*DAMN R6 Forum

ok... I know capt was stupid  making his site... but from what Ive heard the other members will not be able to join other clans too. If this is true I think that it is a bit severe to punish the other members of the clan when most of them had absolutly nothing to do with capts moronic decision.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif)

BTW what happened to Freedom of Press?

Mauti is austrain!

isn't this old news? i don't thik anything affects the members being able to join other clans unless i missed somethin. if this about the ak bashing site going back on the net, capt nor any other person of *NADS put it online, i know who did it. Now i just wait for rapid to acuse me of it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

ok good.... cus cookie, souljah, justin, and bio shouldnt be punished along with capt

bah there are others besides them?
ben, bronto and desert  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

oops i forgot about des........ he hasnt been on for a while, but bronto and ben are gunna be screwed over with this ip thing

what fucking bullshit is this. give me a full, detailed essay explaining the situation please.

From what I hear Capt uploaded it again, *NADS is banned from the next season of bl play.

Well, i believe that your beloved captain anarchy is being punished by the BL for his |?gressive Homosexuals| site :D.  i hadn't heard anything about any punishment until now but i guess as flame said, you aren't allowed to join any new clans... that sucks :(  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ukliam2.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/shocked2.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ukliam2.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/shocked2.gif) btw, sry for not giving u a full, detailed essay explaining the situation

I am in the mood to delete this whole BULLSHIT because all your statments are bullshit. Excuse my words but I really don't know who spread this rumors about that all members are banned.

First Cossak you have freedom of speech but I don't think to make a similiar site with the only purpose to damage a clan has nothing to do with freedom of speech.

Second Casper this has nothing to do with my nationality. I am Austrian and we have freedom of speech as you have. However you can't insult people on the streets out of a mood. Check the laws. Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to insult people.

Third I don't have banned all clan members. *NADS and further Capt Anarchy has been banned. All members can join other clans. *NADS was banned because Capt is the founder of *NADS. If it was only a member I would have asked the leader to take action against his behaviour.

Fourth Capt Anarchy made the page and had the access data to the site where the page is stored yet. If someone others uploaded his page well where is the difference. Capt Anarchy knew what he was doing.

Fifth I am open to discuss this out with Capt Anarchy. I don't have anything against him personally but I have to lead a league where we have some rules.

Last but not least why do you always believe these GR rumors if I would have banned all members I would have posted this. Be so clever to check the news first before you post some (attention I say it again) BULLSHIT.

Have a nice day,

Mauti

Where the hell do i come intp play here? I don't even know who shade is.

i'm over at macclans having fun with automotives.

I guess you're right Mauti.

Thank you for the explanation, Mauti. But i do think it is just a tad bit harsh to suspend *NADS for next season as well, but, it is up to you, i just thought i would voice my opinion. Meowzers.

ok... I was just asking, and now I understand the reasoning.

Mauti,
        I did check the news. Nothing there as far as I can find... (August 2002!) Also, maybe you shouldn't blame it on Capt. I mean, he told me he was keeping the site, and he was going to actually make fun of every clan (*NADS, (unt, <although I have no clue how to make fun of a joke clan>*DAMN, KoS, ViRuS, and FiRe included) It wasn't meant to be hurtful. The only reason he kept it on his server was so he could bring it up with the others..

        Also, he wasn't the one that wanted to bring it back, nor was any *NADS member. I won't name names, but maybe the person should come forward on his or her own?

       Lastly, if you're gonna ban Capt from this, feel free to ban me. I'm just as guilty as he is. I knew he was keeping it on file as he was going to make fun of every clan site. I also knew that it was uploaded as someone else told him too. Call me irrational, but maybe you should look around for the reason the site went back up... Or maybe just ban anyone involved.. It doesn't seem right that you'd only punish Capt. Hell, In my mind, it doesn't feel right that you'd punish Capt at all.

P.S. I wrote the news section of the AK site. I'm as guilty as Capt.

Ben

I also knew of capt's plan, and volunteered to help him if he needed it. It was not meant to be hurtful, only a humorous vent for capts creativity for everyone to laugh at, not put one clan in the spotlight. It was meant to entertain everyone.

Ben look at the BL news!

Btw this ban is not coming from nowhere. I warned only 22days ago that I'll take use of some rules if this impersonating doesn't stop.  I think it was Snake that asked to remove the site asap. Anarchy did so and everything was fine with me. But suddenly only 2 days before the first season is over someone is uploading the site again. Well looks like someone provokes it...

Ben the site is still online as I know Anarchy has still access to this site and its server so when he is so innocent why he didn't remove it.

Further Ben you write that you are making jokes about all clans well isn't it mainly AK. I only saw  the AK site redone not any others. I know Rapid can be annoying because he almost always starts flame wars however after a warning I think you all knew it was enough and you also knew what will come if you don't stop.

The BL: It is all about fun playing a common series of games but obviously some guys have other intentions. These guys are playing in the wrong league you should join the WE MAKE FUN ABOUT EVERYONE LEAGUE. That is maybe the right league for you but we want to play R6 RS and soon GR.

Regards,

Mauti

Actually you could go in the street calling people "dick heads and assholes" if you wanted to here.... You could do it in front of the White House as well, with a sign too.  As long as you don't use violent action or threats you're fine....

if i'm not mistaken, the site is at a different URL than the one capt uploaded. yes freedom of speech in the US gives use the right to insult people (watch saterdaynight live) you just can't threaten.

Roger that.


Yes. He took it down at *DAMN's request. Who's request was it to put it up again though. He did it at someones request, he would ahve kept it down otherwise. Maybe you should figure out who can overrule the *DAMN decision. I hope the unnamed person will come forward. If he doesn't, I understand, and I'll keep my mouth shut, but is it really worth *NADS off the BL and Capts ban? Come forward please. Don't let me lose respect for you.


He did remove it actually. Then he put it back up on a different address like 2 weeks after he removed it. I iterate (reiterates not a word) Someone asked for him to put it up.


Yes, you may have only seen the AK site. It also sounds like you claim he didn't take it down, or that he put it back on the same address, which is not the case. Maybe it's because you haven't really seen anything. Maybe it's other people seeing for you, and reporting to you without giving you the whole story. *Cough* Rapid? *Cough*


I whole heartedly agree. You should kick those guys out. Unfortunately, Typhy is in AK, along with Monk, who refrain from making fun of people. It's only Rapid picking fights or pulling a "Randal" from Recess. (I love that show :)) If you want to consider us making fun of AK, be my guest, but in the same respect, the polls against ejo are to be treated with a ban from the BL. Uh oh, there goes the totality of KoS, AK, (unt, and some of Fire. Maybe you're rules are a bit off? Making "fun" of people would require you are doing something with the sole purpose to hurt their feelings. We are not. As I speak I bet Capt is putting the finishing touches on the KoS or DAMN or NADS site. Maybe you should ask him about it? Oh wait, you assumed to quickly and banned him. (bah, sorry, the more I think about Capt being banned, the more pissed I am)

Ben

might i add that rapid crys wolf a whole hell of alot.
i'm not saying i don't think that teh website shouldn't be punished.

yea i agree with ben and jeb. How come, since capt. put a site up mocking Ak, he was banned ( yes i know he was warned ), but if you look at the Ak site, in the news and other sections of the site, Ak mocks NAD's, along with other clans they do not like, and yet they are still kicking? Even after Ak has been warned about flaring things up...

ak had it comming. after all the crap they put other clans through, the least we can do is have a good laugh. its just a website, and there is no real proof (from what ive gathered) of its uploading being related to capt anarchy. i mean, hell, the bs AK made KoS go through in their last cb went unpunished, and that bs was real. that page is just for humor. different people have different taste. if an author writes a book you dont like, you dont exile him/her from your country.. you just dont read it. trash talking is a part of the RS community, and AK bashing is nothing new or rebelious to the forums. the decision to ban NADS over something like this is just pathetic. once again RS has nothing to do with an important BL decision.. and once again AK is victorious in bsing its way to.. well, victory

"22. *DAMN reserves the right to remove or ban any clan which acts unacceptably."

Why is this rule even applicable to our situation? I don't see why outside disputes are even affiliated with *DAMN. As long as what Capt was doing didn't disrupt the BL, what right had you to ban our whole clan from a season of play mauti? I understand it's your BL, but at least try and be fair and impartial. In truth, Rapid should have settled this dispute with Capt before whining to you about his clan being made fun of. JEEZUS, nobody can take a joke anymore. It's just a game, remember?

Number two, this is BS because Rapid has made countless pictures mocking other clans and respective rogue spear players. What makes him any different from Capt? I'm sure we can all recall the AK vs IAM conflict. There was plently of mocking going on there, but nothing of this magnitude or severity occured. What kind of justice is this?!?! If Rapid can't take knocks when he doles them out in plenty, he might as well have his goddamn foot up his own ass. This brings me to another point: the fact that Rapid accused KoS of getting in his team mates, well guess what? HE JUST GOT IN MY WHOLE CLAN.  >:(

Now, im sorry for cussing like a sea dog and such, but this really pisses me off. If *DAMN is going to keep up this heirarchal nepotistic crap, i say screw the BL, it's only a game. I only wish Rapid would get this through his self absorbed skull. Up until now i've gotten along fairly well with Rapid, but this is crossing the line. I'm sorry it went down like this, but this just flat out pisses me off.

Cookie,
Rapid has a tremendous ego, just remember his clan has under 5 active members.

also, what is with rapid playing the holyer than though card? i mean shit when viper got typhy banned he put all of Kos, and all of Cunt on ignore and talked alot of trash. and just now cookie was talking to him and rapid said

"|?K|*R?p!d?*: Jeb was part of the making of that clan so fuck him and the hole he came from also"
 talk about a respectful person

Correction, if you don't count Rapid, its under 3... (Typhy and 5150)

Ben

I remember the IAM and AK situation. IAM had pretty offensive personal attacks on Rapid, but the clan wasn't suspended for a whole friggin season.

If the site was requested  by someone else, Capt could have easily denied and just said NO. He knew the consequences.

And another point: Capt posted the URL on the *DAMN forum. During the IAM bs they didn't post their shit on here. So that could have an affect on the severity of the punishment.
 

exactally, its not about RS anymore.

and why do the BL administrators feel AKs pain when they have done so much crap to other clans? i understand taking it easy on the noob clan of GR, but its starting to go too far. if you ban NADS for a season, you will have to ban AK the next time they do something silly too.

|?K|*R?p!d?*: too bad you're mad at me when I was the one being picked at in the first...
|?K|*R?p!d?*: but w/e
|?K|*R?p!d?*: it's always me and it's because I'm the one killing you guys in the games...
|?K|*R?p!d?*: w/e you grudgy lil punks
|?K|*R?p!d?*: treat me bad cuz of it...
|?K|*R?p!d?*: as if that's going to affect my gameplay...
 *** |?K|*R?p!d?* looks at you pissed off ***
[bunch of meaningless crap here]
[begin closing statement by Rapid]
|?K|*R?p!d?*: and sincerely laugh that Capt's immaturity caused your whole clan to get banned.
|?K|*R?p!d?*: so =P
[at this point I close the window and try to think happy/intelligent thoughts, however difficult this may seem after such a lame and pointless discussion]

thank you mauti for reinforcing this behavior. I sincerely hope that you feel your BL is better without us, because the BL average IQ just got significantly lowered as one less clan is out and Rapid is still in  >:(

Yeah an opportunity to use shit from my phylosophy class!!

Ok, when seeking the punishment of the "crime" the nature of the offense must be sought. When seeking the nature of the offense the intention must be sought. My, thoughts are such, the most easily argued intention would be a repayment of that which ?K has done to *NADS. The nature of the offense would be revenge, in which case *NADS would be justified in doing such. A reasonable arguement would be that the intention was to make a joke (which did actually suceed.) The nature then being that it was done for laughs; a joke that ultimatly suceeded. The least arguable point would only be in a circumstance that presented ?K as having done absolutly nothing; innocent, never caused controversy, no history of decet; basiclly pisturing ?K to be the pristine example of what a clan should be. *Nads would then have to be the the ultimate shit clan; killing noob clans, hacking; lieing, getting people banned for no reason. Then i could understand why the action taken would be appropriate.

As you can see, the latter is most certainly out of the question. The former statements show that the punichment taken was much to harsh for the nature of teh offense.

If any of the *Damn staff that worked out this decision would like a friendly debate on the matter in order to settle this i would be glad to take the *NADS side of the arguement. I think it would be good to see what the sides of the story are and discuss it as men/women of higher intelligence than that of squirells. Again, contact me on this matterm should you decide that i haev no right in suggesting any such means of logical annalasis tell me and i will refrain from stating my arguement in complete form. If, you accept tell me where the discussion will take place and i will be there ready to defend that which should have happened but did not. I will be waiting.

Nice way to modify my quotes to make me sound worse...

I with all reason agree with Mauti's decision for simple reasons.  I too could've made a site clowing *NADS, but Mauti specifically asked for that not to be done and warned that if I did, or Capt put that site back up(which is the same exact url as before, unlike some of you tried to say here earlier), he would ban us and our clan from BL.  I perfectly understood that and complied and respected his decision.  Believe me, if I would've done my mock site of *NADS, you would've felt dirty after I got done with you.  Instead Capt decided to test's Mauti's decision and warning and put the site back up, when originally he was asked to delete it completely.  He's the webmaster, designer of that whole site and he had the responsibility to get rid of this site.  He chose to do otherwise and jeopardize his whole clan's position in BL without remorse for his clanmates.  Sure all these kids thought it was so funny that it shouldn't be punished and think that if enough of them come protest, Mauti will give in to the non-sense.  Too bad Mauti sees right  thru that and that's why I respected his request for us to not disrespect each other with mock sites and posted it on the main BL news with an additional warning to each one of us.  Now grow up and stop acting innocent.  Sure I get wound up and let you guys have a piece of my mind, whether you like it or not, but you ask for it and you reap what you sow...  I'm glad I wasn't stupid enough to disrespect Mauti's request and get my clan banned from not only this season, but next.  Mauti is a man of his word and that's something you kids need to respect, or learn the hard way... >:(

 Okay guys, from what I see through talking to people on the messangers, also looking at some of the other posts, you all mention that "Someone" made Anarchy put up the site, the fact is, that Anarchy either gave them the script for the site, or put it up himself, no matter how you figure it, for that site to get in the internet, Anarchy had to be involved.

I find the funniest thing here being that a KoS posted on this thread, saying that "It's not about RS anymore, it's about cheap ways to win", or somthing like that; Hello dude! ( Geek ) Remember what Vip3r did to me? Was that about Rogue Spear? I sure as hell don't think so. Why should we want to get *NADS ban? We're 3-0 against *NADS, 3 good battles, and we always look forward to playing against them more. If Anarchy wants to state his opinion through his site of things that AK has done, then that is his right. You will never see a link on the AK page that takes you to a fake version of another clans site.

Anarchy brought this upon himself, he was warned not to put the site up again, and like Ejo said, if someone asked him to do, all that he had to say is "No". Jeb or someone comment on the fact that we only have somthing like 5 active members, well Jeb, we can own you at Rogue Spear with those 5 active members, bring it - Oh wait, I forgot, you don't battle us because we "Take the game to seriously". Geek? You calling me a newbie? Bring it, anytime, Rogue Spear, 1v1. It's a fact that I've been on GameRanger longer than you have. Come out and put your crap on the line. You call us a newbie clan? Then all of you other RS clans suck for letting a "Newbie clan" win the Battle League.

Geek, you say that everyone deserves a good laugh at our expense, you have no idea the crap that I and other AK members have to go through, I did an experiment, I joined hosts such as Rob, Pyrex, and Tiger under random AK names, I was booted because I had the clan name AK on. Thats what we have to put up with. The reason for this, you dislike Rapid, my responce to that, get the fuck over it. - I ask you Geek to shut your mouth, you have no argument about us being cheap to get clans/players etc. off the battle league considering that your clan supported your member ( Vip3r ) in doing so. Geek, stop posting and bring it. Cookie, things like that are little things that you've taken from Rapid saying things that may make him look bad, Rapid doesn't have the time to post all of the crap that people said to him or he would have more posts than Bondo, Rapid, myself and the rest of our clan have to put up with so much, it's not even funny.

Oh, just looked at somthing that I missed, Ben saying that if you don't count Rapid, it's 2. Actually, if you're going by that, if you don't count Rapid, it's one, but you do count Rapid, if you don't count anyone in the KoS clan other than Dest, they only have 1 active member ( Just using you as an example of how stupid Ben is, Dest ).

