to do anything.

To clarify on my ban all I said were the following phrases...

"Evill, wtf...so you are now banning people for asking you to check your e-mail?"
"Hazard didn't break any rules"
"He didn't impersonate, he didn't spam, he didn't do anything"
And then in response when someone said "you'd shut your mouth if you knew what was good for you"
I said "Or what, I'll be banned?"
And then Evill said "you are pushing it" and then he banned me for 6 days.? This is all the dialog I had...I'm not leaving anything out...this is all I said...and I was banned.? Even the most ardent Evill sympathizer can't stand up for his decision there...I was well mannered and just asked a simple question and provided my defense...yet I got a SIX day ban.

Well, if any of you had the balls to do it, and I think that most of you do not, you would not go on Gameranger to protest and just hang around macclans chat app. By logging on to GR everyday, you are sending Evill the message that you still are going to use his service at any cost. By putting ".gae!" after your names only makes you look retarded and it doesn't prove anything.

But of course any attempt by most of you to lash out at Evill would fail due to your sheer childishness and for some, stupididty. The only way you could get aynthing to work is if you got a large population of GR users to conduct in the same manner as you and leave GR, but of course that will not happen. You have a better chance of shutting your flaps and ignoring Evill than trying to pick a bone with him because unless you can do what I said above successfully, you will FAIL miserably like Bondo's CU defense trying to stop the USC offense.

Ia m not intending to bash anyone here, but I want you people to open your eyes and either coordinate a course of action or just ignore him completely.

I already said I'm trying to get more people to just use mac clans for a while.

Well I was talking to Evill a little while after Bondo's ban, and I had asked him why Bondo was banned. He told me (I forget his exact words) that Bondo thought he was on some sort of GameRanger committee. Apparently what Evill is most sick of is the people fighting back. Back in the day, people get banned for a half hour, no one cared, it died down, all was set and done. People got banned for a week, it was "I messed up, so I guess I'll see you all in a week." People got banned for life, it was "Yah I called Evill's mom a whore in a dumpster and I wanted to get banned."

Don't you guys see? Every time you get banned and post it on this forum, asking for help from everyone, it only gives Evill more incentive to fight back against the rebellion. And he knows it's so easy for him, and so hard for all of us. Try to brush off bans. If you get banned, USUALLY you did something wrong. If you didn't, just relax. You'll be back before you know it ? IF YOU SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!! If you get perma'd for nothing, then you're probably just thick headed, because Evill doesn't perma ban people for nothing. He needs people using his product. When more people use his product, more companies want to advertise on his product. The more companies that advertise on Evill's product, the more money Evill gets. So you see, the last thing Evill wants to do is just toss people out of GameRanger, though when the rules are being broken in any way, it's a good exchange for Evill to sacrifice one person if it means keeping 10 others happy and continuing their use of his product.

So you see, the sooner we all stop complaining about bans, the sooner the bans will lessen.

Bull Shit lets make some conflict Evill -> ::) <- Me Lets get this going its fuckeD up he is banning for fucking pleaser and we need to do something!!!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/soon.gif)    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/uzi.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/uzi.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/uzi.gif)

I partially agree with Ace that is why I try to stay a lot more shut up and I let the rest of you extremely complain because Evill told me it does no good.  I'm not going to make big threads about this anymore, it seems every time I get all of us banned 5 threads are made about it.  We can be angry, I know I am, but I try to shut up a little more now, maybe Kevill will have a little more respect for us then.  A recent example of this would be the problems with the IRSL battle with ICT, I didn't post or complain, I didn't want to post at all, I went as far as I was pushed, all I did was edit a post to add myh reply, just try to calm down a little guys with making all of these threads.

Where did Ace post? I am curious to see his reaction to this bs. As for just shutting up...that wont do you much good since you have already put .gae behind your name. I am sure in Kevill's eyes that means you follow the group and essentially agree with the others who carry that tag at the end of their names. Putting .gae is your own form of protest, whether you intend it to be or not.

Thing is, I had shut up and not said anything for a few weeks.  Then I ask why Hazard was banned and I suddenly find myself banned.  Shuting up doesn't help, Evill is an unforgiving ass...he holds grudges and won't ever forget.  He also can't stand to be told that he is wrong and so he bans for that.

Wow people agree with me before I post. I rule!

Assassin pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. GR is a FREE service Evill provides to all of us. He could permaban me for no reason whatsoever and I would have no room to complain. Would it be a dick move? Yes. Is it still 100% within his rights? Yes. I know if I were in Evill's situation I would have a quick trigger finger. Look at the amount of idiocy he must put up with daily. I forget who said it, but I think the best quote ever with regards to GR was, "If idiots could fly, GR would be an airport." So what if you can't play on GR for a week? Big freakin deal. If it is really such an important issue to you, do something about it already! Like Assassin said, the minute you log back into GR you are admitting that Evill provides such a good service that you are willing to put up with perceived injustices. So the way I see it, there are a few options. You can behave like the majority of us do and NEVER have any problems with bans, you can give up GR cold turkey and have your "freedom," or you can act immature and whine about it. If you choose the last option, it is a waste of time to even be talking to you.

