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Anyone here a Basekettball fan? I need someone to brag over when my San Antonio Spurs own the Lakers.  

Yea they will  own them like last year

4-0 for LA lol ;D

I hope the Mav. will make it over the Kings!

GL Typhy for your Spurs

Mavs have an okay shot if they can stop the fast breaks of the Kings.

Basketball... it's Stanly Cup time!

So unless the Red Wings are playing, It doesn't matter.  Actually, the Pistons are doing much better then I would have ever thought... but it's not like they really have a shot.

who cares about the pistons?
too bad the bucks didnt make the playoffs (of course that is kind of hard to do when you are hurt all year)

Sorry Grifter, But if the Wings get up against the Avalanch they have no chance.

As for Game 1 of the San antonio vs L.A, that was just unlucky.

Only thing unlucky about Spurs vs Lakers was that L.A. didn't destroy the Spurs...both Shaq and Kobe went down with injuries and sat substantial time.

Lakers in 5.

Yes, thats true, that was unlucky also, However what is starting to annoy me is that everyone is saying "Oh, LA played so bad this was San antonio's big chance" Well, we had a bad day also, We just played slightly worse.

Spurs in 6.

The Av's??  The same Av's that got taken to 7 games by LA??

I thought you didn't smoke weed Typhy... now's not the time to start.

Yeah, the Avs do blow ass. Game 2 was just a fluke. The Sharks are gonna win at the tank tonight and that's gonna be the end of the Avs. In the conference finals, the Sharks are just going to beat those geriatrics from Detroit into submission.

Funny, I didn't think a CBA team could make the NBA playoffs anyway....  What?  The Bucks are in the NBA?..... HAHAHAHAH..  I saw them play and thought it was a interleague game with the CBA.... then again, I've seen better CBA teams....

You people that seem to talk about how Shaq and Kobe were hurt what about Duncan-soon to be announced league mvp and David Robinson not playing?

I wanted the old Jazz to win anyway to I could lmao at the "number one" Kings.  The new exciting teams would be the Celtics and Nets.

Need I say anymore? Spurs suck.

And the prize goes to ..........Psyco!!!!  The Lakers are coming out of the west...they can handle the Kings and the Nets will come out of the East..although I can't wait to watch them play the celtics...just gonna be fun to watch such cool players.

Cough, excuse me Ace.  I think the Avs just showed the Sharks who is boss.  All the Red Wings had to do was beat the Canucks and the Blues both of which are worse than the Kings or the Sharks (the Kings were only 7 because of a bad start, they are a better team than the blues).  So I'd say the Avs played the third and fourth best teams in the playoffs and now get to play the second  ;).

Actually though, I won't make a prediction about the Wings vs. Avs, all I really know is that the winner of that series will be lifting a cup (unless they knock each other too silly to play in the finals).

Lakers going for the 3PEAT! ? ?WOOOT! ? ? ? ? ?WOOT! ? ? ? ? ?WOOOT! ? ? ? ? ? WOOOT! ? ? ? ?WOOOT!


TOLD YOU BEFORE, TELL YOU AGAIN, ?LAKERS OWN ALL TEAMS!

wow, tried to do it in a diff browser since my IE couldn't do it, and it surely didn't work out... ?Oh well...

LAKERS #1 ?WOOT! ?WOOT! ? WOOOOT!!! ?3PEAT HERE WE COME!!!

HAHAHA Sucker typhy You Owe me 5 dollars now
;D ;D You were right about it ending in 5 just the wrong team $5  Hahahaha

True Bondo, but when you are the best team in the NHL.. you get that easier playoff schedule.. no?  Isn't that what wining the President's Cup was all about?  

The Wings will wrap up the Av's in 6 at the outside, I'm betting 5 in the pool....  Then I'm looking for a Detroit v Toronto finals.... go see all the games live..

Lets go red winds ::)BOOM! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?BOOM! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? BOOM!
they were my favorite team since i was born. ?now they got hull, yezerman is a veteran for them, they going alllllllllllll the WAY! :o :) ;) :D ;D 8)GGGGOOOOOO REEEEED WINGS!

Go Wizards! oh. oops.

Go Caps! oh. crap.

Go Terps! yay. at least we have one kick-ass team in Maryland. ;)

 Maryland..haha those peices of crap lucked out when Duke lost to Indiana by pure luck. ?Don't start a fight about Duke...believe me you will lose. :)

Duke didn't win the ACC, Maryland did.  Duke didn't win the NCAA, Maryland did.