Perhaps Anarchy should come in and post here, I had to fight my ass off in the |CF| issue and lost, you should come defend yourself, make your case.  Cookie, durring the IAM issue, IAM had a page up on their site with a picture of some really stupid looking dude ( Crow had no problem getting it, he just snapped his own photo with a digital camera ), and also, some really lame music, and a whole page titled "Rapid speaks", with a fake question/answer page about Rapid. - Rapid's responce was a comment on our news section saying how stupid joke crap like that is. - Rapid makes simple responces within our site, not making whole mock sites and crap like that, Rapid has far better things to do than this.

I close this out by saying that I agree with the punishment against Anarchy.

-Typhy



 

Its very hypocritical of you to be over here, complaining about viper, then next thing you know, supporting Rapid's behavior of getting *NADS banned. How are they different?! I mean, come on, *NADS did what they were told by putting up the *NADS site, and now we get fucking burned like a bitch. You impersonated on your own free will. Don't be a hypocrite.


Um, that's bs. Electronicjo, Vip3r, Nomad, Silvio... There's at least 4 active members moron. AK has the least active members of every clan in RS. I've seen each 1x since yesterday. (Except Silvio, I just know hes active though)


I was told he was banned from the forums. If it's true, that'd be an invalid point.


To be honest, I'm ashamed of you. I could relate you to you bashing viper 100 different places on this forum for getting you banned for something minor. Now, look at this, Capt gets banned, and what do you do? You are like "Good, I'm glad he got banned. He deserved it." Don't be such a hypocrite. It's quite funny how you, in the same post, take Rapid's side. Then, right in the middle of taking Rapid's side, mention how you're ban was unfair. This ban was more unfair then that ban, yet you support it.

And yet another hypocritical example. A day or two ago you were telling me you were going to quit AK... Why? Rapid. You were going on about him being on a power trip. You came to the assumption Rapid was bringing AK down. At that moment you hated Rapid. "You hate Rapid - Get over it" was pretty much your quote here. If he's bad enough you would even think about leaving the clan you're in, the clan you started, the clan you love, how do you want us to get over "it"!? We have no incentive, and while Rapid continues to act this way, it is safe to say we never will.

Ben

Those quotes were all your own rapid, I didn't need to modify anything for you to make it obvious that you can be a total jackass and self centered bastard sometimes. In fact, probably more than sometimes, I just chose to ignore the fact that you were a jackass before this whole fiasco because I avoid conflict. Thanks for stepping over the line and I'm so very happy you're getting a laugh from cheating my clan out of its rights. I never did a THING to AK but I still get punished for what an individual did. AND this individual just so happened to not be the sole perpetrator of this action, and i strongly encourage the other to own up to their mistakes. I also find it extremely unfair, Rapid, that my whole clan gets banned for one person mocking your clan, yet in the past when Typhy made up BL rules and defiled clan battle honor, he only got suspended and punished as an individual. Doesn't this seem a) hypocritical for you to insist on group punishment when typhy was punished individually in the past and b) skewed because typhys crime was one that actually affected the BL?? Yes, so you see my point. Now stop whining and rambling about disrespect and try and salvage what dignity can be salvaged from this and recitify this situation. Otherwise i'll be forced to think you're just eliminating the competition  ;) (god i know this is going to lead to some serious ego boosting "*NADS bashing" on Rapids part)
 Also, on a final note, i'd like to address this, as it is at the heart of this post.
"I close this out by saying that I agree with the punishment against Anarchy."

JEEEEEEEEESUS, this wasn't simply punishment against Capt Anarchy, it was punishment against my whole clan and anyone who ever wants to crack a joke online  >:(

Hahahaha.

First off, Boofuckinghoo, I had to IP join Rapid's game once(I'm blocked) and he actually booted me for killing him too much(Rapid will probably say I was "lagging" or "crashed", at least it's better than "indexing" right? ;)) . Yeah, that's right, I consecutively killed him at least > 7 times, no exaggeration.

And I believe we have already "brought it", Typhy. Please don't forgot our victorious battle. Geek and I personally, with, of course, You and your kick-ass teammate, Rapid(nice teamwork btw.).

blah blah blah, hope you and all others learned *NADS's mistake...

And also, funny how you try and defend your whole clan, when they already openly admitted to have helped in making the site, and asked to be punished as well(making all of them quiilty as a team effort)...

Ben, get over it, double standards are not allowed.  I got the warning, he got the warning.  I didn't break my promise, Capt did.  End of story.

Oh well, guess when you think you're right, you can't see the facts the way they really are...  

*sigh*

I don't know where to start hmm...

Well Capt wasn't banned from this forum, currently nobody is banned.

Yes to mock clans with fake sites has nothing to do with Rogue Spear. So I took actions to prevent such behaviour Geek.

Cookie Capt is the founder of *NADS, I think also the leader. Usually I would have asked the leader of *NADS to take actions but how can I if Capt is the leader.

25. The clan?s leader is responsible for the acts of the clan?s members... .... Also, on individual violations it is the responsibility of the clan leader to punish his clan members for misdeeds. If sufficient punishment is not given the clan will be held responsible for the act.

That's the reason why I had to ban *NADS.

As a side note the site is still online and Capt still hasn't posted here. As I mentioned it before I am open for every discussion.

I know AK, KoS and many other clans mock each other. I also tolerate it most of the time as I did with Romulus bashing but I think it has to stop somewhere. Copying a website and spread the URL in GameRanger is enough in my opinion. Do you know how many noobs are calling AK AH!?? They just do it because someone made a website. At all you are biased about Rapid but you hurt the whole clan. Probably also some members left because of the pressure you generated.

Of course with the ban also some innocent get banned however you are free to change clans. If you are loyal you don't do it but you would have the possibility.

About the freedom of speech: in Austria we have the same law concerning press freedom. However guys if you think you can insult people as you want you are wrong.Print  President Bush fucked my 11year old daughter  at the New York Times in the headlines. We will see how long it last until you get in trouble. You may can say this on the streets also if you say you hate AK here in the forum I don't have a problem with it. That's your private opinion. Your freedom of speech.

Look at MTV they censor Madonna videos, censor middle fingers everywhere. Come on where is the freedom of speech. But well that's another issue. In this forum you have freedom of speech so I am here to talk with you. But freedom of speech also allows me not to support mocking clanfake sites.

About the URL of this site. The site has been moved once because the first host had only a limited bandwidth. But both URLs were advertised by Anarchy here in the forums. So he knows very well about the current destination of his site.

Many of you say that I made an unfair ban, that I am responsible for the ban. Guys I only react about what someone has done. Anarchy is responsible for this and I think he still has the power to remove the site.

bye,

Mauti

*NADS was banned for a website......

|?K|*33D?gr?: btw inspired by the clan ?(uN? i'm making a Multimockumediamentary entitled;
|?K|*33D?gr?: "Inside the eyes of a farmer named Jeb: "What makes a ?(uN? so hot"  is coming along great and should be ready for release soon!!!!
(uNt?Bunghol: or are you suffering summertime bordoem?
|?K|*33D?gr?: yes and its going to be soooo funny
(uNt?Bunghol: lol
|?K|*33D?gr?: im serious
|?K|*33D?gr?: its for you guys to party to
(uNt?Bunghol: lmao
|?K|*33D?gr?: movies songs quotes
|?K|*33D?gr?: you'll be pissin!
(uNt?Bunghol: heh
(uNt?Bunghol: nj

Who cares if capt posted the link?
its funny

(btw Capt. hasen't responded because he has a JOB.)

AK cares and disliked it. If you find it fun it's ok. Also when Romulus just copied my whole layout I was shocked and I asked to remove it.

I don't have anything against fun but sometimes it's not only about fun it is about to piss off a clan.

Also when Cunt copied the AK gif I laughed because I knew how Rapid would react.

However if a clan feels insult through it I think you should stop with it. Same with impersonations sometimes it can be fun but it can also be very annoying so if the impersonated guy asks to stop with it. It would only be fair to stop with it.

Cry me a fucking river, you have to put up with that shit because rapid has tarnished the Ak name so much with his bullshit ever since you learned how to warez RS. If pyrex was booting you from his game i'd congratulate him, since rapid seems to have most of cunt and kos on the ignore list were does that leave us joining your games?

You said that you were mad at Ak cause rapid was bringing it down, well i think anyone coulda pointed out that. Tell rapid to sack up and be mature, and alot of the BS towards him and AK will end.

The thing is though, rapid doesn't realize this, and he thinks that people hate him because he is a great RS player (he has said this many times), not because he is imature and he shoots his mouth off alot. Fuck, look at how swat was, they were the best and no one hated them because of it.
People don't hate a clan because they are good, people hate a clan because of the Cloud of bs that encircles it.


Oh wait, we don't cb you becasue you bothered me to much for so long that i said we wouldn't cb you, not to mention that your clan leader says nothing but disrespectful things about many gr members and clan mates, also when ever there is "BS" in a cb, there is a high likelyhood that it was a cb that AK was in.

if you saying that you've been on gr longer than me? i'd say you better have a low ass user number then, cause my first acount was in the 1400s. i talked bigpat into trying out gr almost a year after i started using it and his user number is 18,000 something.
jeb
ps. outa the 12 cunt members 10 of them were online today (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)

Jeb, I guess you'll never stop being pathetic.  All I get everyday is people telling me how lame you're being talking shit on me behind my back.  And why is this?  Because "Typhy asked you to CB too many times" and I fought fire with fire against any shit talkers on me who happened to be some of your friends? Yeah, I guess that should bother you...[sarcasm].  I guess since you're mind is so locked in on hating me and my clan, you can make anything out of nothing.  That's why you're always butting in other's people's deal and even helping or instigating others to do deeds that are punishable.  I guess since you're getting off on this so much, you won't be able to stop now, but one day you'll look back and see how much of an idiot you made out of yourself.  Keep up the pointless drama and just watch it keep backfiring not only on you, but those who you involve in it...  (Is jeb's behavior acceptable?) (oh yeah, freedom of speech, as long as he doesn't lead the next parade of clowns to do some stupid BS like this site mocking...)

Also, I would like to take the time out to thank Mauti and Bondo and congratulate them on running such an effective BL and representing it with such respect and honor.  You make perfect role models and I only hope others not only learn from your actions, but start to follow them.  Thanks guys and Great Job!  ;)

I can only shake my head. I just was in GameRanger and iMat and Tech are telling me that my decision was wrong and that I am arrogant. Well but what both missed is to tell me a constructive solution for this issue. I also invite all *NADS to tell me suggestions how to punish only the responsible persons.

It is really obviously you can all insult but not making only ONE constructive suggestion. I think you are all obsessed that I want the worst for *NADS. You are totaly wrong I don't have any feelings towards *NADS. It is my job to keep the league for all clans fun. If one person uses his time to disturb other clans instead of playing cbs he is wrong here. So I ban him. Unfortunaly Capt is the leader of the clan so I had to ban *NADS as well. Except *NADS is going to find an intern solution. Also the site is still up which doesnt show that they want to change their current situation.

Another nice statement in the chat today was "nowadays a clan leader has nothing to say and no importance" Lol especially the TOP clans have all  a strong leader that stands up for his clan. Capt was this person he could say just an example I have done something that damaged my clan I retire so that *NADS can still participate at the BL like politicans do if they have an affair or something else...

I was told to be neutral - Well I am neutral I would have done the same if another clan has the same problem. I have to lead a league that is about a game(s). Statements like fakewebsites improve competition are ridiculious. It ends that one clan ignores the other clan.

One rule at *DAMNs clan codex was since June 2000: Be kind in chat kill in game same should be in the BL. It isn't and I tolerate all those flame wars but as I wrote in another post everything has its borders. I also defeated Romulus because he was insulted from all sites although he was a spammer and made perfect dumbass posts. AK has definitive not a white jacket however sometimes people are going to far. And I also suggest Rapid not to turn this into a "victory for AK" because I would have done that for every clan that feels insulted. Also Cookie or whoever posted this we first talked in a normal way 22 days ago(Snake did). And Capt removed the site asap. I warned all clans to stop with such bs but obviously some guys think that are only words.

iMat also says what is wrong to have an I hate a clan site. capt's site isn't an ordinary "I hate AK site" it is a copy of AK's site. You can all have your I hate this clan and this clan sites no problem that's freedom of speech. But copying or redoing a clan site with the only purpose to insult a clan is something different. If you hate me it's ok it's your opinion and I respect this but if you impersonate me and damage my reputation through your behaviour it isn't ok anymore. Same with I hate this clan site and an redone(impersonated) site of a clan. Maybe you get now my point why I think this site is wrong. A person participating in the BL tries to damage a clan's reputation that is also in the league. As a logical consequence I speak with him and if it doesn't show any results I ban this person to stop this bs or at least to show him that it is wrong.

Bye,

Mauti

mauti, if nothing else, i agree with you banning him until he comes and talks to you.  you've openly repeated that you are willing to clear this up if there is another side then what you are seeing.  also, there was a warning.

my constructive suggestion is that you draw a more clear line.  this all comes down to respect.  there has to be some minimum level of respect between clans.  i don't have all the answers, but i think you and some of your moderators should try to define that minimum level.  

i think the real reason that people have issues with your decision is that until the ah site, the ak site is the most disrespectful to others (from all the ones i've seen).  after all, ak still has images like this (http://homepage.mac.com/akrapid/IAMdead.jpg) on their site.  along with the old insults, etc.  

i'm not advocating either side in this.  i'm suggesting that the spirit of the rule be more clearly defined.  because i can understand why some people may not understand the difference between the ak site's disrespect and the ah site's.

At this point, I'm really not caring anymore. Mauti, whatever you want to do is your decision because you run this, so I'm not going to whine and cry about being reinstated. The fact is that I can live without this BS, and if you want to let Rapid run your BL into the ground then fine, more power to you. But one thing still doesn't make sense to me: how banning us is supposed to keep the league fun. I think that 98% or more of rogue spear players would agree that while Rapid has always brought the game down and made it unfun, *NADS has ALWAYS been good humored and respectful torwards others. I don't go out of my way to insult and debase someone on GR, I never have. When KoS was pressuring Rapid to CB, I told them to knock it off and he didn't have to unless he wanted to. I respected AK as a clan, but now I can join the majority and say that AK is a dishonorable clan that isn't worthy of my alliance anymore. And if you want to remove us from your BL Mauti, fine, but I hope you have acknowledged the fact that you are letting the MOST disrespectful, dishonest, two faced clan stay in the BL and the rest of GR is going to look down upon this BL for your doing so.

and one final note, you mentioned I could leave *NADS and join another clan if I wanted to play in the BL, well I'm going to stick by my clan until the end (which is far away, I assure you) because this is one of the only clans out there that operates as a team of equals, not as a flock of sheep with a facist ruler governing them... and we don't take the game too seriously.  ;D

Cookie that's what I mean instead of suggesting how to handle this issue you go away offended.

My aim is to stop this impersonating because that has nothing to do with the game itself. Also Capt hasn't done anything yet to limit the damage to *NADS nor an explanation or statement that maybe I don't know the full story.

So what I really want is not to ban *NADS. I want this impersonating website removed, an explanation from Anarchy from his point of view and then I can rethink the punishment. Other solutions would be for example that someone other takes the lead of *NADS as CO Leader as long as Anarchy is banned, Capt Anarchy gets banned for the first month of the 2nd season(isn't allowed to cb).

I also don't know why you make this issue to a Rapid against the whole community war. If you would impersonate the AgT site for example and doesn't remove it after a polite request but AgT still feels insulted because of this I would do the same.

Get away from this "I want you something bad" thinking. That's childish. I just have to stop this impersonating and if I can't bring you to stop to impersonate websites and players my last possibility is to ban the creaters and impersonators.

You don't have the right to impersonate Rapid or AK. I think it's wrong - if this stops I'll rethink about my punishment.

It's up to you to change your current situation but as you wrote you don't care. So what cookie then don't complain if you aren't willing to solve this together.

I don't take this game to serious but nevertheless I have to take the worries and problems of some clans and players serious. That's a difference!

You accuse me not to be neutral but I think the problem is that I am neutral and that I am not supporting your behaviour.

For a common future was once the motive of this forum but obviously you, *NADS, let me alone.

Last but not least if I would be a fascist ruler I wouldn't care about your posts in anyway. I think even if Evill would change his way of leading GameRanger you wouldn't notice it because you are to selfish and you concentrate to much on complaining and insulting. What I am doing here with my posts is to try to solve this but all I hear is you are a tyrant, a fascist ruler, omg you really don't get it that I want a solution for both sides...