So, I get perma'd... No logical reason given... And I'm not supposed to complain or try to get back on? What then, Assassin, should I do?

Ben

I'm Ace. What should you do? Frankly, I don't believe this situation would ever occur; I was using it hypothetically. If it were to occur, you would have to find an alternative. Ultimately GR is a service Evill provides and he can provide it to whomever he wishes.

BTW, I'm sure in the ToS you agreed that Evill can stop allowing you on GR anytime he wishes. So if you have logged onto GR, you have given up all rights regarding bans basically.

For once, I agree with the peeps who kiss Evill's ass. Gr is a great application no matter which way you look at it. We all might disagree with the administrating, being banned for senceless reasons... I doubt Evill has the time or patience to go through each of our cases one by one though. I mean 4 people were banned that we know about in one day. It probably becomes too much to handle... I don't know about the whole Bondo ban, who was trying to defend hazard with a logical case, but honestly, if I were Evill I would have probably had it by now...

But frankly, you all love it. Psyks asked me today "How do you you do it? How have you stayed away from gameranger so long" (or something of the like) today... All you peoples would miss gameranger horribly, as I do...

The best advice I can offer: Stay out of Evills way... He comes into the Bar & Grill, keep your mouth shut or leave the room.  I made the mistake of actually talking to him when he came into the Bar and Grill... Maybe thats why I got banned...

Ben

Bondo, i watched as you got banned, and yes people everything that he has stated is true.  I stood up for your banning, after you got it, and talked to him for a while of why most of the bans come from the RS R6 community, and he said, and I quote "They come from there because thats where most of the fucktards are." So i proceded to argue for a while without recieving a ban myself (which suprised me).  So you can see that evill holds a grudge against the RS and R6 community, whether you kiss his ass or not, but at the same time he realizes that his empire entirely consists of, and was built by, R6 and RS players.  I myself, have no respect for evill anymore, and a ban would be like lifting a big weigt off my shoulders, so bring it on.  Fear not, Run not, your fate is determined by actions, not by some fuck at a keyboard.

Alias

first of all, gr wouldnt just be an airport, it'd be o'hare, lax, and jkf international, combined
second of all havent you ever heard the phrase 'give a little to get a little'? try showing evill a little respect, and maybe he might  devote more brain cells than it takes to push the ban button at you. if i had to deal with idiots all day i know i'd be touchy.(hell i get touchy just moderating here sometimes)

you seem to think that just because you play rs, evill owes you more. if evil owes anyone anthing, it would be mauti and the rest of the original r6 crowd, because they were the people who got gr moving. also if you're smart you'll notice that those people generally tend to be the ones who treat evill with respect (or atleast more respect than the majority of you show him), now do you think it's a concidence that you never hear about mauti being banned? or how about sin and ace, when's the last time they were banned? hell the only time i was banned was because i did something real stupid(it was before i was really into the whole online gaming thing)

so, in short, the previos poster summed it up pretty well, if evill shows up, either shut up or get out, if you cant do that try treating him with more respect than a stray dog who just pissed on your leg. who knows, you may just get a conversation out of him, instaid of a week long ban

Alias, I so wub you right now...I don't care if Ben, Wombat, and Hazard know it ;)

Wow... He used me as an example.... I'm so touched...

It really is odd though. When I was banned, at, I don't know, 3 am, in MacClans, myself ejo and cybershark and evill were hanging out... And myself and Evill were actually somewhat getting along. I mean, I remember I made a joke and he said "Heh"... And then I was correcting people's spellings, and he joined me... It was quite an experience when we talked to eachother... He's not that bad...

So just a note to everyone

Evill: It would be nice if you gave a reason to why you are banning, or maybe gave less a less drastic punishment.

Peoples: It would be nice to respect Evill just a tad bit. He created this application, and without it, you would never have met, or played these games...

Bondo: I wub my al too!!!

Al, I wub you!!!

Ben

Doesn't bondo also have a history of bothering evill about fairness of banns, not to mention the whole "evill" clan thing. I do think that a week is a bit long for just asking. i got a week for idling once, and i'm not soar over the issue, i just don't try to get banned.

