*DAMN R6 Forum

i hope i'm not the only one with this opinion., but GR3 SUCKS! sure, it's OSX compatible, but i coulnd't give less of a shit cuz i'm still in OS9. As for why it sucks, here's the first few rreasons i find:

1) It's slower.
2) You can't get a regulay list of games easily, it takes like 3 or 4 clicks from main menu to get a full list of games.
3) It's not as fast
4) the whole layout is funky
5) It's a good bit less speedy
6) To get non-graphical pings you have to change your prefs.
7) Did i mention it's SLOWER?!

there's a dozen other little things but i gotta go, just felt the need to post.

It's a PREVIEW idiot, also known as a Beta.

i know, but still. by the time something reaches preview aka public beta, it usually means what you see you can pretty much expect to find in the finalized version, save a few bug fixes. And in all fairness to GR3, all versions of GR have been running slow today. Still, i highly dislike the new game finder system.

Capt you fool, the reason the server is runnign slow is cause of all the DLS. And also, betas usally run slower...

Well, I thought it was better, but I guess I'm just wrong ;)

i thought i was better too...

there's some nifty featuers, but the real meat of it, the game slist, is kinda.. uhhh.. funky. i s'pose i may like it in time, but as for now i still think the plain list works best.

new gr? huh? what? where? when?

would one of the os x gifted ppl ,please post a ss for the rest of us poor souls who dont  know what gr x looks like?

Well Anarchy just press on the my games folder/ all games and you can view all your games together as in GR2. At all I love the look and feel of GR3 still some minor issues which I have sent to Scott. Maybe he likes my ideas as well (I hope so :D)

Bye,

Mauti

i dunno, i just subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mindset. I was very used to the old version, and it was incredibly utilitarian. Sure, it wasn't pretty, but it worked. and it worked well. need a game list? BAM! right there on the left. Chat window? in the middle. Player list? on the right. the over/under split of the game list/chat window doesn't work too well. if tehre were an option to go back to side to side....

i wubs the scroll wheel, and you can only scroll on the fucking chat window, not the users window

Wow, lots of harsh opinions for something that?s still in Beta?

First, almost no beta tests are optimized for speed.  Usually it?s just at the level where most major bugs are gone.  Combine that with the fact that yes, his server was overloaded yesterday (even the old app was laggy in chat, in case you didn?t try it!)

Second, yeah, like anything else, there are things I like and don?t like about it.  But just like old GR, once you have it set up the way you like it, (numbered pings, the ?all my games? list, etc) it stays that way until you change it.

Thrid, things I like and don?t like:

LIKES
The Buddy List is now alphabetical.
He?s done a bunch to improve the look with even the icon in the dock not bouncing to get your attention, but showing a symbol of why.
That you can change the size of the panels, making the chat area smaller then the games (good if you aren?t into chat as much as games).
He?s put the servers for the games you have in the same menu as the hosted room games.

DISLIKES
Well, my major bitch would be in the new private messages.  They pop up as the active window instead of just being in chat if you respond?.  and the worst part, they become the ACTIVE window (yes, I?m repeating myself)? so while I was typing in one window, it became buried behind 4 other PM windows, and my typing went into one of them.
A minor bitch would be that it feels more crowded on the screen now.
Another minor bitch would be that I can?t seem to not show a game I have in the games? I don?t want to delete the game, but I don?t play it on GR, I used to be able to uncheck it in the list of games and those rooms wouldn?t show up.
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All in all, I think that it?s going to be a better product.  Working with OS X is by far the best part of it (since RS and GR are the only times I even use OS 9 or Classic on my computers).  With all the new games coming out for OS X, only RS will keep be using OS 9 at all.  But RTCW, MOHAA, and MOO3 will be changing how much I play RS anyway.
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Since it was asked, I'm loading a jpg on my server of a screenshot showing GR3 in OS X.  I don't want to load it here, because it's still a big file, and I don't want to slow up the people on modems that don't want to see it.

Here's the link:

http://www.macclans.com/gr3preview.html

hey! im not on your buddy list??
***begins to throw large objects towards Detroit*** :P

The old version was utilitarian eh?  It worked to improve general happiness?