Deadeye thanks for your response; about the AK site I never got complains about it from other clans so I never thought about it. I#ll think about an impersonating rule. I have to repeat myself that it's not that you can't post your opinion about other clans(even when they are insulting) but I can't agree with impersonating websites, clans or players!

Bye,

Mauti

Mauti, i think Bungholio (capt's brother) said he was gone for a few days.
Also rapid, nj on not reading my post at all. I shoulda expected to hear something from you that involved your usual egtotistical low on vocabulary trite words. When you say that i'm posting soaly to piss you off, i'm posting because nads is a friend of (uNt. Shit, i read that chatlog of what you said to Cookie, and what you said about me in there also and then say how i'm not allowed to post under a private topic in a publich forum. You sit here and talk like a little angel infront of mauti, and whine about your always the victum. While on gr its a completely different case.
"don't argue with dumb people cause they don't know when you've won" or more inportantly respond to a post...
jeb
ps. Rapid Remember when you would ask me to suport you in the forums a while ago???? well that was before i realized what a asshole you could be. you can also go ahead and say that you've "owned me here" rapid, remember that i'm only sticking up for a clan that i'm friends with. something you don't know anything about.

Mauti, that last comment about facism, etc, in no way was geared at you. I was referring to other rogue spear clans and simply stating my reasons for wanting to stick with my own. I don't think you're a fascist at all.. in fact I think you're being quite neutral about this but you're misunderstanding my posts. I'm not accusing you of taking the game too seriously, I'm accusing Rapid of it. Honestly Mauti, if Rapid spoofed *NADS, i'd laugh. Because it's only a GAME CLAN. Game being the operative word here. I acknowledged he was offended but do you really feel the need to babysit his emotions? This whole clan spoof thing should never have been brought to the BL, if Rapid was a true sport he would have solved it the way he's said stuff like this should be solved before: on the battlefield. He calls out people all the time for "disrepecting his clan", so what makes this different? I also really hate the fact that *NADS has always been amenable to CBs and making things fun with AK, but all of the sudden Rapid does a 180 and gets us banned. Thats why im sour about this whole thing. Sorry if it seems like complaining, I'm just putting my two cents in and trying to shed some light on this. If you'd like Mauti, i'll talk with you about this fiasco and perhaps we'll get something worked out. I'm willing to assume the position for Capt if indeed you change the punishment and he allows me, because that seems much fairer than the current action, however I still expect some compliance from Rapid  >:( Otherwise, competition in the ladder doesn't really matter to me because RS is and always has been just a game to me.

And yes, I do think Capt is away, because otherwise this would be flooded with Capt spam  ;)

all this bashing over the time that rogue spear has been out just makes people either leave or play just to beat the shit out of the clan that they hate. Rapid seems to like saying that its only a game, and yes it is. Capt was stupid to put the site up, but as rapid says its only a game and yet he goes and gets NADS banned. Rapid is being a complete hypocrite here.

You guy's type too much mb?  

Hey Rapid, to save your time and others reading your post's, since your position on any subject never change's and everyone of your post's usually express the same idea's, why don't you just save your previous post's, copy and paste them after every other post someone makes?

 Okay, let's start with the post dircetly following mine sence I've not been on the forums for 12 hours... Jeb, you're amazingly stupid on these forums, your saying that random AK deserve to be booted because they support Rapid, that is like a terrorist organization destroying a shooping mall because they are mad at George Bush, He is in charge of the U.S, and we're American citizens, so I guess that they should punish us. - Jeb, that is basically a more "real world" example of what you have said.

Jeb, I really don't care why you think that people hate Rapid, the fact is, that to Rapid, the most important thing on GameRanger is to be able to own everyone at Rogue Spear, and that he can do just fine.

Cookie, you say that *NADS has always been good humored, that may be true, and perhaps it was attempted as a joke the first time, however, they took it to far, they were warned by the battle league not to do this again, and they went right ahead and broke that warning. That is why I support the punishment, they were warned, and they broke it. A rather long post by you, but in terms of actual content, thats about it.

Jeb, the reason that we havn't done somthing in the past that shows sticking up for your friends clan, is because our friends clans are smart enough not to get themselves in trouble.

Deadeye, that immage from the |?K| vs {IAM} time doesn't violate the rules in anyway, it's just a picture of Crow laying on the ground dead, what *NADS did was to take everything from our site, and change all of it to make it offensive. IAM did a little bit of that with their fake Question and Answer thing. The whole diffrence between that |?K| site that the |AH| site is that the AH site is a clear mock site against |?K|, it intended to be a joke at our expense that we will take offense to. The |?K| site is used as a way to transmit information between AK members as well as to the genral public, over our views and thoughts about matters, if *NADS wants to state what happened and state their opinion on it, on their site, then that is 100% fine, it's not okay to make a mock site changing all of the facts. You state the facts, and your opinion, and nothing more.

We all know that Capt. Had to have a role on getting this site on the web, considering that he was the one who was in controle of it, some punishment will have to be served to him and/or his clan, perhaps if he would come defend himself he could get it reduced, I spent sevral hours making long 2 part posts on the CF issue to get 2 months taken off my ban, if you dislike what Mauti has decided, I sugest that you come on here and make your case as soon as you get back from wherever you are.

-Typhy

Message was too long. Two posts now.

So much to reply too, I'll start at the top.

Mauti,
    You say that we are only banned becaused Rapid takes it personal. Have you READ Rapid's post. He just cussed EVERYONE out, calling us all fucktards, insulting one of the treasured members of our community (Jeb)... It is clear he didn't read, or maybe just can't comprehend half of what's being said. We avoided cussing, namecalling, etc, until he broke out. This hurts me. Maybe AK should be banned from the BL. I mean, you have given them numerous warnings. When will these warnings stop being warnings and actually take affect?

(responding to your post step by step without quotes :) )
It's good Capt's not banned, and yes, he is the leader... Maybe he would post if he could, but he's away currently. OMG, people are calling AK AH!? Have you realized there might be a reason Rapid has so many enemies? I mean, look around Mauti. All you see is nice Rapid, who runs to you when hes in trouble. You haven't actually met the Rapid we all have. After meeting the real AK, how can you not make fun of Rapid. Typhy's cool to me on AIM/MSN, Myst was nice to me on AIM too (even though he quit AK BECAUSE of Rapid). Monk seemed like a nice guy (met him once... He's not ever around) Besides Rapid, their clan would be kicking. Maybe you should actually meet the real Rapid before you chew out the people calling AK AH... ($10 says rapid responds, calls me a fucktard, says im arrogant and i should get the point... and say he owned me)

I agree with you're freedom of speech. This is totally different then a middle finger being waved. We have referred you consistently to the AK site, you have seen the IAM pic where rapid is spelled over his body. How is that not offencive?  It's a pic showeing Rapid owns all the AK. Have you read their news, seen their pics? Come on! This isn't an attack, its a counter attack, its a defence.

More coming... I got a message too long. I've been errored 3 times each with smaller incraments.  Maybe 3 posts will be needed...

Ben

Let us continue,

Look at Bung's post. He talks about how AK is making a site making fun of (unt. You say you want to make the game fun? How can you make the game fun if no ones allowed to taunt, if no ones allowed to defend themselves. Instead, you're just making Rapid a bully who no one can actually defend against, or they'll get banned from the bl, or chewed out.

This site was meant to piss of AK, I admit. Do you know why the site was made?


You say (unt stole AK's gif. How can you SAY THAT. All they did was getting scrolling graphics. They probably we're even thinking about AK when they did it! I really don't wanna get back into the arguement of the gif, but maybe that's one reason people fight you on this. In my mind this post makes you look biased toward AK. Jeb even said he wasn't thinking about AK when he did this, yet you automatically assume he "STOLE" it from AK. I'm sorry, but that's such uber-bs. He stole  gif just as much as I stole my Rogue SPear cd (I bought it at MacWorld... He made it with some program... Is there much of a difference. He didnt wanna copy AK but you assume he does! WTF? I spose its Rapid talking through you again.)

Now comes the post I want you to read from Rapid. I'll help you read it... Here, I'll even quote it for you! (Ok, so I lied about the no quote thing!)


More to come,

Ben

This post was even MODDED. God only knows what other name calling, poo flinging, sarcastic comments he made toward Jeb and NADS... How can you say AK takes offence to our site, but assume Jeb doesn't take offence to this?! You HAVE warned Rapid numberous times, I've seen them, and I've been on the forum about 2 weeks! Granted, he kissed your ass in the end. But Geez, see this, he wants to look good in front of you, but in front of Jeb and NADS, all he does is cuss us out, yell insults... Then says "By the way, great job Mauti"! You just let him do it too. That's the sad thing. How can you say NADS gets banned for a site when Rapid doesn't get banned for this?!

Screw the no using quotes rule... Now to another of your posts...

Again, you haven't seen the real Rapid. The other AK guys are great. I wub my Typhy. But yes, people will say you made the wrong decision. We were provoked. People love their *NADS, except Rapid... I have requested MULTIPLE times you find the cause of why that site went up again. I also request you look into why Rapid is so hated. Trust me, it's not because he thinks he owns, actually, it is...

Heres a constructive idea: Innocent before proven guilty?! It seems like, you, Mauti, are doing the opposite. Have you even looked into why the site was put up in the first place? What about why it was put up the second time. Well, why the hell not? Why not figure out why this is going on instead of just banning NADS and taking Rapid's word for it.

Cookie wasn't referring to you as the dictator Mauti. In fact, I found most of you're rulings fair... Until this recent one.


Maybe that's because we all don't run to you and cry "He's making fun of us" when we see Rapid bashing our clan again. Maybe we try to handle it on our own, and respond in kind. Of course, with our responce comes Rapid crying to you saying "Help me!" If you wanted all of us to send in Rapid bashing us or our clan, you're mailbox would fill up so quickly, it wouldn't even be funny.

Look at the public opinion. Everyone except you Mauti (Who I assume was fed the totality of the story by Rapid. Don't you think Rapid's be a little biased) Typhy (who is Rapid's sidekick because of AK, even if he himself hates Rapid.) And Rapid argue in the favor of Rapid. We have Shade, Flame, EJO, cookie, myself, Jeb, iMat, Tech, Vip3r, Oso, Geek, Pyrex, Yoda, Cossack, Bronto, Pat, and Casper. This is all just on the boards. Neutral posts have been from Deadeye and Infection. Why do you think so many people are against Rapid? Does oublic opinion count for nothing?

On to typhy posts...

How can you not help laugh at this? I'm an ubernoob, I don't try to fight that, but on Rapid's host I was killing him as much as he killed me.


We broke it only when asked too... as it's FUNNY. Yes, jokes... Forgot, non existant with Rapid.


So, our instance of making fun of Rapid violates enough that we be banned for a year in BL, but that picture of Rapid basically saying he owns IAM... That violates nothing. Funny.


We fucking DID! Hence our site. Yet we get BANNED.

Blah,
      Ben

hot damn.

enough of this stuff that makes sense, it's time for some irrelevant jabber!

rapid --------->  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/adminowns.gif) "I love you *DAMN, you guys are so fair and great!!!!"

cookie --------->  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif)

ummm but yeah, i agree with ben on the whole public opinion thing. Mauti, when will you be able to conference next?

Ben, all your actions are unjustifiable and clearly broke Mauti's instructions not to behave in such way.

Funny how you say "We were asked to post it back up", like you didn't have any say so.  All you had to respond is "We can't or we will be banned from BL".  Instead, you choose to do put it back up disregarding the warnings being given to you about such action.

Also, on the IAM incident, I never started nothing with them, they decided to put crappy images on their website, so I simply replied by showing their leader shot up with AK spelled out on him.  Wow, as if I mocked their whole site and advertised the url on GR!  not.

Cry all you want and ask not to be punished.  The fact is, you were warned and you felt above the warning and felt you could get away with what you thought was funny.  Not so funny now.  Especially when I'm not joking around with your clan and I am finding all your unneccesary energy such a waste of time.

Also funny how these people act as if I made their lifes miserable when I have them all on ignore so I don't have to feed into their childish BS!  If I had for example Jeb off ignore, I would hear his daily unneccessary insults that have no effect on me anyway, so I take the time to ignore them and let him grow frustrated on his own.  It worked too since he was part of the making the AH site with a purpose of getting my attention.  It got my attention, now let it bite you in the ass.

Cookie I feel bad for, but not that bad.  When she got back, I told her to please ask  Capt to stop disrespecting our clan by making mock sites and such nonsense.  Her response, "Deal with it".  I dealt with it and now you're mad at the outcome.  If I could've fought fire with fire, you would've all felt ashamed of wearing the tag *NADS.  But restrictions layed down my Mauti prohibited such behavior and I respected that.  Too bad you couldn't.  

So you see, sure you're mad and it's because you got the punishment handed down and not me.  You feel a need to get my attention, and the way you guys go about it, it's simply unacceptable.  Now not only will you learn from this, but all that try to do such non-sense as well.  Hope you got your laughs and hope it was worth it...

Now stop trying to brainwash Mauti into being lenient on a punishment he layed out 23 days ago.  If you didn't want to be punished, you shouldn't have broke the rules/requests. >:(

First I think I'll wait until Capt Anarchy is back and can post or better I can talk with him.

Cookie thanks for your answer and yep I hope we can work this out.

Ben you probably miss my point. First I never said Cunt stole the GIF. Also Rapid was posting bs about the copyrights. I don't want to warm up this issue because that was never one - only a small flame war.

Further we are not discussing why the site was put up. Also we don't discuss Rapid's behaviour here. I had enough troubles with him. Sorry but to discuss this issue I have to stay strict ontopic. We are discussing your ban and website and not AK issues. Blood doesn't justify blood.  You always point at Rapid but also other AKs feel offended by this site because it impersonates the clan.

I can only repeat myself again and again:

For example if you hate me it's ok it's your opinion and I respect this but if you impersonate me and damage my reputation through your behaviour it isn't ok anymore. If you post your opinion about any clan you want on your *NADS site it's ok. That's out of my business: at all clans should be able to handle this on their own as you posted somewhere ago. But the AH site impersonates AK. And with this I have troubles.

Well Capt said he made the site when he annouced the site at the forum. So I think that's proven.

I just want you to stop with  impersonating. I don't want to restrict your freedom of speech only this impersonating of clans, players and websites.

With the 2nd season I#ll add a rule about impersonating so rule #22 is more detailed.

As I stated I want this website offline or if this site is really only about fun(after reading your post Ben I think this site is much more than only a joke) there would be possibilities to publish it like this.  I think you all know actors that make fun about celebrities. They imitate(impersonate) them. If you think about it whats the difference between them and your website. What's the difference if a bunch of people imitate Evill or a guy that puts on your name goes in the next game and teamkills the whole team.

What's the difference in your opinion?

In my opinion it is obviously that the group of people really wants to make fun and changes their names back after a short time. They doesn't hurt anybody. At maximum they are annoying Evill.
Contrary for the visitor the impersonator is hardly to differ from the real person especially if they don't know the real person. They only see someone with your name teamkilling the whole team. The visitor will think what an asshole. The impersonator damages your reputation. Same with the celebrities. The visitor knows what he is seeing an imitator or the real person.

To sum up: It's a ban for an impersonating website, about how long this ban will really be will be decided once the site is offline and I had the possibility to speak with Capt Anarchy who is responsible for the site!

Why do you always say rapid is the best? i mean i'll admit that he is good, but lastnight he got me 1 time outa something like 10 games. it was using c4, in once of the worst camping spots ever he promptly died after he got me. I didn't even see him get more than 1 kill per game that entire night, and my team was filled with noobs (cossack being a aception). Are you willing to say that Rapid is better than Rob, Oso, ult, gorf and BB. Looking at this from a objective standpoint you won't be the "best clan ever" like you've claimed so much untill you can beat kos. Looking on your website under the "screenshots section"(http://homepage.mac.com/akrapid/screenshots.html (http://homepage.mac.com/akrapid/screenshots.html)). i see nothing but snide remarks about Crow, Ultimo, Dest. btw nice 5 kill owns (hahahaha). First off, were on any other clan's website is such disrespect shown? secondly, how can the "best RS player" only have a few 5 kill owns? its hardly a challenge getting 6, most people won't even take screenshots at 5.

Mauti, I thought it was just a problem with your word choice (since your english while great isn't perfect, and I try not to get hung up on details), but after your last big post there, I see it's not that.