Bondo don't kid around..Duke had the best team in the nation as usual and it was by pure misfortune and luck they lost. ?They won the ACC tournament also.  If my gay brother PsYks didn't want to go on so badly I would go on about how great Duke was and always is.  I can give every reason possible so don't pick a fight with this trust me :)

Hate to break it to you, but duke is losing their three best players to the NBA draft - Williams, Dunleavy, and Boozer. Next year they are going to blow about as much as Carolina did this year.

Besides, Oklahoma and Kansas were both better than Duke this year.  Maybe Missouri as well.  Roll on Big XII.

great questions on basketball
why are there 11 teams in the big 10?

Because Northwestern filed a law suit against the Bit10 to keep from getting kicked out.

ahhhhh bastarrdss duke is the best they are getting mcdonalds all americans and how bout daniel ewing eh?  im gonna give you guys a big post about this later

What about Daniel Ewing?  Better question, Who is Daniel Ewing?  And if you say he is a relative of Patrick I'm going to laugh and I won't stop for quite a while.  Patrick Ewing may be the most overrated player in NBA history.  He doesn't have talent, he never was a player that could carry his team on his back.  He is in no way a superstar athelete, just a big guy who occasionally scored or rebounded.

 LoL Bondo nah he's there new sensational freshman point guard. ?He took them over when they were having trouble against Notre Dame and he's going to be amazing this year with all of the new talent they are getting. ?Also Dunleavy may not leave yet.

Break up Duke. Yeah, you heard me -- Duke. What, the Blue Devils aren't an unregulated monopoly? Who has ever stopped them? Every year the NCAA holds a basketball tournament, every year Duke is just about the last one standing.
-I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
Oh, Kansas, Maryland and Cincinnati are more fearsome at the moment? Hah! The Blue Devils are the best team in the nation. They always are.
-(Can you believe Duke entered the ACC Tournament as an underdog? Sheesh! The starting five is Jason Williams, Chris Duhon, Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunleavy and Dahntay Jones. That's a better ensemble than 'Friends.' Smarter, too.)
-Duke has made nine Final Four appearances in the last 16 years. Since 1986, 49 of 53 players who have completed four years of eligibility at Duke have played in at least one NCAA championship game.
-Heck, after last season's national title, Duke lost the national player of the year, Shane Battier -- and got better!
-This is an unchecked monolith, my good people. And the problem is getting more pronounced.
-Remember that improbable period in which Duke made it to five consecutive Final Fours from 1988-92? Duke's record in that span was 151-33. Well, over the past five seasons, Duke's record is 162-18.
-So it's time to break up the Dukies.
-I've got plenty of evidence -- some of it documented, some of it undocumented -- to prove that the venerable Durham, N.C., institution has too many unfair advantages. Take a look:
-The academic standards at Duke are too high.
-Much is made of Division I schools that allow academically marginal athletes into their basketball and football programs -- people perceive this as unfair relative to universities that don't allow those type of questionable admissions.
-As usual, folks have this backwards.
-Because of Duke's unbending academic standards, only the smartest kids go there -- that's -- the unfair advantage. If all your scholarship student-athletes are clear-thinking and level-headed, you're way ahead of your opponent at tipoff.
-Like the N.Y. Yankees, Duke has too much money.
-In the endless squawking about baseball's big market-small market divide, we are told how the Yankees with their $100 million-plus payroll have an insurmountable edge over, say, the Minnesota Twins with their $25 million payroll.
-Well, how about Duke vs. Winthrop?
-Or even Duke vs. Maryland.
-As a University of Maryland I know that many of them struggle professionally in low-paying positions -- heck, I know people that have been unemployed nearly half of their adult life -- and cannot afford to contribute mightily to the Terrapins' athletic program.
-Meanwhile, Duke graduates are the captains of industry. They are investment bankers, heart surgeons, movie producers, tobacco executives, robber barons. They sign blank checks to back their Blue Devil loyalties, and those blank checks turn into 6-foot-8 power forwards who can fill the lane on a fast break.
-The rich get richer, and the rest of us hope for a No. 3 seed in the Midwest Region.
-Duke plays most of its postseason close to home.
-For starters, the ACC Tournament seems like it's always held somewhere in North Carolina. Like Lefty Driesell was ever going to get a break from the officials in Charlotte or Greensboro.
-For finishers, they also always seem to play an NCAA sub-regional somewhere in North Carolina. It's bad enough that schools like Duke and North Carolina are usually better than the rest; it's worse they essentially get home-court advantage in the playoffs. Heck, St. Cloud State could win a national title if the Road to the Final Four were through its own driveway!

