*DAMN R6 Forum

Ok guys, this has gone too far.  We don't need 8 threads of people bad mouthing Rapid.  As of yet he has not been found at fault by the admins to be doing anything wrong (there have been accusations and warnings but never actual offenses) so he certainly shouldn't be treated worse than Romulus.

Yes, he may be serious about his gaming, but he shouldn't be persecuted for it.  I personally play only for fun (which competition can be) but some people get their edge from a higher competitive feel and he should be free to feel like this.

As far as I can tell having only spent maybe 100 hours chatting with Rapid in the B&G in my life, he doesn't insult people unless it is joking or unless he was insulted first.  That is the case on the forums, people bash him, he responds, and then that gives reason for further bashing.

While obviously you will still be free to do so, any further action will seriously affect how I view various poster's character.  Rapid has flaws like everyone else but is no worse.  In the end he is a fun guy if you don't hate him, so I suggest you don't hate him.

well, i agree with you bondo, but in my experience i have been bashed be rapid first before i meade the insult more than a few times

now i dont know if what i said was interpreted as bashing or what, but i think it is long past the time  we all buried the hatchet

Well Bondo, I for one have been insulted by Rapid first on many occasions.  Including the first time I met the guy.  He started the whold conversation by calling me a lying asshole, and I've never met him before.  He has 4 people (including his own) telling him that I did not set up the CB, that it was Matt (the leader of SWAT), and he still says that he knows I did it, and that I know it wasn't allowed.  Wow, talk about someone that isn't in touch with reality.  Even Matt was telling him, but he decided that I was his target.... so be it.

So your experience isn't all inclusive.

Oh, then you can just go to the thread about skill.  I wasn't talking about him, not in the least... yet he jumped in there and started shit.....  I don't care if there is a nice hate between us, he still does his share of starting it.

Also, many people may find his "joking" offensive.  He doesn't care.  That's insulting.

And finally, people here are complaining about how he acts and that he's a flaming asshole... not anything about being kicked.... so what does the admins not finding fault have to do with anything?  I mean, I understand you sticking up for your buddy....  but that just doesn't seem to fit anything.

Either way.  Rapid, like Romulus before him, brings this upon himself.  It was much nicer around here when people weren't bashing him and he wasn't around, because while bitching about an asshole can be a little entertaining, the copy and paste and I'm not going to bother to read your posts Rapid being here is not.

    I don't hate Rapid. I never said anything to that effect, and never meant to imply it. Rather, I am fantastically annoyed by the way he acts, especially his personal Reality Distortion Field: to the best of my knowledge, he has never told the truth about any series of events that he did not like, and precious few that he did like. I honestly don't think he's lying, however. I think his reality is shaped by his desires rather than by what actually happened. ::shrug:: If he told the truth, I would be far more sympathetic to his bitching, since he would have beefs that were actually valid. Anyhow, Rapid just really gets on my nerves, more than almost anyone I've ever met. Notwithstanding, I'm content to live and let live, but that's just not possible with Rapid. Much to my chagrin.

    At any rate, I enjoyed the cathartic quality of the recent Rapid-bashing, but I've got no interest in continuing it beyond this point. I realized that Rapid's Reality Distortion Field makes either trash-talking or pointing out truths about him utterly pointless, since he simply does not perceive anything that is unflattering about himself. ::shrug:: So, I'm done.

Bondo, I think that ppl need someone to bash cause romulus left Gr and the mac. So they look for someone who has fun playing, and who wants to win. And since the old pisses know it all asses start bugging rapid, all the pissy baby whiny noobs, follow.
Rapid is a great guy. He's a great leader, I don't see why all you ppl always bug him. But the only reason hes a ass to some ppl is because he has to defend himself and his clan.
So ppl plz lay off..

    He has to defend himself and his clan because he's an ass to just about everyone. Don't think that Rapid is an innocent babe in the woods, getting picked on by the big, mean, RS players. He causes way more than his fair share of shit, and most people know it. If Rapid wasn't an ass so much of the time, he and his clan would get left alone. Feh.

Actually Loth, as usual, I disagree, In the forums I rarely see things posted by Rapid and when I do there usually things like calling someone who talked crap on him in another thread out to battle. I don't know if I've ever seen Rapid start a thread like the one that Bronto started: "It's not AK, it's just Rapid."