I have a problem considering the AH site an impersonation of AK.  It is a mock.  A satire.  But to be an impersonation, they would have to expect people to mistake them for AK.  They would have to intend people to think that really was Rapid and company posting.  In my opinion, I don't think that was the intention at all.  It was mocking, I can see how it could be insulting to members of AK, and yes, it probably crossed the line of how clans should act.  But I can't agree that it was impersonating.

So, if it was just mocking gone too far, that goes back to the respect between clans and players that Deadeye was talking about.  If a clan is smearing another clans name, there has to be a line drawn for what is going too far.  Sure, everybody is competative, or they wouldn't be playing so much or care about the Battle League.  But there is a time when it goes too far.  That's what really needs to be defined.

I don't think you are doing anything wrong, I just don't think you are judging NADS correctly.  If it's done correctly, I think it will go a long way to keeping any of this from happening again.

Rapid and Typhy, the AK site comes off as insulting too.  Just not as insulting.  And that Dead posted is as clear of a mock as any single thing on the AH site.  Don't forget where it encourages your members to TK players from other clans (like IAM) on your site too.  That is also a lack of respect between clans.  What you two are doing is arguing the letter of the law.  I am talking about the spirit of the law.  Deadeye was talking about defining the law.

 In a few minutes I will respond to the other posts, I want to start by commenting on yours Jeb, I saw Rapid put up a score of 4-6 against me, ( I won ), in a 1v1. Rapid has slightly better teamwork skills than me, also all games were on my host, I can beat Rob, Oso, gorf etc. And I am pretty damn sure that Rapid can too.

First of all, when you told me about the site, my reply was FAR from being "deal with it". I said i'd talk to him about it and i was sorry if you were offended, but i couldn't make an absolute guarantee because it was his choice and not mine. Capt took the site down, and at the request of another unnamed he or someone else uploaded it (it is unclear to me at this point) and I get punished along with other innocent clan members. You make it seem like all the *NADS are responsible for this Rapid, when Bio, bronto, justin, souljah, des, and I had no part in this and no control over it, and thats why what you did was a lame thing to do. You could have just asked that Capt be punished, but no, you had to take down my whole clan just so you could preserve the honor that your clan doesn't have. I'm sorry, but whatever you say here trying to defend your actions isn't going to save you any face or get you any leeway in the eyes of the RS community. So Rapid, keep talking, but you've dug your own grave. Actually, I think you dug it a long time ago.

Secondly, Buccaneer had a good point. Capt wasn't impersonating AK, he was spoofing them. The two are so obviously dissimilar it shouldn't even be considered to be any form of impersonation. Also, correct me if im wrong, but upon examination of the two sites i have concluded that no AK images were stolen, only the style was copied by Capt. If none of the original AK content exists on the site, they have no room to claim impersonation. And what kind of noob would take that AH site to be the actual AK site? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif)
Thirdly, thank you Mauti for your cooperation.... I hope we can come to a better solution!

 I really do have far better things to do than this, I just really can't help myself.

First off, starting right from the top this time with you Bucc - You comment on the fact that be an impersonation it would have to be intended to make people think that is the real site, that may be true on parts of it, but the fact that he used the same AK banner etc. from our site makes it an impersonation of our site, for example, the Evill impersonators, they don't expect people to belive that there are 24 or whatever the number was Evill's, but that's still impersonation if they're wearing the Evill name. It is true that sence none of our correct names are mentioned and the clan name is changed, it is not a direct impersonation of our site, however, in copying the whole layout of the site, banners etc, and taking battles that we did, and in most cases reversing the score to show us losing is a case of impersonation of a site. Please refer to my explaination on one of my earlier posts about the IAM thing, Rapid and a few others use the method of TKing people as a way to get revenge for things that they've said/done in the past to them, I am of the group of people that says shut up and bring it in RS, I do not take part in TKing people intentionaly etc. But thats how Rapid and some others go about getting revenge against people who won't bring it in the battle league, but want to just sit back and talk crap.

Jeb, personaly, I take screen shots of nothing less than 7. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that there are about 20 of Rapid's ownage pictures, I do belive that I only have 1 there and it's of a nice 6 kill at Amazon. - The reason for this, is I don't think that it's all that impressive to be able to take out tons of people in a normal game, thats just killing weak oponents, to really show skill, I think that you need better compitition, I know that Rapid understands this too, and he has proven himself as someone who can take on good oponents. He just likes to post screen shots there, and thats 100% fine.

Ben, I said that it's okay to state the facts and your opinion though your own site, please tell me how making up crap like loosing to SW is stating facts. Also, you say again that Mauti should look into why the site went back up on the net, this really doesn't matter, a few of you say that someone else put it there, well, Anarchy was the one who had the site, he would've had to give it to them or put it up himself, no matter how you figure it, for that site to get up on the net, Anarchy had to be involved. This is the same thing that everyone does ( yes, you can include myself in this ), it's all fair, unless it's against them, then it's unfair. You say that maybe AK should be ban from the battle league... uh, whatever, we got this crap late in the last battle league, what the hell is up with this "warning" crap? AK has never recived a warning and that is beacuse we have never broken a Battle League rule!

I find it very odd how whenever I am on Rapid's host, he seems to get on average 2 kills a game, but often 3-5, but yet everyone says that they kill him the same ammount as he kills them... somthings not quite right here, Rapid is almost as good of a player as me in 1v1s, and has slightly better teamwork skills. Overall, we're very close in terms of skill, Ben, I hate to have to put it like this, but I own you. And so does Rapid.

As I look at this, I see that Anarchy was wrong in putting the site up, oh well, he got warned and told to take it down, good, everything is fine, and then Anarchy violated the warning by putting it up again, thats what you don't understand, Anarchy isn't in trouble really for putting the site up, he is in trouble for violating his warning, therfor, the argument shouldn't even be over wether the site violate the battle league rules, it should be over how long the punishment should be for disobeying your warning.

I find your list of people who disagree with Capt being ban from the Battle League for a while pretty funny, considering that it has no point, it doesn't matter how many friends that he has who miss him, perhaps he should've thought about that before he got himself into this. There are many people in prison who could make up a whole list of people who want them out, just because your friends disagree with your punishment doesn't mean that you didn't commit the crime.

-Typhy
 

This time only 2 posts are required.

First, Mauti, Bucc said what i would have started with. How is this impersonation? Impersonating would actually claiming you are AK or being mistaken for them! Did anyone actually think WE WERE AK!? Come on. These quite a difference. It's mockery, it's a joke, call it that.

Well, Rapid, it was Snake's instructions to take it down or we "MIGHT" get banned. Not mauti who told us we WOULD get banned. All I can say to Rapid is fling somethat back in his face...

Nice double negative. I guess you even admit you started it. It wasn't a waste of time, Capt had to brush up on his web design skills actually.


What childish bs did I do? Nothing... Still you ignored me. Yah, thats childish of me. I should have never said "Hi rapid" that one time we actually talked.


Hate to tell you, but we dont want you're attention, hell, we don't care if you have us blocked or not! We needed a laugh, we got a laugh. Call it what you want, but please, do leave me ignored.


Brainwash Mauti. Wow, I could have put in no better terms what we believe you may have done.  There is a fine line between rules and requests. Maybe you should learn it.


Actually, you said "copied". Makes it sound intentional. Here's a direct quote...


If you knew Rapid would react like a bitch when he got his GIF copied, why didn't you jsut shut him up before it all started?


This brings me to an important question. Why the hell aren't we discussing this?! In trials there are differences between self defence and murder. Evidence is helpful. Here I guess its not. You don't care on what grounds we were provoked, you only care that we responded, right? So, by these laws, if someone came up to you, hit you in the face, what would you do? Sit back and do nothing? Hit him back and get exiled out of your home town?  I mean, according to you it doesn't matter if we were provoked. It doesn't matter that it was a defence. It doesn't matter WHY we did it. It doesn't matter that anyone else have done worse then us and gone unpunished.  You're making it sound like what matters is that you and rapid win.

Ben (More to come)

With impersonating website I was refering to the look and feel of the website. However Bucc you are right the problem here is mocking not impersonating. Sorry for this.

So I just wait until Capt is back.

Rapid unfortunaly I can't log in in GameRanger anymore my connection keeps timing out. But I can only say don't do it. In our chat you are crying only for blood but not justice. That aren't my intentions.

I have to find a solution that prevents such problems in the future and as Bucc said very well: If it's done correctly, I think it will go a long way to keeping any of this from happening again.

That is my intention and so should be yours.

Bye,

Mauti

And how do these NOT go hand in hand. The site was making fun of AK. Maybe AK should be discussed. It IS any issue. I don't want to hurt Typhy or Monk. Monk prolly never saw the site, and I bet Typhy laughed at it, or just thought it was gay. Typhy isn't like Rapid, he wouldn't take offence to a joke. It doesn't impersonate anyone or anything. Impersonation would be if we called the site AK. If we got people to think we were AK. No, it was a joke.


I don't hate you.

Why the hell is it ok to post shit about any clan on our site? That would be just as wrong as making a website to make fun of a clan! It's the same exact shit, except ours is for laughs, there's is personal. There's not a clan or person they do not insult on their site. AH is a site owned by Capt on a server of Capt's. No one would ever think AK is AH, so, what is the difference. Please tell me, I mean, Them personally insulting us on their site, or us making a joke out of them on ours.


We know when Capt does it, but what does that prove? How's that a point!? I would iterate that we aren't impersonating... But I'm lazy. Same with your next paragraph. No point in iteration. Actually the rest of your post keeps on saying we impersonated. If you continue to say we impersonated after reading Buccs, mine, and gens posts, Rapid must have brainwashed you, because the Mauti I knew in r6 isn't that stupid. (Only after reading our posts)

Jeb, you're right about Rapid.

Bucc, thanks for pointing that out!(I woulda caught it this post if you didn't)

Typhy, unlikely.

Gens right Mauti. What does this shit have anything to do with Justin, bio, bronto, Gen, DS, and souljah. They had no part in it. Why would you punish the innocent? I wrote the News section, so I admit, I had part. I won't hide from that fact either. Yes, I wrote the news section, and I was cracking up as I did it. (and as I toured the site.) Maybe don't punish those *NADS members. Just me and Capt for now? (Even though I do not understand why Capt and I would be punished anyway. We did nothing more then AK.)

Another long post brought to you by:
                                                           Ben

 I want to know how the hell you ( ben ) manged to read my post and make a 2 page response in 35 seconds... interesting, I am tired of responding for now, in a few hours, I will respond to your post.

Ben, do you support the making of the AH site and the re uploading of it?  If yes why, if no why?

Cookie, Same question.

Alright Typhy and Rapid...turn on your hearing aides...get your sausage sandwhich and sit down...cause you need to listen.

Do you like it when people follow the rules of clans, forums, and servers? When someone sets rules they expect people will be mature and follow them...no matter how shitty they sound. The reason I booted you from my game SO LONG AGO....was because you didnt follow my rules. Plain and simple...live with it.

I believe I've said this before....The only |?K|'s I dislike are you and rapid...and possibly 5150 if he doesnt' stfu. I was very glad to hear that your own clan members tried to get Rapid unseated as clan leader. They have a head on them. Round of applause Myst!!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) And I don't boot other AK members (except for Rapid)...hell I didn't even boot you until you broke the rules. So don't give me bs about booting...I rarely do it.

As for Rapid...Do you have parents?...I'm just wondering if you grew up in Zimbabwe with the gorillas eating nothing but lemur shit. They sure as hell didn't teach you about life. You don't treat others like shit and expect them to be your friend. Do you treat your family like shit? Then don't do it here. It's not wanted. And please leave ?(uNt? alone. We've done nothing but ignore you on GR and yet you still want fights. Think about this....you complain about people hating you and your clan...well think why they dislike you...think why we dislike you...there is a reason.

Maybe if the both of you would stop your complaining and get along with other people....things would work out. Also try not to be little children. This isn't DisneyLand.

Pyrex

oh and one more thing....don't spread your shit on us...that's for your mommy to wipe up....whew...i think your diapers need to be changed.. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)

And yet that should not be punishable at all Typhy? You may not do it, but certainly you should not support it. If you say shut up and brint it in rs, why do you get us banned from the Ladder instead of challenging us to another year in bl?
Oooh 20 pics eh? Wow, how long have you known him? And who was hosting those games? Thats pretty funny right there Typhy. I've played rs for about a month and I bet I've owned 20 times.

Note: IT WAS OUT SITE.
How was I stating a fact? It's a joke site, no one believed you lost to them.
You're so wrong. It does matter why the site went up. That's like saying it doesn't matter why someone killed someone else. I mean, motive is important. Self defence is different then battery.

I'm not referring to Battle League, I'm referring to daily forum life. Mauti told him to stop fighting with Capt how many times alone in the news section. He warned Rapid like 5 times. Yes, warned.

Ben (More coming)

Yes, with more people his host lags worse. I love how you used the example of his host. Anyway, yes.
I played in a straight AK game. Me monk Rapid and Tsunami. Yah, Rapid sucked nuts. I did kill him as much as he killed me. Tsunami owned me, Rapid didn't. And you in no way own me. Yes, you beat me on your host when I was trying out guns like the saw, rpd... I believe I went through the totality of my list of guns. You asked if we were going to actually play for real. I said no, why? Cuz my computer was fucked. I challanged you lately, you said ok, but never actually chose to fight me. Whats with that? Anyway, yes, I admit, you beat me when I played with all the guns I never used before on you're host.


I understand this well, but oh, how you would eat your words if you knew why he put it up. I don't rat people out though.

Yes, you might find it useless. I on the other hand, don't. The reason I brought that up is public opinion., Yes people in jail may have friends who want them out, but this is different. This is practically everyone but AK members wanting him out. You see the difference. I bet in the US if the whole public screamed at the president except for like 10% that an innocent man should go free, the president would agree. Public opnion matters. By the way, yes, he is innocent.

By the way, Mauti, even Typhy knows that Capt is working on other sites. Look at this.

aktyphy:   His next spoof site, do you know about it?
aktyphy:   Has he told you about darn?
Ben EM IG:   who
Ben EM IG:   Capt?
aktyphy:   Yeah

Typhy calls it a spoof site. He calls it a JOKE site. An AK calls what Capt is doing "spoof". Yes, DAMN is the next spoof. He was making a site named *DARN. So, yes, it is a joke. Too bad Rapid can't take it as one.


Ben

Who is talking to you pyrex?

I have not only you, but jeb and bigpat on ignore, so I don't pick any fights with you, nor do I care to.  You pick your own fights and try to act innocent.  I have no problem ignoring you fools and will continue to do so.  Keep trying to start fights, and just keep showing all your negative unneccessary energy being used for no reason.  I can't be bugging you when I don't talk to you, don't play with you, don't hear anything you say(since you're on ignore), and you don't play in my games, so keep trying to throw coals in the fire.  You'll be the only one that gets burned in the end...

 Pyrex, after that game I said that I was really sorry, I was on the phone and trying to eat and not paying very much attention. - The fact is, that I joined your name under random AK names, |?K| Deadlock, |?K| Soccerfreak and |?K| Lakers suck. And you booted them all, I then joined under the name "Owner", to be sure that there was not some reason that you were booting besides the fact that I was AK, and you let me play under that name. Aparently Ben has posted more, I will respond to that momentarily.

Simple answer. Wasn't your post. You're post were the 2 after that :). More like 20 minutes. I still wub you though.. Err wait, we're on the forums... Die!!! Bah, I better transfer to AIM so I can wub you!

Ben EM IG:   wub you!
Ben EM IG:   wuuuuub yooooou
aktyphy:   lol
Ben EM IG:   sniff. you dont wub me
Ben EM IG:   i wub you tho
aktyphy:   Of course I wub you Ben


(Just wanna make sure everyone knows I wub typhy... Rapid... No! Typhy, yes!)

There. Much better.

Hey Py! Wub you too! Nice post.

Back to buisness, to Rapid's post.


Rapid, take the world as it is today. Now, remove all humor from it. See how different it would be? Wars would be taking place all over the globe, depression would settle in without relief. People need humor. Now, what capt and I did was supposed to be funny. We found it very funny as a matter of fact, as did several others. I never said I supported the re-uploading of it, I said I knew about it. Actually, I told Capt he was pressing his luck. He openned it up though, under the order of someone else. You took offence to it for some reason. But yes, I supported its openning for laughs. The world, without humor, would be horrible indeed.