-Duke is nothing more than a dressed-up NBA factory.
-Student-athletes, my butt. Then why does the campus library at Duke have the biggest Pop-a-Shot concession in America?
-Every time I look up, Duke is sending Tommy Amaker or Danny Ferry or Christian Laettner or Bobby Hurley or Grant Hill or Elton Brand or Shane Battier or Jason Williams to the NBA.
-In Coach Mike Krzyzewski's 22 years at Duke, he has produced 29 players for the NBA Draft, including 14 first-round selections and nine lottery picks.
-Coach K cheats.
-We all know about Mike Krzyzewski's stellar Duke tenure -- a 562-164 record, second all-time in NCAA Tournament victories (56), three national championships in the last 10 years. And, sure, Duke is clean with the NCAA -- no violations, no probations, no suspicions.
-Like Coach K doesn't break the rules now and again?
-You think he's never jaywalked?
-You think he's never spit in public?
-You think he's never gone 33 mph in a 25-mph zone?
-I've been compiling evidence of all these crimes and misdemeanors for years. Enforcement officials just have to call me and I'll turn over everything I've got.
-Besides, I don't trust anyone who sits down for interviews with Charlie Rose.
-Duke gets all the calls.
-Duke players don't get into foul trouble, they get into fellowship programs.
-You know it, I know it, they know it -- no matter where the game is played, all the calls go Duke's way.
-It's like the old Boston Celtics dynasty of the 1960s. What, Mendy Rudolph was going to whistle a three-second violation on Bill Russell in Game 7 at Boston Garden?
-I've had it with the Duke student body.
-The so-called "Cameron Crazies"are spoiled, arrogant topsiders, just a phone call away from Daddy's money.
-They're always chanting fancy stuff out, sometimes in Latin. (Remember, at Maryland, most major in vending machines, and don't appreciate feeling anything stupider than they already are.) Well, I can chant stuff out, too:
-Phooey!
-My friends, the tyranny of Duke must end.
-The Blue Devils just won an unprecedented fourth straight ACC Tournament championship. They made their first nine field goal attempts in beating Wake Forest in the semifinal and then defeated NC State by 30 points in the title game. Boozer has made 76 of his last 91 shots.
-Sure, you say, Boozer and Williams are leaving after this season, but I don't trust this Daniel Ewing -- he already looks sensational.
-Plus Coach K isn't going anywhere.
-He should've been fired when he had back-to-back 10-17 and 11-17 seasons in the early 1980s, but he was spared. Then a bad back sidelined him for most of the 1994-95 season, but doctors came to his rescue. Of late, he has had an ailing hip, but, again, doctors are going to replace it.
-So, as you can see, Duke has the financial, officiating and medical communities behind it. It's a foregone conclusion the Blue Devils make another Final Four; it's also a foregone conclusion I'm going to make a phone call or two to ensure this is the final time it happens.

haha a little   [sarcasm]   to talk about who they really are and always will be.  

 As you can see I am a die hard Duke Blue Devils fan and become angry if you make fun of them.  You should have seen me when Jason Williams missed that fould shot. *sigh*

Sorry for the long posts I find them interesting and funny if you wish to just delete them.

Are you sure that you aren't Dick Vitale in disguise?

Well, if you were THAT great of a Duke fan, you would know that the name is now Jay Williams, not Jason.

LoL Assassin...and i did know that I just didn't find it necessary to put. ?Jason Williams changed his name to Jay Williams in order to keep from being confused with Grizzlies shitty point guard Jason Williams and former Nets center/murderer Jayson Williams. :)

Nah... Dickey V is a UofD fan, not Duke... I remember when Dickey V coached the University of Detroit, and even his brief stint as the head coach for the Pistons...  Dickey is the man.

BTW, Infection... only Bander and I are allowed to be that long winded.  

If Duke is always the best, how come they've only won 2 championships in the last 12 years.

Infection, you?re 14. You know nothing about college basketball. No, I?m not judging that based on your age, but rather, your posts. I?m also going to guess that since you live in New York and are way too young to go to college (and your posts indicate you?re too dumb to get into Duke) that you are another fair weather fan.

Duke has a great basketball program, there?s no doubt about that. Duke is a good school. No doubt about that. Krzyzewski is one of the greatest college coaches of all time.

Even so, you sound like just another gear in the Duke hype machine.