Ok brian, you are obviously missing the BIG picture.  Being a senior member of GR i can state some of the things that you might be, or have missed.  Evill used to play lots of games with us, i remember them, back in the day when r6 and gr first met.  But since RS came out, there have been some bad seeds (not you ben, or the recent bans), and those bad seeds has turned the entire gr community against us.  Personally i dont give a fuck about the contrust chatting assfucks, but one thing that chaps my ass is how evill has turned his opinion against us without real justification.  THAT is why i am pissed at him, he doesnt give respect to us, though i give it to him, which is one thing i should stop.  I always respect other R6 RS users, and Evill, but recently, with the bannings of ben and bondo, and others, his level of credibility is falling faster than my stocks.  Power corrupts even the smallest and insignificant of men.

Alias

dude i know that sometimes he bans people for really no reason but wtf

your all saying lets stand up!

wtf are you gona do?? protest outside the server? i dont think so

obviously you cant really do anything other than make his  amount of users down and i dont think any1 would do that just to make somepeople get unbanned so you obviously cant do shit

sorry guys but we really cant do crap

-SK

Guys. The reason he has a "grudge" against the RS/R6 community is because he reads the *DAMN boards occassionally(or maybe all of the time), and sees everyone talking shit about him. So they way I see it, just leave him be, and it'll be all good. Maybe there can be a filter that won't let you use the word Evill or something in a post, to cut down on the bashing. Just a suggestion...Maybe he'll start unbanning people once we start maturing. This fighting back bullshit won't work, it'll just cause more bans, and piss Evill off even more. I stay out of trouble by treating everyone(or almost everyone) with equal respect, and trying to avoid talking on GR. I mostly just come on GR to play now, so I can't do anything to get myself into trouble. So let's all just mellow out, be friends, and show Evill some respect. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

Benzo, as you already know, Evill reads these forums, which means everytime you post about bannings, he sees that you're not letting it die down. Maybe you should just stop keeping it alive by talking about it, then Evill might unban you. Just a suggestion.

From,
Wubber Bronto

Well because I would rather not be lumped in with the RS crowd that seems to be getting most of the bannings, I would like to clarify that the R6 crowd, especially the "old schoolers" for the large part have never had problems with Evill. How many SEALs, SiX, POD, etc. did you ever see get permabanned? None by my recollection. I think this is representative of how the R6 players generally had some respect or at least gratitude for the service Evill provides.

Ace, HAD is the key word there.  I did have respect for Evill and the service he offered back before he started banning people  for no real reason.  Ben, Alias, and I are all old-school R6ers and have all in this thread have shown displeasure with Evill.

Bronto, Ben had let it die down for three weeks...even in the forums so it was becoming obvious that Evill had no intention of unbanning him.

Bondo, besides Alias possibly none of you guys are really old school R6'ers. All the old schoolers I know still do have respect for Evill and that respect is reciprocal I believe. The only reason I say "had" is because we aren't on as much anymore. I was on and even asked Evill about Ben's ban the other day. Hell, you could even say I pestered him. Did I get banned? No, because I'm not a dick about it. Regardless of what you think about Evill's banning practices, you should still show some gratitude for him providing GR.

yah these assey new RS players

sheesh

-SK

Ace, what fucked up system are you using that I am not old-school...did I need to be on BEFORE R6 was released to be considered that?

As for me valuing GR...I use it less and less nowadays so the fact that it is there to use for playing isn't much of a value to me.  What I use it for is chat...and it is doing a piss poor job of being a chat application when those I like to chat with are being banned.  For those that still play, maybe Evill is providing a valuable service, but for me he just happens to be providing one of a number...just one that has a bit more activity.

Bronto,
   He said I would be unbanned when MY BAN died down... I didn't even mention my ban till now... This post was solely for Bondo INfect Hazard and Psyks...

I dunno if I'm "old school"... I'm 2 years though. I was around when POD and BONE and SKULL and RAIN were....  Granted, I was a crappy noob. Why'd you have to bring them times up? Brings back memories of Rumrunner :(... What happenned to him... :(

Ben

Ace, Bondo is definitely a old skooler.  That being said, I have respect for Evill's service, not for his abitrary abuse of it.  I understand how much work goes into all that stuff, so i respect the effort.  Whenever i talk to evill about stuff i always do it respectively because he gives it back, i dont htink bondo or ben should have been banned, but i agree with Ace on one part, ben, i think you should let it go for a while, because evill DOES read this, and i probably just reminds him every time he reads it.  I say, drop the banning threads and I will try to talk to him about un banning.

Alias

Psyks' ban wasn't an attack on psyks himself. Evill, at least i hope, only banned infect and it is a unforseen consequence that psyks is also banned. Not nessesarily a purposeful ban of psyks and infect just a nessesary consequence. Hazards ban has been lifted from what i know so that is no longer a problem. As for the others i can't cover because i have to leave right now and will not return for 2 days. So, cyaz. ;D