Ben

Typhy...I have a very good memory and I don't remember any of those names...You probably joined psyks..not mine. Plus I'd know if you iped joined me and you didn't...so stfu.

As for Rapid...You may have shut up on GR but you haven't shut up on the forums. Times ticking Rapid and soon that "fire" will be searing more than ass hairs...Mauti's fed up with you....Assassin's fed up with you...Brain's fed up with you...GR (including Evill) is fed up with you....So keep shoveling Rapid and expect that huge pile of shit to topple and bury you.

Jeb...Let's Dance!!!  I wub you too BEN!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

Thanks for adding me in in the mod... :)

Hey sk. Welcome! I agree with SK, I was blocked from Rapid for no one knows what reason. I met him once, played on his host, was nice, then was ignored... no clue why

Ben

UM, WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?1?

First of all, I respect *DAMN and all they have done for the R6/RS community. Thank you for that. But, this is totally stupid!
If someone wants to do an spoof of someone, or on a clan, whatever it is. Then they have the right to do so. Its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
Rapid and Typhy, its so ridiculous for you guys to get mad about it and go crying to Mauti, take it as a joke, laugh it off and settle the hell down. Why take the humor away, thats all it was...HUMOR! Take this fucking game way to seriously. Besides, so called Impersonation is a form of flattery...geezus guys.

And to Mauti and the *DAMN staff: You guys dont have any right to impose any sanctions against anyone for making a site that is a spinoff. Why cant you just laugh at it as well, and say oh well good humor. Im sorry but I have to speak out against you on this, I think it was totally unfair of you to try and punish, or threaten to punish anyone for making a humorous website. This had nothing to do with *DAMN at all, so how can you try and be the RS Police as well, dont start running a dictatorship form of *DAMN, for if you do it could backfire.

I just think this is so stupid, its like telling a comedian he cant do impersonations of other people, or make fun of someone in the audience.
Lighten up people and bring some fun into the game, and Capt., dont let people tell you what to do, if you want to make a site, you have the right to do so, you dont have to get the OK from DAMN or anybody else. FREEDOM GODDAMNIT, DONT TRY AND TAKE IT AWAY!

And no, I could give a shit if someone made a mockery of me, if it was funny enough I would laugh. If it was stupid I would say so, but I sure wouldnt go crying to anybody about it.

Whatever yall......Kilzo

Ben, your whole clan got put on ignore after Capt put up that site to insult us, not to make a joke, but to insult us all using our names(5150). I don't feel bad that I put you on ignore neither as you have openly admitted on contributing to the making of that site anyways.  I put you on ignore with good cause.  Too bad you feel so innocent and try to act it.

SK, you're pathetic!  Listen to you!  Come in and insult me here on a daily, and you wonder why I have you on ignore and don't want to talk to you?  I don't want to talk to you and don't care to what you have to say.  You're everything you say I am simply by the way you act!  That's only obvious!  How does Mauti put up with you anyways...

Also ben, you mention "It's only a Joke!  Too bad Rapid can't take one.".   I clearly told Capt I didnt find that funny and I felt offended and wanted that site to be brought down.  After he thought it was funny that I got mad, he decided to tell me to fuck off and he's keeping the site up.  So not at one time was this a joke, for it takes both parties to take it as one for it to be one.  Lucky that I didn't stoop to your level and insult you back with a mock site of your clan, for that would've gotten me and my clan in trouble like Mauti warned both of us.  Too bad you think you can come in here and "justify" the 2nd uploading of the site with no results, other than you're wrong.  You got what you deserved and probably should've gotten it worse, so stop acting innocent.

For fucks sake Rapid...that site is what you deserved. I'm glad Capt. had the nads to make it and let everyone see his supreme assing. As for banning them from the BL....that's stupidity in its ultimate form. Mauti...I have a lot of respect for you because you try to provide a fun environment for people to play...but when someone makes a mockery of another clan...that's no reason to ban them. If its because Bondo was offended by the material...so what?...if you have an attraction to the same sex...keep it in your own bedroom. If something offends you...you may speak out about it but I can assure you that most won't agree. Capt. had every right to make that site and you had no right to ban *NADS.

I agree whole heartedly with you Pyrex!

Admin Plz Do Not Delete This Post Again, Many Others Are Doing The Same I Am.

Mauti you told me to slim down on the rapid bashing but i have to get into this one
Rapid jesus fucking christ i have tried to get to talk to you about 50 times i tell people to message him and tell him to unblock SK so that he can talk to you. Than the person that i asked to relay that message posts something like "|?K| Rapid: I dont want to hear his newbie words of wisdom" so i give up for that day

Rapid the point is that you are the one that is picking the fights.


once again rapid plz stop talking about you and your inncocents your not einnocent because its your cocky ass douchecake dykeface peniseating pigfucker dykewhore that started this whole problem just stfu and leave gr so RS community will be fun instead of this political fuck that it has turned in to.

*DAMN Silent Killer

Wow. I thought you only had 4 (unts on ignore, but now you admit you have the (cunts, NADS and even some DAMN... Wow. A bit different then what you said. Yes, I openly admit that I helped in the site. And? How can you be guilty of a spoof. Your own clan calls it a spoof. This is like people suing Saturday Night Live for cracking a joke about George Bush.

Nice, Insult DAMN Members. I find it funny you ask how Mauti puts up with him. When will your complaints stop? You complained about KoS cb, you complain about the spoof site, you complain that other people make fun of you. How does Mauti put up with you. How does he put up with any of of us for that matter?!

Actually, no, thats not a what a joke is. A joke is a group of people finding something said or shown to them humorous. That doesn't mean you have to find it funny for it to be a joke. He told you to fuck off, eh? Was this before or after you cussed him out. Wait, it was after, you cussed him out, calling him a fucking bitch, and telling him he should do what you say before he made the site. My bad.

How am I fucking lucky? If you made fun of NADS I mighta laughed if it was funny. If it was dumb I'd say "Dude. Thats dumb" That'd be the end of it. Yah, I'm sooooo lucky. I dodged a bullet there. I mean, oooh. If you made a site about a clan named "NADS" I coulda just died crying.

Now you listen. I am innocent unless if making a spoof site or telling a joke is now illegal on the DAMN forums, and truthfully, if making a joke is illegal on the DAMN forums, I would not want to be here. I got what I "Deserved". I believe I did actually. Several people told Capt it was a great site, it was hella funny. Yes, the joke got what it deserved, that is, till you ran to Mauti. Mauti told Snake to tell us that if we didn't take it off we "might" get banned. We took it off. Then someone told us to put it back up. Again, we put it up. All this is just a single joke being blown way out of control by Rapid.

Ben

OMG STOP DELETEING MY POSTS EVERYONE ELCE IS POSTING THE SAME THINGS I AM

where to start...
I don't start fights with you, your bs causes me to. That whole bullshit about Me having a sidescrolling gif  and it copying your style was bullshit, it took close to 2 hours of debate for you to admit that you were wrong. Pyrex essentialy does the exact same thing typhy does, only he knows more dirty words. WTF has BIGPAT EVER SAID TO YOU, h e doesn't even care about gr and the drama you bring to it.

i started this fight how???? Your bitching about having a style that was copied is the reason capt made the site. you think your hot shit cause you design tags on clothing, woopty fucking doo, anyone can scribble out something quickly that is hard to read.
Your pleeding your case to mauti as if the whole world is against you, and its true, the gameranger community hates you, but your not the innocent victum you make yourself out to be. i'd say 50% of gameranger hates you, and the other 50% doesn't know who you are.

The only thing about me being on your ignore list is that i can't adress the BULLSHIT and Trash talk you say on gr. Frankly the thought of playing on your laggy, and slow server is revolting.
And plz tell me how we will be burned in the end? You can talk about how you (typhy and 5150) owned me in a cb 9 months ago all you want because i know you will. You can talk about how you c4ed me lastnight also.
do you really think i give a shit about who beat who in a cb? i'm posting against you because more often than not, your the root of bs on gr. You take the fun out of a game, that so many of us enjoy. Whenever the phrase "<|?K| Rapid has connected>" flashes across the top of the screen in a game, there the fun will be disrupted at least untill the host boots rapid for intentional tks. then of course it will be followed up by him rejoining dozens of times disrupting gameplay.

I'm pretty sure that rapid will laugh this off and deny the truth that everyone hates him for who he is. and tell me how "wrong" i am and how he will "fight fire with fire" maybe even using the term "<HUMP>" or "AGRESSIVE PLAYING STYLE" or even "you suck farmer." I also bet he will say that my atempts of disproving his "angelic" ways will go largly unnoticed, if he does i'd just say now "its easy to not notice things when you don't know how to read rapid" or even respond to a post, but i'm sure typhy might try something like that.
Well at least any other person who has seen rapid's bs action and  has a 4th grade reading level will get what i mean.
Say what you want rapid, we are all laughing at how dumb you are.
jeb
ps. "Never argue with fools, they don't know when you win."

Kilzo (and a few others).  What Mauti is doing here doesn't really fall under anybody's freedom, or the lack thereof.  The DAMN site and Battle League are not the public domain.  They are private.  They are DAMN's.  What Mauti is doing is setting a standard of behavior if you want to enter his world.  Just like "no  shirt, now shoes, no service" or having to wear a jacket and tie at a 5 star resturant.  If you don't want to meet the standards, you don't have to go.  

Mauti just needs to define those standards and publish them, so everyone knows.  And he knows this (said it in his last post).  So give him the chance to do so.

I can't blame him for wanting these standards.  I wouldn't want to hear all the bickering and fighting that goes on everyday.  

If it really helps, think of this as an "unsportsmanlike conduct" rule.  You can't spit on another player, or call the ref a cock sucker.  The DAMN Battle League is just setting up it's own rule and standard.  And if that includes web sites or hate mail or whatever they want, it's up to them because it's their site and league.  That's the only thing I'm agreeing with in this whole thread.  Having a sense of humor is a good thing.  Showing respect for others is also a very good thing.

Yeah It's kinda funny becuase I almost never to talk to Rapid on GR and rarely post on the *DAMN forums.  I dont really care about Rapid's bullshit though.  All I know is to stay the hell away from him and everything he stands for, so it probably works out better that he has me on ignore.

Bigpat

i couldn't agree more (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)
someone get the fire extinguiser, because my fire was fought with fire, bahahahahahahahahahahaha
whoever did that needs a role model, cause i woulda said it like this
"i can't believe how much i suck at rs, i get owned by rapid every time i try to play against him on his low pinging, and fast server. its really sad that i he beats me fairly every time i mouth off. and typhy's skills would far surpass mine because he gave a good effort when he 1v1ed capt anarchy, and xoclipse. and boy i suck at giving effort, thats probly while i camp so much"
something like that would be much more offensive to me (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/shocked2.gif)

This is a two part answer.
Rapid, before we got banned I didn't support it. I only saw it as one of Capts ventures. Really, I had no clue what was going on the first time the site was put up and I had no idea it got reuploaded until yesterday... so I can't really say I supported it. However now I think  i can say that I do (however not being involved), because it's freedom of speech and whatnot, and freedom of speech is what I'm trying to defend here.

Also Rapid, I wholeheartedly invite you to spoof *NADS. If you think you can make us "ashamed to wear the tag" then I say take your best shot and you have my "permission", because you know what? I can take a joke  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif)

Hmmmmm I can only imagine who posted as Jeb.....Maybe the two people here who dislike him....WHO COULD THAT BE??? **GASP** Rapid and Typhy?...OMG..NEVER...BAHAHAHAHAHAHA....Rapid or Typhy...whoever posted that...you're one badass noob...You know how to impersonate...something just weeks before you disliked and complained about...hmmm I label you the jackasses of hypocracy...

Rapid when Typhy comes over horny ------>  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

Typhy when Rapid gets a 3 kill ownage ss ---->  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/shocked2.gif)

Me when Rapid and typhy are playing in a game im in ------>  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/sleeping.gif)

Rapid and Typhy on Saturday nights -----> (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_bluh.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)  :o

Too bad that IP's of the people can be seen and it will show that it was neither me or typhy.

But good try at framing us once again...

We can stick up for ourselves and don't need to make fun of you in the process.  It is quite easy and it takes no energy when you guys present yourselfs so poorly.  We'll leave you fools to do the "making fun of people" since you're so obsessed with it.

So keep trying to make us look bad and saying pathetic stuff Pyrex, it only fits your character and the way you present yourself...

nice use of smilies pyrex,
what that means is this, typhy posts about things when he isn't the poster's intended audience is. usualy typhy is rather serious (acually all the time). while pyrex does the same, only in a light hearted and more offensive manner ;)
jeb
is that a  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) in your pocket or you happy to see me?

I wub you jeb...and yes im happy to see you  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

For Rapid....How have I framed you before?...Please tell me what it is I've done to frame you...I'm sure it will be some lameass fantasy dreamt up in that llama crap patty of a brain you have....As for making fun of people....It's all in good fun...Everyone gets a laugh and its over with...As for you and typhy, we've discovered that you can't take a joke...But that doesn't mean we will stop making fun of you...

It's  kind of funny how you want to make me look like the bad guy for making those smilies when in like 3689 of your deleted posts you did the same thing....Again..A jackass of hypocracy.....oh and yes please leave the making fun of people to us...we do it a shitload better than you or your ass pal typhy...

Last thing....YOu want to criticize how I present myself?....How about you look back on all your posts and see how you presented yourself?...I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about...SHAME SHAME SHAME...I think I hear Typhy calling... you better hurry before his hole gets cold.. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

LOL,i don't know the bs in the post cuz i haven't read it. but, funny how it seems rapid and typhy are always in the long bs threads.

but,lol with jebs little side post...

Bucaneer, I agree that Mauti has the authority to run his BL the way he sees fit, thats not the problem here. He can make any rules he wants regarding his BL and the behavior that will be tolerated within his domain. What is wrong with this picture is the fact that peoples websites are in no way affiliated with *DAMN or the BL. They are also private domains in which others should have the right to freely post and do as they choose without having to worry about getting punished for it. If a clan wants to run a spoof, or even make fun of another clan, then that in no way has any involvment with the BL. It is a personal objective and should be treated as such. That would be like me running a porn site, and if *DAMN was against porn, would they then have the right to ban me from the BL based on their personal opinions? Sure they would, but it would be totally unfair and biased. And if thats the way *DAMN chooses to operate, I would find that to be predjudice ( and not racist for you people that dont know the difference ).

So you tell me, is this fair behavior? I think not. Can I open a bar and not let certain people in because thats the way I choose to do things? Nope I couldnt ( nor would I ), its all relative. So you see, it is a form of opression, trying to control what others do with their lives just so they fit into what you want should not be tolerated. Now, if *NADS were to fully impersonate ?K and try to trick people into believing it was them to ruin or damage them, then yes, Mauti would have full warranted authority to take action within the BL. But this has nothing to do with the BL, it has to do with actions away from the BL, on peoples free time and websites.

Kilzo

rapid, if you weren't such a photoshop and html noob i might invite you to make a spoof on our site.
http://homepage.mac.com/farmerjeb/cunt/index.html
i'd like to see how you'd improve on that grand clansite.
most people think its gay enough now, but i'm sure you could find a way to make it gayer.
jeb

Whoever made the fake post on Jeb should fess up now before we find out who it is...you see the thing in the lower right where it has a picture of a globe with an arrow pointing to it and says logged? That my friend contains your IP address.

As for the issue at hand, all of you should stand back and wait until Mauti can talk to Capt. Anarchy...once a final decision has been made, then you are all entitled to your opinions (however stupid or brilliant they may be) again. Right now, just lay off and stop turning this into a shit flinging contest.

yeah ass, i've really lost intrest in this, plus i had nothing to do today so we will all wait and see when capt gets back...
btw
 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

Ahhhhh yes wise one....but the real question is...

Who throws the bigger piles??  ???

OK, Rapid, stfu cause you are always wrong.  Seriously how old is he anyway?  That site was as funny as hell, and hell is a very funny place.  rapid you can't take a joke, or tell one.  I think you should invest in the career choice of suicide.  Please die and rid us of your puny and annoying existence.

Actually, yes, you can.  Plenty of bars have dress codes so that you can't walk into them in jeans and a dirty t-shirt.  Every bar I've ever been in has a sign saying that "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".  There are clubs for just the people 6' and taller, clubs for just the rich.  There's even a club for just smart people (MENSA).  The DAMN BL falls into these types of groups.  

If you were convicted of a sex offense like rape, you better bet your ass that many clubs would revoke your membership if they found out.  And that's their right, because there would be rules in the small print when you joined.  