First of all, Maryland won the ACC regular season. Not Duke. Maryland and Duke played each other twice this year, and they split the wins. However, Duke lost to FSU and Virginia. Two very mediocre teams by ACC standards.

Secondly, have no grand illusions about Duke?s ?rigorous? academic standards for athletes. Nearly every player on the team is majoring in Psychology a 90 hour credit course. For public schools, that includes Maryland, courses are 120 hours. That?s a big difference. Is Maryland superior to Duke in academics? No. Is Duke just as shady as every other major basketball school when it comes to so-called ?student-atheletes?? You had better believe it. (If you want real student-athletes go to the Patriot League.

So please, shut up. Maryland won fair and square. They deserved the title. I was there to watch them win it, I was there at the ACC tourney, and I was there for the last game at Cole; trust me on this, you can find no more deserving team than Maryland.

P.S. How?s ole? nut-sack-boy Reggie Love doing?

People,get over it,you all know that the lakers are the best team so why bother to root for anyone else?WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT,GO LAKERS! ::)

Well, I don't think anyone would or could argue that the Lakers aren't the best team in basketball universally.  But in college...

so...
is this going to become a football thead once the football sesson starts?

No, that would be just silly, we'll have a football thread by then.  BTW, Colorado will own in college football this year.

yes, and hopefully the packers will have a decent team this year(and a decent middle linebacker) also, i hope that farve has fewer turnovers than last year, omg was that a painful thing to see

Painful... don't talk to me about painful... There is a reason that UofM sells out 111,000 plus every single game and the Pontiac Pussycats are building a smaller stadium (at least they are moving back downtown). ?Painful is watching the draft choiced the Lions make.. let alone the games.

Oh, and don't be foolish, it didn't take until football season.. did it?

wow blackhand your a dick...I am a great duke fan...I have liked them for 5 years. ?3 people in my family have graduated from Duke recently and I'm trying to say that I like them. ?ha just a fair weathered fan..I know more than you can imagine and your just being a dick.

By the way I am going to Regis next year with a 97% average.

Bondo 3 championships and they always go far in the ncaa tourny

Which other year did they win, I know they won last year and then with Laetner and Hill in '92.  Maybe I should have said in 11 years if they won in '91 (UNLV?).  Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong about these things.

Yes they won it 91,92,01:)


Whatever though sorry to Blackhand and Grifter for bothering you guys...I get intense with sports now you know that sorry :)

No need to say sorry to me... my comment about your long winded post was sarcasim...  Everyone is welcome to their opinion guy... even duke fans.  As long as you don't say anything bad about Bobby Knight, then I'd have to kill you.  Honestly.. I don't care much for college hoops... too many greedy shits that leave school early and just treat it as a minor league step to move to the pro's.  I've always been against Prop 48, and all it stands for.  Acadamic admissions should be the same for all students, athletes or not.  College basketball is the bigest offender.  Football is bad, but not quite as bad.  

And I've always wondered... why do so many people follow, cheer, and purchase so much behind college athletics when they never attended the school (many of them never went to college).  Too bad college athletics isn't about colleges anymore.

ok grif and i like bobby knight too: one of my favorite quotes

"When my time on earth is passed
and my activities here are complete
I want them to bury me upside down
so my critics can kiss my ass"


and you did see in my long winded post how Duke doesn't let in bad students due to basketball skill :D

ok well I'm done talking about this subject :) can we let this thread die down considering basketball is almost over and college has been over forever.

Its funny how us rsaholics and r6aholics talk sports,hehe

first and foremost, I'm an ass. I wear this title proudly, especially here with so many young'ins who can't seem to type a complete sentence.

infection, the bottom line is this; anyone who claims that Maryland are a bunch of craps who got lucky because certain teams got knocked out don't know anything about college basketball or more particularly, ACC basketball.

Again, Maryland won fair and square and beat plenty of great teams to do so in both the regular and post-season. Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Wisconsin, UConn, NC State, Indiana, Princeton, Temple, Illinois; they all were defeated by the Terps.

Is Maryland is best team ever? No.
Is Maryland going to win again next year? Probably not.
Did Maryland EARN their title? Yes. That's what matters.

Grift, I agree. However, the appeal of college sports to many is the fact that you're rooting for a team that isn't simply the team from your hometown, rather a team from a place you were a part of for a couple of years.