Anyway, I think the buddy list should be included in the main window as well, maybe on the left, I don't like having the buddy list seperately because it always gets lost behind other windows.  I say have the chat middle, buddy list left, user list right and game list top and you'd have a fine set up.  I actually like having PMs pop up because I'd have a heck of a time trying to find the people PMing me sometimes.  I also like that they include the RtoCW servers among others.  Really, my only complaint is the buddy list placement thing and it isn't specific to this version.

Don't get your panties in a bunch... look at the scroll bar. ?The new list is alphabetical... and you are just scrolled up there off the screen.

Haha, look at the fruitcake with the Dock on the bottom. Dock on the right owns you.

GR X is nice I guess, but I have no games to play on it.

n00b

I think the new GR is pretty cool.  The os9 version looks a lot like the osX version.  The only problems I see is that it does look a little funky and it's going sooo slow right now because of the downloads.

well, i must say. it looks much spiffy-er in OSX.

well, it's official
i now have a reason to get os x
(too bad rs isnt osx compatable) :(

Actually Brain, as scarry as it is, I've actually been playing RS in Classic on this lately.

Somewhere between GR3, 10.1.5, and the extra RAM I added, RS is actually playable under Classic.  Still not quite as smooth as in OS 9, but better then it is on my iBook.  

Grift, what kinda specs you got on your computer... cause i got a:
G4 466mhz
768megs ram
geforce 3
and i got semi playable Frame rates in 10.0.4 or whatever. (i guess i should get the dual 1ghz processor upgrade when they come avalible)
i think i will try RS again next time i boot in X.

sorry, bout that grift, that was a typo, what i ment to say was os x native, not compatable

Grift, mb you could answer this question...
how much converting would it take to make RS osX native? i mean shit the application is like 4megs. I think its time that they stop making gay games, like suvivor, and concentrate on making the most widly played game on Gameranger os X native.

See that's where all u have been suckered into it.

Gr3 is great in OSX, but more then hlaf the games are classic environment. OSX can suck me until i get MOH.

The lag on GR is fuckin unbearable now, i hafta wait 5 mins to join a room.

Jeb,

First, the stats on this machine... Dual 1GHz G4 with 1.25 Gigs of RAM and a GeForce4 video card (almost as good as it gets with a Mac right now... just a little more RAM... ok, for the next month anyway).

Second, converting RS to OS X native would be next to impossible.  That's a complete change over.  Carbonizing it would be much easier (which is what they did with most games that run on both 9 and X.  Carbon was the easy transition... but doesn't take advantages of much of the OS X API's and features.  And I doubt anyone here could carbonize it.  You'd have to uncompile the source (never a sure thing).... then go make the changes to carbonize it, then recompile it.....  Not easy at all.... and just a bit illegal (seeing as MacSoft or UbiSoft owns the code).  I know that I don't mess around in COCOA or CARBON at all... so I couldn't do it.  I don't know many programers that do program in those environments.  Most of my buddies program in opensource stuff... a little basic and a lot of Java2EE.  

Best to just get in some RTCW and MOHAA and normal RS while waiting for Raven Sheild to make it to a Mac.  

I think its awsome so far.  It took me a while to get used to yea, but I like it.  There are a few things that I think sucks about it is the game list.  In the past when I first downloaded it, it showed that I owned the full version of Quake III Arena ( I only wish :P), Team Arena, and the demo.  Now that its been updated to play Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, it only shows that I own full Q2A and TA.  Its really weird.  Also, I cant figure out how to get the server lists for games like UT.  Gota go into the game and get it there.  That message thing is pretty cool.  It never bothers me since the only real ppl who know me are in the room I hang out in, and thats only around 7.  All in all, I like it.  

[ifB] Stryker ?

i HAVE OS9....so i dont really care......i think osx in the longrun looks cooler,but the layout for gr on os9 is more simple.I mean....the only point of gr is to hang out with ur buds and get in games right?you dont need spiffy looks

Yeah, but 30 day plus uptimes are VERY nice. (I haven't gone much longer, but many of the times I restarted were for software installs so I bet I coulda kept going for a long time.)

On another note.... there was mention that GR3 was going to be a FORCED UPGRADE in the next couple weeks...

So get your bug reports in soon, because GR 2.x is being turned off.

Thats really gay.....i cant get that carbon lib crap to work so ill be grless

Goku, just reinstall the os, and upgrade to 9.2 or whatever