I'll put it bluntly.  DAMN has the right (and it's not a bad thing) to say "you are just too much of an asshole for us".  And not let you in the league.  It's a good thing because they want to keep the bull out of the league.  All I was asking for was for them to define what would make anyone that much of an asshole.  And now I'll wait until they do.  As long as the rule is defined, and they warn people, I think it's not only their right, but it's a good thing.  And like any other place in the world.  If I don't like their rules or attitudes, I wont go there.  

Predjudice and discrimination aren't always bad words.  Having discriminating taste is a good thing.  And most of the people here are predjudiced against PC's and Microsoft.  So you are right, it is predjudical behavior.  But that's not a bad thing in all cases.

 *Sigh* The things that we have to put up with... I notice a trend in my 1v1s, I lose when I use my powerbook, Jeb, either shut up, or bring it at RS, you don't want to battle AK, fine, 1v1, anytime. I would like to say though, that the "Jeb" person is a dumbass, going by his email adress, I would asume that he did post his real one, as much as I dislike Jeb, I dislike impersonation far more, yes, I know the person who posted that. Pyrex, you are really an idiot aren't you?

Let's check our some posts rather than just skimming through them, first off Wombat! - Stupid, slightly offensive twards Rapid, but mostly just stupid. Sin, not only do I know who made that post, I know whos going to get blamed for it, and that person is me, considering that I live only a few miles away from the person who posted it. Pyrex, you're stupidity is just amazing, go figure that it would be (unt and *NADS against |?K| for this mostly. Rapid and myself do have lives outside of this, perhaps you guys could slow down the rate in which you're posting replies so that we can actually go get a bite to eat between posts.

Pyrex, you again say that it was just a joke, I really don't consider making a whole spoof of our site designed to have a few laughs at our expense very funny, you guys may, I must admitt, had it been a spoof of the (unt site instead of ours, I probaly would have, I'm pretty sure that if we made a spoof of your site, you would take offense. Pyrex, the whole thing here is that Capt didn't know when to stop, after he had been warned by the battle league, he should've let it go, he could've considered himself the winner sence he got his laughs and got out with no punishment, but he had to put it back up again, and he got caught out and got what he deserves.

Go figure that Pyrex would resolve to making stupid insults, what a newbie. - My clan stands for being able to own at Rogue Spear, and that is the same with me, bring your ass out in a 1v1, or better yet, a cb. Or at least take the time to make a post that uses logic and facts rather than random brainless insults. As for the post by another poor excuse for a human being ( Rob ), I actually don't really belong here, this thread doesn't really effect me, other than the fact that it was a spoof of my clans site. If this was in the Battle League, I wouldn't be posting on it, but since it's here in Genral Gossip, I think that there is no reason not to get invloved.

Actually Rapid, you say that it will prove it is not me or you, actually, going by the location, it will look as if it's me, but I will say this now, my current IP is: 66.58.163.43, you will find that is not the IP that the post was made by since I know that I didn't make that post, and I know that no one else did on my machine since I was not logged out when I returned to my machine after soccer. Cookie, you give us permission to spoof *NADS? Thats not how it works, diffrent people take offense to diffrent things, |?K| is a clan to play and be the best that we can at Rogue Spear, so when someone makes a site like that showing fake losses etc, we do take offense to it. Where as, *NADS is a clan out there to have fun in a diffrent kind of way, what is fun to us is winning battles etc. We just have diffrent ideas of what "fun" is in terms of the Rogue Spear/Rainbow Six world.

At this point, I would seriously consider putting the whole (unt clan on ignore if I was on GameRanger, it seems that every few weeks I will see a new one of them be stupid, I guess thats just part of what they consider "fun" in that clan. - This comment is refering to BigPat's post.

Ben, ever heard the term "What is said in private should stay in private"? Well, I said that to you through private messanges, just would like to say, that I really don't like what I said in private messages being posted on the forums without my permission, Ben and I are in good on AIM, as are I and Jeb, both cool people there, but I hate their guts on the forum. Back to you Pyrex, yes, I am sure that it was yours, Psyks is very good, a good RS player and a cool guy, complete oposite of you.

Interesting how Kilzo changed after we made it clear that he's not getting back into AK, from posting on ours boards, saying that he was really sorry, and that he was still an Aggressive Killer even without the tag, Kilzo, I like you still, but at your current pace, not for much longer. Looking at SK's post, a very typical post by SK, shows a very poor grasp on the English language, and a lot of stupidity. Pyrex, you read my fucking post, I said that Capt's making that post was semi okay, but his violating the warning that he was issued by the battle league was unaceptable, he's not in trouble again for making the site, he's in trouble for violating his warning and putting up against.

-Typhy  

OMG Bucc. You're so sexy during speech and debate.

Ben

Well Buc, you seem to be an intellectual person who has some reason behind his statements. I just cant believe you dont see the point Im trying to make. I wont try and explain it any further since it would be wasted time. But the fact is, its not the right of DAMN to place judgement on peoples behavior outside of the BL. Thats free game.

Anyways, take care...Kilzo

 Kilzo, in the Battle League rules, it says that they have the right to punish any clan or player who acts unacpetably, refer to the battle league rules for the actual wording, because of this, the battle league has the right to boot Anarchy and ban *NADS, the reason for this is because their behavior was unaceptable and the offense was against another clan in the Battle League.

-Typhy

Kilzo, I see your point, I just disagree with it.  That's all.  I think that if the DAMN Clan want to have a "no assholes allowed" policy, that's find and good, as long as everyone knows how to act.  But it always cuts both ways.  That may mean some clans wont be in the DAMN BL anymore because they don't like that kind of rule.  That's good too.  DAMN will be happy because things will be more civil here, and the other clans can find someplace more to the way they like things (this is pretty much the same argument for people that don't like how Evill handles GameRanger.  As long as it's free, you shouldn't be bitching too much, you should go someplace you like more.  If you can't find that place, make it or work to make it better.)

Ben, don't make me shave my ass for you.

Typhy said it perfect.  I agree 200% with him.  

Kilzo, this is a private league ran by respectable old players.  They are trying to push that attitude to all clans out there and it's why they told us newbie clans(We don't compare to their time of existance, us 11 months, them 27 months) to calm down and show respect for each other by not spoofing and trying to ruin another clan's reputation by making outside websites!  I don't know if you have read throughly this situation, but if you would have, you definately wouldn't have missed that point Mauti made clear.  I respect that and see the logic behind it and it's why you didn't see me post a spoof site disrespecting other clans(Especially when I had more reason than ever!).  Now sure they are mad now because the punishment was handed down as warned, and they thought they could throw a freedom of speech defense, which in this case doesn't apply and has been explained by Buccaneer.  I for surely understand respect and it's why I know how to avoid it.  When characters like Jeb, Pyrex and a few of his followers come in trying to present a scenario, they are so bulgarant and abnoxious that is only clear on their whole purpose.  It's why it shouldn't surprise you that Jeb was involved in making that spoof site.  My point is, while I obviously avoid these problem children by ignoring them, they have to get "louder" to be heard by making stuff like a spoof site.  They don't caree about rules as long as they're being heard and stick together.  Well, this isn't greenpeace coming in here, these are kids taking personal attacks that I have many times disapproved off, and continue to do  so even after being warned on a clan ban!   Mauti is fair and presents himself with respect and I admire that of him and will follow those ways.  I have many times tried to talk to you people with respect, but all you do is disrespect me.  It's ok because in the end, you loose and I don't.  I am here to stay and let |?K| grow under your skin!  You won't forget us and you won't foget how much you've tried to fight the power of good!  You'll learn one day...  You got nothing on us.  Sorry *NADS, that you got offended that we beat you in CB the 4 times you've tried.  As if that's ground to start making spoof sites and making fun of our bragging rights.  Damn sore losers...

 Good points Rapid, you guys need to realize that there is only so far that you clanmates can go, before you just have to acept the punishment, the place where I earned much respect for Rapid as a leader was on the CF issue, he faught it as far as he could, but when it came down to it, the battle league has the athority to do what they feel is right, and you have to obey it, at the moment, the only one who can defend himself is Capt.

I ask for lackage of the threadage until capt comes back, because truthfully... This is going no where. Moderators, you agree?

Ben

Rapid,
cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.
By saying i "helped build" the AK hate site, is that an atempt to get us kicked out also???? the story behind that was capt asked me to join his game and put some random noob name on and fabricate some sses. Big fuck'n deal, its not like i agreed to and acepted his plans when i did that, i didn't know about the site till a little before he put it up. Keep up the act infront of mauti, and keep up the talk on gr.
Typhy i could give a shit if you want to ignore me, infact its hardly my problem, just hope you got a new person to get ips off, but you won't have to worry about that for much longer...

You forgot the other 500 people who play Rs that hate you just as much.
jeb
ps. sin, i'll give you a big  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)  if you figure out who imitated me.

I suck at clan matters alot. But this is one of the statements that rapid makes. "Making that site in order to ruin our reputation." No offence Rapid, but could ?Ks reputation get any lower? Have you noticed that almost everyone on GR hates you? I have. I see tons of people that hate you and very few that like you. Now this does not give an excuse for Capt Anarchy to put up that site after he was warned. The Austrian Constitution lets Private orginizations do what they want as far as limiting people's speech on their property. This is Mauti and Bander's creation this is their property and they live in Austria, and as far as freedom of speech and press go in this site, consult the Austrian Constitution.

I only want to say more until I spoke with Capt about it.

In the meantime I'll work on a rule about mocking/impersonating/... with my BL admins.

Oh God, I'm still out of breath from laughing (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif) See, once again Rapid you bring up RS crap that's totally unrelative. "oh geez, the reason you're offended is we've beat you 4 times." ROFL.. this is funny because I never gave a damn. We were always good sports about CBs (even when you cheated us out of one) and now you claim we are "offended". Rapid, i could give a rats ass about clanbattles because to base your arguments on rogue spear is PATHETIC! Yes, PATHETIC. Take a few minutes to let that sink in. Anyway, I reaaaaally doubt Capt made that site because he was a "sore loser", I think he just made it because everyone hates your clan and all of GR would get a laugh out of it. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

Typhy, first discrepancy is how you said "fake losses". Yes, the losses were fake, but they were AH losses and not AK. Capt wasn't trying to make anyone believe those we're AK losses so this argument is totally stupid. That pretty much takes out your whole argument, unless you guys were offended by the homosexual content. The whole paragraph you wrote makes no sense, why would our different sense of fun make spoofing us impossible? If you wanted to make us ashamed, spoof something on us that we have fun doing because it works by the same token. Then again, I have the sneaking suspicion you might by covertly admitting that it is VERY hard to get us mad  ;D (unless you get us suspended from the BL for joking around, muahahaa) This might be true, considering that *NADS is a good humored bunch that doesn't take things too seriously unless necessary :) I think this should be what makes a clan, the ability to truly have fun while kicking, or trying to kick, ass. So I invite you, once again, to take your best shot. Rapid, why don't you own up to your threats (notice he didn't respond to my invitation earlier) and make yourself a *NADS spoof site, because I wholeheartedly encourage and reinforce having fun and getting a few laughs in. Because after all, in the words of the great almighty Rapid, "It's a fucken game".

aiiiie, sorry, i had to write that :X it's early and i have nuffin to do :(

Typhy, please get over yourself. I am not challenging ?K in this matter, I am questioning what right *DAMN has in matters outside the BL. Just because I asked to rejoin and you guys said 6 months doesnt mean I am out to get you. I seriously could care less, and that post of my so-called quote from your forums were from a long time ago, Im perfectly happy with what I have going on now, so stfu. And if you start to dislike me bcause I am questioning authority, then you are stupid and I could give a shit. Everything should be challenged and questioned, at least then the answer you get will be well thought out and have reason behind it. I must say I am starting to see things from all sides now. But to just let it go and move on is the best thing here. I agree that Mauti has full authority in the BL, but anything outside of it, is none of his business. Thats not disrespect either Rapid, its my opinion, as we all have the right to one. Maybe I flew off the handle a bit in my first post, thats my bad. But this is such a sticky situation I want to make sure it is handled correctly, and fairly. Anyways, Im out of this one now....not my trouble so theres my 10?

Kilzo

About fun: You said you changed the name however everybody knows that you are pointing at AK and that of course is your intention. One clan sees such sites with humour and another only feels offended. And I think if someone requests to remove the site you should do so.

E.g.: A group of seniors threating a freshman has also fun. They feel strong when they annoy a weak person and did I mention they find it fun. However the freshman only feels offended and if he says stop with it please you should be man enough to stop.

I think if this site would have been made without background feelings even  some AKs would  find this site fun. But Ben as you mentioned this issue has a long story. So they don't see this site as you do.

In resonse to Kilzo:  Although the site doesn't has something to do with the BL it affects the BL and some clans in it.

The AH site makes fun about AK and probably also damages AK's reputation. May some of you say AK has no reputation but imagine if a newbie comes the first time to GR and sees the link to the AH site. Of course he is curious and visits the site. He had a good laugh when he comes back to GR he sees AK Rapid. He will associate AH Raped with AK Rapid and further he will be influenced about AK that they suck, that they are whining,.... It simple damages AK's reputation further it is an unnecessary provocation. I miss sportmenship.

I want to dissociate myself and the BL from such behaviour(kind of transfered competition). The BL is about a game and not about to start flame wars with each other.  Kilzo so I think it has something to do with the BL. The BL wants a fair competition between clans. That doesn't mean you have to like some all clans but you have to follow some rules if you want to be a part of this competition. Capt as well as Rapid has been warned that they are going to far.


I hope Capt is coming back soon.

Bye,

Mauti

i am not sure if anyone said this or not but, there is no excuse for a leader of a clan to act like that let alone twice, mb a chobo newb but a leader, TWICE? meh
-c0w

Rapid, don't get too far up that high horse you seem to be on.  My comments apply to your web site as well.  After the AH site, the real AK site is probably the most disrespectful to other clans out of all the ones I've seen.  I could be wrong, there may be another bad one out there, but you are seriously casting stones while living in a glass house.  If you can justify your bashing on other clans with your web site, then anyone else can too.  

Kilzo, I didn't lose any respect for you in our exchanges, just to let you know.  You stated your opinion and listened to mine.  You showed respect and I give it back openly.  Disrespect is an attitude, not an opinion, and lots of people just don't know that.  So don't worry about them.  I disagree with you, but I still respect both your opinion and how you presented it.

Rapid... No... We lost 1 cb in a 2 on 1. I mean, you guys had 2 players, and we had one... And we STILL almost won. Wow, that's something to brag about right there!

Would you like offencive?

Mauti:
"We just got in a beautiful shot of *R?p!d?* Slaughtering the good old geek"

"* March 11th * {IAM} TheCrow is now resorting to Nerdy Humor."

"Crow, you suck. Learn to play, then talk. Nerdy Essay Pranks = boring. "

"Your Deception = You're a Liar and lie to get people to like you and/or join your CLAN."

"Canadians = Cool. Crow = Idiot who wishes he was half as good as *R?p!d?*"

"After accepting the fact that they can't own us in RS, Crow has now resorted to his nerdy side, and got a masterplan together as good as the one from the boys from Lambda Lambda Lambda(like in movie "Revenge of the Nerds"), his personal close friends(only REAL friends he has) and has started writing essays on humor on *R?p!d?*, thinking that will even out the fact that {IAM} is so WEAK and owned by us |?K|'s. The whole thing is, he used his own Personal Pictures and Prank pulled on him, to use against |?K|'s *R?p!d?* and the truth of the matter is, that will never take away the fact that {IAM} sits so low on the BL Board. Sore Nerdy Loser."

"* March 7th * {IAM} Crow still crying out loud trying to deceive people on how much they really suck."

Now, these are just a FEW samples out of several. How is this not offencive? This is 100% worse then what we did, we were doing it as a joke, they did it as an insult.

We didn't wanna "tarnish" the AK's name... That is, unless you think we want to tarnish our name, (unts name, *DAMN's name, and FiRE's name. I mean, yes, the next spoof, frankly, is a DAMN spoof. A site called "DARN". Tell me, are you already offended?!

They claim the news site offended them. Wow, I understand how. I mean a clan named different then theres lost some cb's. Wow... It's offencive. Its like GONADS losing cb's... and NADS being offended. Both are different clans, both will most likely and are spoofs of the original. How is a spoof clan losing cb's (everyone knows thats not really them) an INSULT?!