Oh, that's the one place I do get it Blackie.  I still cheer for WMU, MSU and UofM (WMU the most, since that was my undergrad and where I played ball... Go Bronco's!!).  I just don't get the people that have never gone to college and yet are the bigest fanatics about them....  ie, a few uncles of mine that go to every UofM game and spend lots of hours and cash on anything UofM... but never attended any college... what motivates all these people?  I have a big bitch against colleges where students can't go to games because too many people not in the university want tix...  Hell, at WMU all students were given free tickets to all events... just had to show up with the student ID a week before the event to pick up your free ticket.  Then they sold the left overs (BTW, not as good a team for sure, but more students at WMU then UofM).  I just hate how College athletics aren't about the colleges themselves... but the allmighty dollar...

Hey Grift, I have gone to Northern Colorado (a D2 and soon do be D1-AA team) and now go to CU-Colorado Springs (a D3 team).  Is it wrong for me to cheer for CU-Boulder even though I never went there?  Or is the fact that my cousin and brother have both graduated from there good enough?

Big difference between cheering for a school that your brothers went to... and buying season tickets at $110/game for a school that nobody you know went to... and being the bigest jerk, dumbass fans to boot.....

Okay, okay, that was pretty pathedic, had we played well we would have swept them! Assassin was right, Lakers in 5. - Darn, Still, I'll take the Kings over the Lakers in 6.  And the Celtics against the nets in 5, I don't think that NJ Matches well again the Celtics at all.

-Typhy

It could be the end for the Nets but if Kidd can stay with Pierce or atleast slow him down or match him with some points they have a chance.  Then Van Horn could stay on Walker for long enough to slow him down it's possible the Nets win.  Remember they did have the best record in the Eastern Conference and they won't retire easily.

After the Lakers made the Kings their bitches today, I take the purple and gold in 5.

Ok... it is true that Paul Pierce is fucking good, but one man will not carry his team past the nets. The thing I love about the nets is their teamwork. Not only is Jasin Kidd a awesome shooter, he has unbelievable talent n finding players for an open shot. I live real close to The Nets stadium so I have been both a Knicks and Nets fan my whole life. Finally the Nets have made it to the playoffs, give them some credit. Just because Boston destroyed Detriot doesn't mean they will do the same to the Nets.

Remember when the Celtics beat etriot 64-62. That is freaking sad !. The Net's don't score less then 100 points a basketball game. If Boston can't produce some nights.... the Nets are gonna own the Celtics. All year long, no matter how good the Nets played they keep being the under dogs. I think you all should bet on the Nets.... I already made 200 bucks this way. I will see you guys in the Finals against LA.

Ult they weren't really under dogs..they were the number 1 seed in the East..they were expected to beat some teams

Ultimo, I disagree, Walker, Pierce and others can lead the Celtics, they're just to deep for the Nets to take out, Van Horn vs Walker, and Kidd vs Pierce, and then where it favors the Celtics is the rest of the teams vs the rest of the team. Assassin, I was really disapointed with the Kings in game 1, that was sad, I do think that they have what it takes, Sure, Bryant can take out Bibby, however, Bibby can't take out Bryant, he can really close off a lot of his drives to the baskett.  The Lakers have no one to match up against Webber, Just like the Kings have no one to go against Shaq. Styackaviotch will be the key to the whole thing, he will miss the first two games, however he will be there in game 3 it looks like, then I think that the Lakers are in trouble.

Typhy they can double team Shaq and he will still dunk on their heads...then they can triple team him and he can give it to Fox,Kobe or Horry for the triple :). ?Nobody is beating the Lakers sorry guys..Lakers in 4 if they don't fuck up. ?

And Typhy I think the Nets are deeper and stronger than the Celtics. ?They have Kenyen Martin and Kerry Kittles...not to mention Lucious Harris just sitting on the bench. ?They are more of a team then the Celtics. ?The Celtics are Walker and Pierce. ?The Nets work together as a team...believe me Kidd and Van Horn didn't lead them. ?Don't get me wrong I think Peirce and Walker are awesome but the whole team did got them to where they are, that duo did.  I don't believe that duo is strong enough to defeat a whole team.  Can you name someone on the Celtics that is going to step up big if Peirce or Walker is out? ?

im sticking to lakers in 5 (but i pray for lakers sweep  ;D)

Typhy, when Stojakovic comes back from his ankle injury, he will be no where near 100%. he wont be able to get open for a three because Fox will suffocate him and he cant run the floor (even when he had two good wheels).

As for the coverage specs that Typhy put out...Webber is easily defended. CWebb has to settle for 10-15ft jumers because he cant go at Shaq in the middle...this is where Horry and friends come in. All they have to do is get a hand in his face.

Shaq and Kobe are essentially invincible...they can make anyone on the floor their bitches. they double Shaq and the ball goes to Kobe. They cut off Kobe (somehow) and Shaq has a hammer slam to follow. There is no stopping L.A. unless they fuck up as infection said.

As for Nets/Celtics...this may be the only thing Typhy will get right in these playoffs. Celtics took 3 of 4 from the Nets, including both games in New jersey. Pierce and Walker are on FIRE from three point land and as long as they keep it up, the Nets are doomed. Celtics in 6.

Yes, also: Rodney Rogers, and Tony Delk for the Celtics. While the Kings may have trouble stoping the Lakers, I think that if it comes into a shooting match the Kings can win it. They have great intensity, if they get on a role, then they can take 20-0 runs.

Well? Who is betting on War Emblem for the triple Crown?

 why the hell not?

Well, I didn't see the 4th quarter for the Nets game because I had to go out, but all I have to say is The Nets own the Celtics. Whoever said that the Nets didnt have a chance..... shame on you. The celtics obviously can't keep up with NJ style basketball. They looked like a bunch of old women out on the court today. Once againKidd was unstopable.

On the other hand, Pierce was... average. He didn' kill the Nets like everyone expected. Shame on you Celtic fans. I say Nets in 6.

 I told you guys ?that the Nets would play as a team and begin to beat the Celtics. ?8 players on the Nets scored in double digits and almost 9 (keyen martin had 9)  Nobody was selfish, not one person on the Nets scored 20 points.  Also Jason Kidd handled Pierce like a said getting him into foul trouble by taking 2 charges...If they continue to play like a team the Celts don't have a chance :)

Nicely said. I have been telling people this for a long time. A good team with good teamwork can beat one the the best tag team of players like Pierce and Walker. Nets take the series in 6

 After they take the Celts I don't think they can take the tag team of shaq and kobe who will most likely be moving on and if its the kings...they are like the nets: a team and a better one at that so gj to the nets for getting to the championship.

They didn't do it yet.... you never know, Boston might get lucky like last night  :(

yea that was a bit shocking :(

Well, just as I predicted, Nets win in 6 games. Yay!

Although I am a huge Nets fan, I really don't think they ahve a chance against either the Kings or Lakers, but you never kno. let's go Nets!! ;D

Yeah, Nice work, I also don't think that they have a chance against whoever coems out of the west however, who know, most people said that they had no chance against Boston, so we'll see, Still for me, Kings all the way!!

-Typhy

Big Daddy Shaq has finally come alive...41 and 17...wow. ALong with Kobe's 31, this game is going back to Arco for a thrilling Game 7.

(Gotta love Western Conference playoff matches...Hockey: Wings vs Avs, now Basketball: Kings vs Lakers)

Yeah Sin, should be a great game 7. This last game was proably the best played one overall, so far in each game up 'til now, both teams havn't had good games on the same days.  Let's go Kings in game 7 though!

-Typhy

Will the fucking Lakers just lose already? I hate those bastards not just because they are all stuckup little pricks, but I had to see all their retarded fans driving around LA with those gay flags hanging out the window. I hope the Kings bury them at Arco.

Welcome to LA Ace...it is obvious that you havent been around for too long. If you think the flags are crazy now, you should have seen them at the end of last season...Christ. Anyway, anyone who flies the flags are trend faggots who aren't really fans. Hell, I have been a Lakers fan through the good and the bad times (good being nowadays and the early 90's, bad being the days of Del Harris and Kurt Rambis being coach with Cedric Ceballos and Nick Van Exel as "stars")

The Flags were actually an ingenious idea started by the mexicans in Inglewood and San Pedro...not a bad idea for them...probably made a shitload of money.

Lakers are clutch...YES!  :D

Lakers in 5 over the Nets.

I've been a Lakers fan since the late 80s (or in essence forever), but don't whine about the Nick Van Exel days, being a Nuggets fan as well I got a second dose of him.  Also, not much more painful than being a Nuggets fan.  Maybe just maybe being a Clippers fan would be worse but at least they show promise now.