I understand you are going to wait for Capt Mauti, but what else can be said? Bondo told me he knew who got us to put up the site (and he named the guy off) and then he continued to say that he messaged you with the information. The guy overruled what he told us before! So now, what possible topic can you discuss with Capt? If you wanna say he's trying to just insult AK, you're wrong... I would give you a link to the *DARN website, but it's not near enough to completion... This proves that it's not an insult, but a spoof. You may say Rapid and Typhy found it offencive... Which part? The NEWS part? OMG what a load of bs. (sarcasm)Yes, the news to a spoof clan is really real, just like all the jokes told on Saturday night live.. They are real. Yes, and everyone believes them.. (/sarcasm)

This is just one of AK's attempts to get rid of a fun clan in RS that everyone loves. I mean, lookinbg back at the arguing, I haven't seen one statement supporting AK besides the fact that you want to talk to Capt first, and that its a private site owned by DAMN... Everything has been counterred so many times that its getting boring. What else can be said?

Review: Spoof Site, DAMN*'s next so not a personal insult. AK's site is much more insulting then this. Their only support that holds up is that you want to talk to Capt, and that you own this and can do what you want as it's private.

Ben

Nice Try Ben.  That was my response to IAM Crow's disrespect to myself and my clan in his website.  We kept it cool.  He went way further than I did.  I just told it from our point of view on our site without resorting to spoofing their site. *sigh*  Anyway, that matter was settled and you never heard us come in here making a deal out of it, so it's funny you feel the need to do so.  They decided to talk smack on us on their website and thought we wouldn't fire back.  We did everything accordingly and we never violated the old BL rules.  Things have changed and rules have changed.  Too bad that your stubborn mind has to try to reason with illegitimate logic.  We respect the rules and that's why cookie, we're not going to make a spoof site of *NADS even if you want me to or have your permission.  I respect Mauti's decision  and will support it by respecting it and not stooping to your clan's level.  All  you need to learn a lesson on manners and how to act in someone else's place.  If you go to anybody's house you don't know and you start acting like a jackass, the host of the house has all right to kick you out of his house.  This is Mauti's house.  Now respect it.

first of all, unles i missed something nobody has come forth as impersonating jeb, i would like to ask them to comeforeward ( this is your 2nd chance now you probabily wont get another)


now, on ak (and rapid) being distespectful.

first on the ak site, when they beat taf, they acted like they had just  beat a clan with a perfect cb record(the exact opposite was the case). while i do think that they  should have the right to celebrate, i think that respect be present as well, i mean you dont see kos taunting every clan it defeats on it's site, do you?

and just incase rapid doesnt like that little example, back in the  who has the best armpatch thread, hazard explained what our armpatch ment, and then rapid in the next post said that it represented the fact that the clan was a bunch of 'flamers'(he has since modified his post to eliminate this fact). there was no comment or insult made towards ak at any time in that thread. he simply made an un provoked and uncalled for attack.

next, if i really wanted to i could go way back and show the countless time that he has called me brainless, if you were to go look at my responses to  those posts, i have YET to call rapid by any other name.

personaly, i think that if capt. is going to be punished for his actions, it's time that rapid gets his due as well, he has insulted, mocked and disrespected countless rs players, and almost every single member of this forum. to date, sanctions have never taken against rapid, and he has gotten far more than 3 warnings in the past.  if we are going to start cracking down on disrespect, we must be impartial about doing so.  under that condition, rapid is the prime target, no if's, and's, or butt's

 Good job guys! - You let me sleep for 9 hours and you guys only made what? About 10 posts? Good job! Now to respond the the stupidity of your posts.

I like to start with the stupidest, so let's take a look at Jeb's post; I said that if I was on GameRanger, currently I might consider putting your whole clan on ignore based off of the fact that it seems that each week or so, a new one of them will come be a dumbass, still, I don't clan ignore, so I wouldn't do that. Secondly, there are not 500 people that hate Rapid, actually, there are a lot less than you might think, the (unt clan, half of the *NADS clan, most of the +-KoS-+ clan, and a few others, but the people who hate Rapid are by far in the minority.

Cossack, I guess I'll break my normal trend since your post is not stupid, just a weak argument; You must realize that in the battle league and in GameRanger, you don't have freedom of speech to do things such as that. Secondly, same as Jeb, it is the minority of the people, not the majority of the people on GameRanger who hate Rapid. Please refer to the list that I gave in my comments about Jeb.

Actually, I didn't read this post before commenting on Jeb's, this is a post that makes Jeb's look positivly intelectual. - Cookie! Your post!; Cookie, the first part of your post really has no point, therfor nothing to comment on, but right at the end of it, I see you say, just the same as Cossack, Jeb, so far you guys have a perfect record on the stupidity tablett, 3-0, you say that "everyone" hates AK and Rapid, using the word "everyone" was a very stupid idea, when someone uses the word "everyone", all that is needed to be done is for me to point out 1 person, and your point is invalid. I will pick a person at random, he <FiRE> RC, do you hate us? Don't use the word "everyone" if you want to make a good argument about somthing like this. As for the second half of your post, I think that Mauti summed it up pretty well, just refer to his explaination of it.

I think that Mauti answered your question Kilzo in saying that it concerned the battle league because it was about clans who were in the battle league. Cow, I find your post a little hard to understand, I think that you're trying to say that Anarchy broke the warning by putting the site up again, and there is no excuse for that, if thats what you meant, then I'd agree with you.

Buccaneer, all that is done at the |?K| site is state the facts, and an opinion, you may find it offensive, oh well, I find some of the articals on MLB.com pretty offensive as a Mariners fan, but all that it is is facts and opinions of their chances, also, the IAM site used person insults as well as calling my cable the equal of two tin cans, which was a pretty lame insult considering that Crosshairs computer was about the equal in processor speed of my Mac Classic that I have in the closet. Looks like Ben has a long post comming up, I will go get a drink then respond to it.

Okay, back, let's check out your post Ben; Actually Ben, you've lost 2 times in 3v3s, once it was Cow, Myself, and Rapid, the other it was myself, Rapid, and 33Degrees. Also, a 2v2, the players in that were Seth and Saberian. I would call it more like 3 wins since your teamate ( Bronto ) was stupid enough to take us on in a 1v1, which we were nice in and used 9mms for sevral games. Those quotes that you list off about Crow were in response for Crow making a link on his site with a really ugly looking guy ( Crow had no problem getting this picture, he just snapped his own picture with a digital camera ) and a bunch of weird music, as well as a fake Question and Answer thing about Rapid, filled with lies considering at the time Rapid had Crow on ignore. That 5th comment is because he is going on about this crap, while refusing to cb us, the battle that is referd to is a 5v5 that we won 6-1. The 6th quote is in response to somthing, we stayed away from them as much as we could since they were so stupid and failed to use logic in any arguments, so that quote was in response to something, what I don't know.

You mention that *DAMN will not be offended by the *DARN site, the reason for that is because in contains no insults, fake battles etc. Just jokes calling *NADS the best and crap like that. Once again, we just state our opinions, along with the facts, in no way is our site "spoof" or crap like that, there is a diffrence between opinion and spoof. Also, you comment that someone else did this, well, Anarchy is the one who had the site, so either he had to give him the script, which would mean that he had the knowledge that it would be going on the inetnet again, or he had to put it up himself. - No matter how you figure it, *NADS Capt. Anarchy was invloved.

-Typhy

I agree with ben,
Mauti
i don't think AK had any form of reputation before capt made the site.
If you wanna see disrespect, insults, and childish humour go on over to the AK site. Ben didn't mention the numerous screenshots of bs on their site.
Disrespecting other clan leaders
"<( LMAO! Here's a Pic of Evill and KoS Ultimo, provided by PUNISHER <(UglyAssUltimoOnRight)>"
"<( *R?p!d?* teaches +-KoS-+Destructo a lesson and TK's him first <( TK'ed Dest )>"
"{IAM} has now started crying in public."
"Nice Try Drunk {IAM} Canadians"
"but it just shows how dumb those Drunk Canadians in that Clan really are."
"You're Marked thanks to ur IDIOTIC leader Tiger, so beware that there's a cap coming for ur ass!"
" aSsAsSin kept getting offended by our simple presence. This caused him to lead a parade of clowns to start bashing on us"

mauti, i know that rapid is acting really inocent about all this, but his original clan website is just as bad as capts joke.

 I want to comment on the whole thing, so I won't bother cutting parts out, pardon the double post, but I don't think that I have enough space left on the last one to post this there. First off, about TAF, I do belive that all that we said when we beat TAF was that it was our best ownage yet and pointed out the fact that we were proud to say that we didn't even take a shot durring that cb. Both of which are true.

The reason that the topic of the disrespect within the AK site keeps comming up is because you have no argument that Anarchy should not be in trouble, so you try and bring AK into this trying to get us in trouble, the fact though is, that we only state the fact and our opinion, you may not like the way in which we do this, but there is no impersonation or anything like that, *NADS made a seprate site from their own to mock AK, we only post our opinion within our site, and there is nothing against that, you can say things like: "AK are fucking wusses because I hate them and they are stupid" and all that kind of crap on your site, and thats 100% fine, because it's just opinions, where as the *NADS site is an impersonation of ours beacuse they simply modify/lie about facts changing everything just enough that it is not a direct impersonation, weak argument Brain.

I'll modify this so that I can comment on Jeb's post also, Jeb, the thing there, is that you always fail to mention what the cause of those statments, they're always provoked. There is far more in all of these incodents that you quote than you show, you show the things that make your argument good, but always fail to mention the reasoning for those comments.

Typhy...

If you could make a good spoof of the cunt site then I say go right ahead. I don't give a damn if its the funniest thing anyone has ever seen and hurts our reputation. I could care less. Like Jackass Hypocrit Rapid says..."its just a fucken game". I will be in no way offended by anything you or Rapid can make, say, or do.

And we are in no way associated with the making of the AH site. Get that through your thick bacon fat head.

As for insulting people. Typhy...if it offends you so much I suggest you get a life. The world isn't all pretty with roses and fruity gumdrops. It's pure hell...so deal with it. If you'd like me to stop making jokes about you and Rapid being gay...I will...but I won't stop making fun of your head stuck up ass attitude.

Which brings me here....Typhy...your clan may have been number one in the battle league...We know already. There's no reason for you to continue smearing that crap on us. Stop challenging people to 1v1....it makes you look like an ass. And don't brag about how good you are...that's partly why a lot of people don't like you. Your head up ass syndrome has taken over Typhy...seek medical help.

Btw....try using a period here and there typhy...it helps.

Those comments should never be on your site in the first place....There's no reasoning behind it. Take them off.

I just gotta respond to all this.

Typhy, I don't friggin care how many cb's we lost to you. It's no biggy to our clan. We don't CARE. And yes, the DARN site will have made fake losses and will have fake this and that... That's what SPOOFING IS. It doesn't yet, but it will. The DARN site will be just as funny as your's.

Rapid, you claim you were provoked into posting that on your website. You cussed out Capt and threatenned *NADS.. Is that not provocation?

Typhy, So you are saying that the whole difference is that we made a new site to spoof you. So what if we just made it OUR site. It would be ok then? By your theory it would! By the way, I like how you referred mine as the smart post, as you started with the stupidest... Mine was last. :)

The comment that it wasn't Capt wasn't directed to you Typhy. You don't even understand who I mean.

Typhy, we didnt IMPERSONATE. Even Mauti agrees with that. We mocked. Big difference.
Heres a quote to work with from Typhy:


Is that the definition of impersonating now? That's bs. Ok then, we'll change it. Now it's our opinion. Happy?

Mauti, look over Jeb's post. We are just scratching the surface on the insults they provide. Typhy's excuse: "it's on AK's webpage. We didn't make a new one" By those laws, we could make the AH part of our webpage, and it would be ok?! Our site was meant to be a joke, theirs is meant to be insulting and hurtful. They say they got provoked into it. So did we.

Everyone keeps referring (unt to the AH site? Not the case. Lay off them.

Ben (On Netscape 7. It's so tight)

 Wow, I played an hour of soccer, and I came back to only 3 posts to respond to! Wow, amazing! I would've thought more like 20.

Compared to your other posts, this one looks postivly intelectual, however, based on a normal stand point compared to someone who normaly posts well, it's the stupidest thing ever. I was joking with Ben that you and Cookie don't read my posts, and judging from your here, thats true. I already said that there is a huge diffrence between our clans, |?K| is a clan to win at Rogue Spear, and we take offense to a site like that, I wouldn't think that you would care because thats not your style to care, you don't care that you suck at Rogue Spear. (unt and |?K| just have diffrent ideas of what "fun" is.

What matters to us is being as good as we can at Rogue Spear, and our way of defending that is to take our people in Rogue Spear rather than just listening to you guys talk crap, this whole thing is based off of Rogue Spear and Rainbow Six, I'd sugest that you guys don't even sign up for the next Battle League since you never cb anyone other than you friends. Pyrex, try using a comma somtimes, all that I see is "..." crap, in almost all of those situations, a comma would work fine.

Ben, if you don't care how many times that we've beatn you, then why did you bother to comment on the fact that Rapid mentioned it? Also, what I am saying the diffrence is, is that we have no spoof of you on our site, there are no comments on our site spoofing you guys. The reason that (unt is refered to in this is because they're here defending Capt's actions in these forums, thats the exact same reason that I'm invloved in your comments, I am here making our case, just as (unt is making yours.

SK; if we were arguing what they are, it would be Typhy and Rapid shut up, for you, were the idiots no matter what we're doing, and no matter how we're going about that, the reason for that I asume is because you can't stand people who are smarter than you... oh wait, if that was true, then you'd not be able to stand anyone.

You know, I was hoping at least one of you would be a man and let this shit slide on by...but apparently you would all like to bash each other and furthur degrade these forums from what they once were. Apparently my advice/warning to all of you went unheeded now that it has been pushed back to the fifth page fo this BS (we are on page 7 now). This whole situation will be over once Mauti finally talks to Capt. Anarchy, so until then,FUCKING GROW UP AND STOP BITCHING AT EACH OTHER.

I don't want to see any bullshit and pointing fingers as a result of this post, just ignore each other and stop your worthless bitching.

since i'm not bitching or taking a real side here, i'm going to post anyway assassin, sorry if it adds fuel to the fire.


typhy, you just justified why it's ok for you to insult people and them not to insult you.  which is bull.  he's talking about showing respect.  voicing your opinoins in the way you have isn't very respectful, is it?

if you really feel that it's ok to act like that, you have no ground to complain about the ah web site.  they were just voicing thier opinion about ak.  they just did it in a more creative way.  "he did it first" is not a valid argument, it never has been.  

in other words, the standards that are being discussed will apply to ak too.  and ak should look at it's own site and take out some garbage before they are forced to.  unless you really honestly think that you don't disrespect anyone (them deserving it is not an excuse, or nads can use the same).

Let's play Count the Comma Game!!!!

Todays contestants are:
Typhoid Typhy
Raped Rapid
?(uNt? FarmerJeb

The player who has the most commas in their post wins a 5 day trip to the shit littered cow pastures of Scotland. You and a guest will stay at the luxourious Townsfolk Hut known for its dirt floors and drying goat testicles. Worth over 4,000 sheep livers!!!

The second runner up will win an all expense paid venture to the homo littered streets of San Francisco. There you will enjoy the sights and sounds of America's Gayest City. Hotdogs galore!

The player that scores the least will be given $50,000,000 dollars and their own private island filled with nude women.


Let's Play Count the Commas!!!

We first go to Typhoid Typhy's post. Ladies and Gentlemen...silence please as the judges make their decision.
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Yes ladies and gentlemen the judges have counted 32 commas in Typhoid Typhy's post. WOW! HAHAHAHA!
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We go to our next contestant Raped Rapid. Again..silence please.
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The judges have decided that Rapid has 5 whole commas in his post. Yes 5 whole commas! This could get close!
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We now go to our last and final contestant, FamerJeb!!! Please observe silence while the judges count.
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The judges have found ONLY 4 Commas! Yes ladies and gentleman only 4!
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There you have it folks. Typhoid Typhy will be enjoying his trip to Scotland with all the open cow holes  he could want. Raped Rapid will be having himself a gay old time in America's gayest city. Last but not least, FarmerJeb is already on his way to his own private island filled with hot nude women and over $50,000,000.

Thanks for playing the Count the Commas Game!!!!
Come back and see us!!

Shut the fuck up all of you fuckers. Someone fuckin lock this post, Typhy fagged it up.