WOOOOT LAKERS!!! ?Eat your heart out Typhy ;) ?This is what great Basketball is all about!!! ?Nice Tight Close Competition! ?Mike Bibby is the man for the Kings! ?But Lakers are a team that just can't be beat right now!!! ?Congratulation Lakers and all Lakers Fans for our Extremely Suspensing OverTime Win!!! ?WOOOT!!! 8) ?This made my Weekend! ?Won BL in 3 Ladders and my team won the Western Conference! ?1 more ring for Phil Jackson coming up! ?*Foreseeing the Future* Cover of Sports Illustrated with Phil Jackson with a ring on each Finger after we get the 3Peat against the Nets!!! ?WOOOT!!! ?

I don't think they make rings that fit on thumbs, maybe he'll just have to have double duty on the ring finger.  Still, its fucking impressive that he has 10 rings, even if he got 6 thanks to Jordan and 3 thanks to Kobe and Shaq.

Phil Jackson's picture would be the little one in the corner, with Scotty Bowman's being the headline... Scotty has a few more rings.... After wining this year, Scotty will have a ring for each finger... ON BOTH HANDS. ?He's won 1 as a player and 8 as a coach so far...

Here's a little snip for ya....

Bowman has been referred to by Sports Illustrated as ?the best coach ever in a major professional sport,? and a recent fan poll conducted by ESPN ranked Bowman fourth in the top 10 Greatest Coaches of the 20th Century.

So, no offense, but Jackson can take a back seat.
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Uhh, Phil Jackson currently has 8 from coaching and 1 as a player, so if he gets another this year he would have more than your precious Scotty Bowman.  Certainly wouldn't claim that Jackson is the best coach though, he's had the best players.

Nice math nim-wit...  I see you went to the school that 9+1=11 Bondo, because that's the only way he'd have MORE.... idiot.  

Oh, I thought you were counting this year.  And you are the one who was saying Phil Jackson would be in the corner of the cover because Bowman would be the main focus (despite having no more rings).  I guess it was wrong of me to assume that by saying he would be featured more promanantly that you were saying he has more rings.

Nets beat Lakers in 7 games. Biggest upset in basketball !

Maybe you should read the whole post... including the snippit from ESPN...  

And Ult, that would actually make me watch the finals again =d

Great, I don't see why one of the Greatest coaches ever winning a 10th ring deserves more notice than a coach that had great players and won a 10th ring.

And that is why I consider you an idiot...  

You just said it yourself... one of the greatest coaches ever over one that just had some great players... which is more of the accomplishment?  Which does SI praise in those accomplishments more?  Why would I ever think that that trend would continue?

Bondo, the guy that never let facts get in the way of his persona opinion,,,

But if the guy is one of the greatest coaches of all time and already has 9 rings, why is getting a 10th so great that it needs to be praised.  Maybe they'll have a split page Phil Jackson's hands with 10 rings on one side and Bownan's on the other side.

 ::Nets shut down Shaq::

It could happen...mb Kidd could stop Kobe....but mb not...I would like to see the Nets win but it's not gonna happen so like I said before when they started to play the Celts good job for getting to the finals.

Anyway these still could be some exciting games

At first I thought you were being sarcastic with your argument Bondo, but your persistence seems to indicate otherwise, in which case you are a COMPLETE AND TOTAL IDIOT. Last year Barry Bonds broke McGwire's record. When he hit 72 and 73 no one said, "Well, he already has 71, who cares about anymore." When could someone achieve something as amazing as getting 10 rings, I think you are going to bring it to light.

But my point is why is it more special for a guy who is one of the best coaches ever getting his 10th compared to any other coach?

I'll try to say this again then...

Reason one, you mentiond yourself... he's one of the best coaches ever, where as Phil didn't really have to coach all that much with the Bulls.

Reason two, because SI seems to think highly of Scotty.  They tend to treat him with more regard then they do with Phil.

On the personal opinion side, I don't think Jackson was even close to the reason why the Bulls won their titles.  They were there under Collins, but just didn't beat the Pistons that year (and the Pistons were damn good that year, so it's not Doug's fault).  If you remember back then, it was Jordon and Collins not getting along that was the real problem in Chicago before Jackson... but the Bulls would have won titles just the same with Collins as coach.  Whereas Scotty came in and pulled the Dead Wings back into a team that was in contention every year.  He took a team with a bunch of offensive talent and would dissapoint every year and completely changed it to a team that could play on both ends of the ice and win.  Scotty makes a big difference in close games... switching up lines and getting the Wings to win games against teams that have more talent or are faster then them.  He's brings the complete package to the team... when he leaves, the Wings will go down hill quickly... they'll have to rebuild completely.  Where, in my opinion, there were lots of coaches that could have coached the Bulls or the Lakers to titles.  Any coach besides Bowman behind the Wing's bench and the Av's would have been in the Finals...  Because the Av's got out coached more then out played (except in that last game).

Grifter, there is one fatal flaw in your arguments. Phil Jackson is a good coach for the fact that he is going to win his thrid title in a row with the Lakers. You will say to me "but the Lakers have Shaq and Kobe, they should easily win." But the flaw with that argument is that Shaq and Kobe were already together before Phil arrived. The Lakers were swept out of the playoffs by the Spurs before Phil arrived. Rambis and Harris both failed to win titles with the dynamic duo, Phil hasn't even lost a playoff series with them. Also, whoelse but Phil could have quelled the tempest that occured when both Shaq and Kobe began openly fighting in the media?

 Grifter your wrong he is and was a very good coach...he did have to work with the Bulls. ?He had to make them belive they liked people like Dennis Rodman and make it a team. ?And they did get into plenty of trouble where they needed his help especially in that last championship run where they were in a game 7 during the playoffs and Karl Malone gave them a run in the finals.

They also started that season 7-8 and he along with Scottie Pippen were able to turn that around to at 62-20 record.

I love how people are counting the Nets out before the finals even begins. This happened when everyone said "The Nets are going to get ownd by Pierce and Walker". Boy did I prove them wrong. I am sticking with my bet, Nets in 7.

Ult, you stop Shaq, and Kobe rapes you. You stop Kobe, and Shaq rapes you. There is no way the Nets are going to win...the only time Shaq faced NJ, he put up 40 and 10...you aren't going to stop him. (Todd MacCulloch was raped by Shaq during the finals last year when he played with Philly)

Sin and Infection, I didn't say Phil was a bad coach, just that he wasn't a great coach (or near the top 10 of the last 100 years).  Yes, he's actually been coaching at LA, and you'll notice I didn't rag on his performance there... only in Chicago, where he won most of the titles.  Collins made that team, built it up, and Jackson was just there to step in (this is my opinion)

As for his ability to make people like Rodman... lmao, Rodman was loved in Detroit, but then again, he didn't get away with jack shit here, because Chuck kept him in line much better then any other coach has since.  Hell, you'd always here that Rodman was late for pre-game and fined $$$$, but that would be the end of it.  Daily new how to keep him under control.  Rodman was also a better player when he played for Detroit... again, just my opinion, but he was much more focused on the game back then.

So, while Phil Jackson has a good track record of coaching teams with much talent on them (maybe he's very good at stroking ego's), I don't think he's actually in the same league with a coach like Bowman (or Bobby Knight, or Lombardi, two of my other fav's)  Besides, Bowman already has one other thing on Jackson (unless I missed a press announcment somewhere)... Bowman is already in the Hall of Fame (one more reason that he stands out is all).  

One final note, could Phil end up being a better coach then Scotty... sure, maybe... only time will tell though.  There are more to it then just the rings, and Bowman has done it all well for a long, long time.  We'll see about Jackson.  He could be.

Just as the Canes suprised Detriot last night, The Nets will suprise alot of people this year. Mark my words.

 Like Bondo said last night about the Canes I'm saying about the Nets after the first period..they have nothing on the Lakers...they have to believe like the Kings, I want to see the explosive Nets.

yea...the nets are looking pretty sad after tonight
i wonder if they are going to wait for the end of the 2nd game to start the victory celebrations in la...

lol, Shaq was shooting like shit and he "only" got 36...as a side note, all of the Nets' centers are Shaq's bitches.

That would be their uhh 2 centers sin?  Collins did very well against him in the one quarter he played which was the fourth.  Now I think the nets were just nervous..they outplayed the lakers in the other 3 quarters and could have a chance to beat them if they are able to play like that the whole game.

MacCulloch, Williams, Collins...3 centers.

The Nets only came back because the Lakers hit it into cruise control and didn't get Shaq the ball during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. If Shaq were to be fed the ball the entire game, no one is going to stop him from getting 50.

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Williams is fat short butthole guy and DIE Rapid

The impression Rapid gives me by the way he types about the Lakers is that he is one of those trend faggots who fly's the Lakers flags from his car windows...

Heh, Told you so ;)

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ok, so the nets turned out to be the lakers bitches, and detroit stuck it to the canes. that means thet this thread and the hockey thread are essentially dead untill next year.
my question is this, now what? what is the next major sport to show up, baseball? or do you want to skip baseball and go straight into football?
or do we want to talk about how the us team is doing in the world cup?(or some other topic of interest...)

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