Yeah, thanks typhy...

 Looks like it's time to post again, for starters, who the heck are you "TomFrankBillyBobJoeSmith"?

Deadeye, I said that it's fine for people to say all their crap and insult us all that they want. I just said that I don't want them to make spoof sites and things like that, there is a big diffrence between making a spoof site and just making insults.

Yes Pyrex, Jeb has won the "Worst punciation" contest, Rapid comes in second, and Typhy takes the gold.

Nice of you all to post such stupid things or make your posts so short, it makes it a lot easier for me to respond to all of them.

-Typhy

-sigh-

seven pages of thread to catch up on.. oh boy oh boy... where to start.

First thing i see to respond to and set straight is such:

I didn't re-upload the site for general public viewing. Hell, it' still been up even since i "took it down". All i had done was moved it into a directory of random alphnumeric charachters 7 digits long so i could still show it to trustworthy friends who desired a laugh. I gave two other people the login info for the site so they could help me with it. These people will remain nameless unless need be.

Anways, i think last monday or tuesday somone asked me to put the site up for general viewing. i decided, wtf, i'll do it, and i put it up for an hour. i then took it back down. On Thursday Aug. 29th i left to goto work for the weekend. I get back to find that SOMEONE has re-posted the site. I did not have a chance to take it down because i have been gone all weekend. Given the chance, ti would have been down in a heartbeat had i known it was up. But i was away at a place with no online access, so screw me.

To respond to the "making fun of all clans", i most certianly did plan to do this, and i have a couple other clansites halfway finished, one being the *DAMN site. Yes, i am working on it. No, you may not see.

Personally, i don't think my entire clan shoudl be punished, simply because i am the leader. If need be, i'll step down and hand the reins over to cookie or bio, and let them lead the clan, and i'll be just another clanless whore on GR.

But for now, i would like to enter into evidence exhibit a:

http://nads.150m.com/main.html (http://nads.150m.com/main.html)

while nowhere near as complete as my spoof, it is still a impersonation/spoof. courtesy of rapid. thank you very much and have a great fucking day.

(added a few mins later)
oh yes.. it would have been nice if you could have SENT ME A E-MAIL about why and when my clan was banned.. this way i have to hear it through the grapevine.

 Thank god that Anarchy is back and responding, I look at this, and what I see is that Anarchy is really admitting to everything, the fact is, that you were asked to take the site down, obeyed, and then put it up again, now with this, you're admitting that you never really took it down, just moved it to a new location. The problem though, is that you put it up for that hour. Someone had reposted the site you say, well, that could be true, but you do admitt that you put it up for an hour, that is breaking the rules. Do you know the person who put it back up?

-Typhy

Wow, would you look at that. I didn't know Rapid spoofed the *NADS site. Shit, I hope |?K| experiences the same punishment.

A big difference to you Typhy, maybe not to someone else.  That's my whole point.  It's not about impersonation, or mocking, or spoofing.  It's about respect.  You don't show it in one way, they don't show it in another.  Saying one is ok while the other one isn't is pretty weak.

yes, i could have said no and not posted it. but if you could please turn your attention to what rapid has made, that would be great. what goes around comes around. If i get banned, i'd sure love for Rapido and he clan of bastards to get banned as well.

Yes i put it up for an hour. No, nobody saw it that would care about it in a bad way. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody's around, does it make a noise? Anyways, i bvelieve rapid made a site too, as i was trying to direct you to in my last post

http://nads.150m.com/main.html (http://nads.150m.com/main.html)

i mean... please. i know his work isn't as high quality as m,ine, but WHAT THE FUCK, he still impersonated my site. and he stole my graphics, too. copyright infringement. yes, i made the ?H site entirely from scratch. nothin copied directly off his site. grrrr....

(added minutes later)
i hear people are bitching abotu me copying Rapid's source. let me say this once and or all:

I DID NOT COPY ANY SOURCE

all teh work i did was entirely from scratch. everything i made i made on my own. the top banner, the html, all the graphics, EVERYTHING. I made it all from scratch.

but anarchy rapid did such an idiotic and bad job, its not beleivable.  He sucks at life though, and for that he should be banned from anything that involved breathing.

i know, wombat. but a spoof is a spoof.

dude, that is the lamest spoof site i've ever seen, but hey, now the score is even!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

except for the fact rapid directly copied our images, tsk tsk :) but hey, nice job  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/hm.gif) Great! Capt do you know for sure that this is Rapid's version!? He often told me he made a spoof site I thought it was only a bluff but obviously not.

Offtopic I don't have a problem if you make a satirical *DAMN site. I only would wish that you add a frame at the top: Dedicated to *DAMN(with link to us) so everybody can compare  your site with mine ;)

Ontopic again if Rapid made this site I feel kinda alone now because I was working on a new rule mainly to stop this bitching and supporting the insulted clans and persons. We have almost worked out this rule and yes it would force AK to change some content of their website as well.

I have to talk with Rapid now then I can say more but now I go to bed.

Good night,

Mauti

I'm not 100% sure, i don't have his official say, but i do have the say of the official who was moderating the original dispute over the site (*DAMN Snake) that it was given to him by rapid as his "response" to my site.

grrr....

(added a bit later)
oh yes, if i was to spoof *DAMN sit i'd certianly offer a link to the real one. And don't worry, i won't copy your source code or nuthin.. where's the skill in that?

It really is true, both rapid and typhy say nothing respectful.
I didn't have any problems with ak untill they started asking for cbs 8 times a day (not exagerating) and i think that any other clan who has asked us for a cb knows that we usualy say no. and i told typhy that when we wanted to cb someone we would ask you. But no, he kept bothing me untill i got fed up and said that we would never cb AK. Then Rapid and typhy start talking about how pussy we are and this and that to everyone. Rapid was talk'n about how we are scared to lose to him as we did 8months ago on the magleague. Well big fucking deal. Its a fact that in cunt, the cb rules go like this, cb whomever you want whenever. A better clan that AK, Virus, a few cunt members cbed and lost, 0-6. Did i get angry at the clan for that? Nope.
I've seen rapid mention it a few times in this topic before about how we should back up our talk with a cb. Guess what, we don't have to (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)  keep being disrespectful to us by calling us pussies (sadly ironic) infront of everyone and you will get disrespect back. i think a humbling fact is this rapid, AK has the least amount of allies of any clan ever, on gr. cunt on the other hand is loved for making games fun and exciting with jokes, mpboundspams and genral bs.

If I could've fought fire with fire, you would've all felt ashamed of wearing the tag *NADS.? But restrictions layed down my Mauti prohibited such behavior and I respected that.? Too bad you couldn't.

rapid if thats the best site u can come up with thats pretty pathetic if youre gonna make a site like that at least take the time to do a good job on it thats nowhere near good enough to make me ashamed of "wearing the NADS tag

So recap of this thread:::

-*NADS should not be punished for their site
- The site was funny
- AK is stupid and whiney
- Rapid is the essence of stupid and whiney
- Cunt are not pussies
- I touch myself at night
- Rapid made a nonfunny spoof NADS site
- Rapid is both immature and dissrepctful, not to mention hypocritical.

The end

 You people are so stupid it's to a point where I can no longer laugh, just feel sad that there are people like you in the wold taking the place that could be filled by someone with a brain. *NADS is not being punished 100% for that site, they're being punished for breaking the warning issued to them from the battle league. I won't post anymore on this post because it will be a big stretch for your small minds even to understand this part, don't bother reading this last part, it's for the one who has a brain, Sane.

Justin, first off, nice to see you on the forums, I might sugest that you change your name, the justinsane looks kinda weird, perhaps Justin Sane or something like that. - Just a though

-Typhy

      Thyphy, rapid was making a spoof of *NADS site as well... i asked him to remove it and he did. but capt said rapid put it up again. he took an ss, i will check the date and the ss. if this is liget it is only fair to do the same because i warned both clans. i will talk to mauti and let him decide.

Look, I made a site and took it down.  I never announced it and advertised it on GR like Capt.  The only person I ever showed it to, was Snake.  There's no way for anybody to have seen that site unless Snake was spreading the URL to others.  I never spread the URL, so I never showed my page.   I only showed Snake and it was this URL http://nads.150m.com/

That's all that I put and that's the only URL I ever showed Snake.

from what i'v eheard, *NADS was banned for "acting unacceptably", and it is because the site was up. The ban is 100% traceable to the site. period. can your "small mind" swallow that, typhy? the ban is 100% because of the site. not because of any other action by *NADS, completely related to the site.

anyways, i'm sorry to say rapid has done some quick damage control and removed his site. a pity...gave me a good laugh.

(added a bit later as to not double post)
sadly, rapid, you hadn't removed the site or moved it to a diff directory, it was still where it always was. i moved mine so no fool might stumble across it at all. And then i put it back. And now it's staying back unless a miracle might happen.

BTW, I never showed my URL in public and nobody can prove me wrong because I'm right.  I had never showed anything about the NADS spoof site in Public and yes, I was going to have a spoof site for *NADS, but I never got around to putting it up and showed that URL  to Snake ONLY.  If anybody thinks I'm lying about the Showing my URL of a spoof site of *NADS in public, step up with the SS to prove it.  I have plenty of SS's of Capt on GR advertising his URL of a spoof site of our clan site.  Capt Anarchy was penalized for advertising a Spoof Site of |?K| in GR and in these forums.  I have never announced no URL's to ANYBODY other than Snake(He was the administrator in charge at the time, but remember he got in an arguement with me about KoS and started insulting me and changed his attitude towards me).  His honesty was broken since he'd be the only one to tell *NADS about me making a site that I never announced publicly to anybody, and then suddenly Capt knowing about it.  That's why you won't see anybody step forward and show me announcing my site I had in response to NADS's spoof site of |?K|.  I never announced it publicly, therefore I never broke any rules.  That's why nobody won't be able to provide such proof of me showing this site in public.  I respected *DAMN's decision and I took my site down appropriately.  NObody was supposed to even know that URL anyways.  I only had it in case *DAMN decided not to do anything and I had to resort to fighting fire with fire.  But since they did, I never had to announce it to anybody, other than Snake who was dealing with the problem at the time, who was supposed to keep our info confidential and not announce it to anybody.  He even changed a post back then during the first time NADS put that site up because I told him that nobody knew about it other than him.  I showed him for his record to see that I could fight fire with fire and I never even finished it, so it was never even shown to anybody other than him.  

Typhy...why must everyone be stupid to you? Do you think you're superior? Did mommy forget to put the cap on the bleach?

Just stfu about people being stupid and how you are smarter than us. It's not going to happen. You will remain the retard of the bunch.

Oops you have some drool on  your chin....

    Oh my friggen god! rapid, I used to think that you were a gibbering idiot. Now I have a much lower opinion of you. Now you are trying to blame me for you own stupidty! what makes you think i would give your stupid, gay, dumb ass, retarted spoof of *NADS site out?!?!?! I gave it to capt, just like you seen AH site from me... Brains aren't everything. In fact, in your case they're nothing! I would slap you but I'm not sure your brain could process the pain. If i wanted to get AK screwed i would of banned you right there for rule 22... I'm not being rude, But you are really stupid!
      now...I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. I can't bleave it went from Kos vs AK... WAS ALL MY FAULT! to.... this anymous ass! OOO I WAS JUMPING THE GUN THERE!!! and not you ARE BLAMING ME FOR THIS BS!!!  

        And your idiotic, whiny-assed opinion would be...?
     But, remember this before you post raptardo....It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. but in your case, you allready removed all doubt so therefore you are the bigest moron/asshole on thefourms and on gameranger!

say rapid... when the |?H| site came back... did you see it advertised around? i certianly didn't advertise it, for one because i thought it was down, for two because i was away for the weekend. So, by your reasoning, *NADS did nothing wrong either, since i didn't advertise it around on GR during its "second comming". And i didn't post it up.

yes, i got the URL from Snake. Yes, i showed it around. that's right. I showed it around. i spread the word. No, you didn't spread it, i did. because a spoof that horribly done needs some showing around. i can tell you, it sure gave us all a good laugh.

Sure, i advertised mine around. You wanna know why? because at least 80% of the people who have seen it loved it and thought it was hillarious. in fact, the few that i can think of that thought it was wroung would be most |?K|'s, Mauti and Bondo. that's four. shall i begin to list those who liked it? i think not. that woudl take too much room.

To start...I liked it. Congratulations Capt. on a job well done. I didn't get a chance to see Rapid's version but I'm sure it was subpar (As he, typhy, and his cronies are too).

Ya know what anarchy...that gives me an idea.

LETS MAKE A LIST OF EVERYONE WHO LOVED THE AH SITE AND THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD LAUGH AWAY FROM ALL THE BASHING, THE FLAMING, THE ARGUING, THE HELL OF THE GAME-GONE-WRONG!!!!!!

The list starts here.

1. AgT SNiPE.
2. ---?---

My case proven.  Capt received that URL from Snake and Snake was supposed to keep it confidential since he is an administrator and I was working deals out with him in Private.  I told him I hadn't announced that URL publicly, nor did I have any intentions to, if *DAMN would do something about that AH site.  Since DAMN did, I never had to publicly announce it to anybody.  Snake is in violation of publicly announcing confidential information that was supposed to stay between me and the administrator.  Thank You.

I don't see why this thread is still open, what's done is done. Nads was punished for doing something that in the eyes of the leaders of this battle league was wrong. The only reasons I could see this thread being open is

1. To talk about the site AK made about Nads

2. To let people bash Rapid.

And even if its still open for reason number 1 isn't something the admins should discuss not the players?

this is all bs. how is it the little worm rapid can wiggle out of everything?

it all boils down to 2 things: either AK should be banned too, or both clans should be let off the hook. if the situation remains the same, then this BL is pathetic.

i agree with geek 100%, either ban ?K of unban NADS its only fair that u do 1 or the other since they did the same thing capt did.

furthermore i tought the AH site was very well done and very funny and u can add me to the list of ppl that thought it was funny

I don't think they will undo the ban, I think once something is done they won't go back on it. If they undo the ban people might think that the admins are not serious about enforcing BL rules.

like i said hazard if they dont undo the ban than its  only fair if they ban AK since they did the same thing as us

I can't say thats true because I never even heard of or saw the Nads site so I can't say they showed the same level of disrespect.

Hazard its not the level of respect that matters, its the fact that  they made the site that mattters, not how much  better or worse than the other one it is

     (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif)  This is stupid, *NADS the clan that made AH site... was banned because? rapid complained... well thats to bad I GAVE both clans the warnings and AK put the site up as well as *NADS did... eather unbann nads or ban AK

Yes, but your site targeted certain members and was insulting and also talked about them being homosexuals and having no playing ability.

i was not specifically saying homosexuals have no playing ability, but i was certianly using it as an insult. becuase you know what? this may not be the place to get into this, but personally i think homosexuality is against the natural way of things. Maybe it wasn't the greatest insult to use, but it got the job done. In my defense, rapid's site used the insult in teh exact same way.. i managed to snag its main page as evidence before it was gone:

http://nads.home.attbi.com/nadsGAYimage.jpg (http://nads.home.attbi.com/nadsGAYimage.jpg)

as you can see, we both hurled the gay/fag insults back and forth.

No, I meant that it said that the clan had no skills and that they were homosexuals, not that homosexuals have no skill.

Sweet Jesus...my threat on page 7 was ignored again.

Oh well, in recap, if *NADS is getting punished, AK should too becuase even after Rapid saw what happened to *NADS, he posted his own version of a website calling them dicksuckers or something else (I saw it, but didn't get down what he had the acronym was. Rapid, it doesn't matter if you released the link publically or not, the fact is that it was released and by being brought to attention on these forums, the link went public.

Anyway, in recap, since most of you are stupid little brats (I stress that most of you are, not all of you...take that any way you want to) who couldn't get this damn issue behind you, the thread is now locked.

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If you want to continue a debate on this, I suggest you take it to the *DAMN Battle League section since this is now apparently in the penalty phase for both clans mentioned. The decision to hand down penalties is now in the hands of the Battle League staff and Mauti.

As I said before and most of you could not understand apparently, FUCKING LET IT GO.

Read the Battle League main news (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/clanladder/index.php?von=0#newsitem_178).

I hope you can all live with this solution please leave your comments at the BL news.

Have a nice day,

Mauti
btw Capt to clear this up I didn't contact you about the ban first because you were already warned so what had I to expect from you!? However I hope you follow my wishes and redo the site and make a real spoof. And while it is done you take off the AH site. -> See BL main news.