All that I see Rapid doing is defending himself, if you'd just let him be, then things are fine.

 I don't think Rapid is that bad guy at all.  At first I didn't like him because his sense of humor to me was somewhat being an ass.  I complained to him and he calmly told me to calm down and to ignore him sometimes cuz it was just his sense of humor and I didn't understand that.  Some of you who don't have real reasons to jump on him shouldn't be.

But on a side note rapid since I'm usually on your side and trying to help you out would you maybe wanna put me on your bl on gr?  I mean you pm me about cb's and last night it was something about 33 taking his tags off by accident.  So I'm just trying to help you out.  Ya think since you can message me you wanna let me message you.  ;)

Rapid is A really Nice Guy When I first got a mac typhy toldme about ak and i could tryout. But in about 3 to 4 days i tked rapid like 4 or 5 times so then rapid booted me bevause he thought i tked alot. a little bit later he gave me a second chance and i blew that to and went out Acting like a complete asshole anD Started to rapid Bash but after A while i got to see what rapid was getting And all the shit and i still liked most of ak, i tryed Seeing it from his veiw And saw i was a toatl asshole and desrived it. From what i have seen i dont see him pick fights with people ?he olny Defends him self and his clan.

---Casper---

P.S. sorry about last night Viper i was just kind of pissed its your right to do what you did,why i dont know, but i shouldn't hate you Because of that. I still think it was wrong.

damn party poopers! calling for a stop to our favorite sport. you obviously have never seen how fun it can be! try it, i say! you'll soon be a changed man.

I assume that in your "Favorite sport" you're refering to TKing Rapid, Casper participated in that for about 2 months...

Typhy no need to metion casper.  That was in the past...So were my ?K hate days...but now i am good ol myst

Typhy I never Tked him when i was out of Ak on purpose i olny bashed him in the forums.

i s'pose TKing coudl be a part of that, but i was refering to overall rapid/AK bashing.

Typhy, Myst,

You both know full well that Rapid attacks me all the freaking time unprovoked.  

I've never attacked AK as a clan.  Only Rapid as a poor excuse for a human being.

You both know that most of what Rapid blames me for is completely untrue.  I got pulled into that CB from another game... but Rapid doesn't listen to anyone once he's grabbed onto his delusions.

And you both know that he's turned down CB challenges from me countless times.  I can even dig down in the Battle League and point out a few....

So please, don't tell me that he's just defending his clan.  He's an arrogant child that needs some medication to quiet the voices in his head...  

And while this may be starting in on something for him to defend, I'll point out that he jumped into that skill conversation and started insulting me... and claiming that I was AK bashing, when it was nothing of the sort.  And I honestly wish he'd just go away again because then people wouldn't talk about him and nobody would have to even think about him...

Loth... I think you speak much truth.

All you do is spend your energy to try and turn people on me but what happens grifter?  They end up turning on you!  So while you still waste time to try and turn people on me on a thread posted by a respectable *DAMN Monitor, it just goes to show your mission is endless and it is behaviour we've comed to understand your childish brain will always act out.  So while you think you're getting the upper hand, all you're getting is back handed like the gossiping bitch that you are.  Now stay down, you belong there. >:(

Really Retardo... tell me more... who's turned on me?  More of those voices in your head speaking to you??



I know it really burns your ass... but I think I get more respect then Bondo... and I too am a *DAMN Moderator (not "monitor" you brainless twit)

As for the rest of the filth that you spout....  Retardo, you can't argue with the truth, so you, yourself is the little gossip whore here.  All one has to do is to read your web site to see that.  It's full of gossip, rumors and out right lies.  I've pointed them out for you before... all you can do is ignore it... and try to redirect the conversation with petty insults (which you aren't even very good at).

That didn't work in high school... what makes you think it will work now?

Grow up... face the truth... take your medication... whatever it takes.  

Like I said before.... I actually have come to pity you...

i figured it out!!!
i know why rapid  thinks everyone is bashing him!

wait, i'm not ripping on him here, i think i have the real reason.

we bash rapid constantly, and by now, i bet rapid(and typhy too) are used to any thread dealing with ak or rapid will have some barb directed at them somewhere

example: i was talking with typhy, remarking that it was odd not seeing ak at or near the top of the bl.(this was a little while ago) typhy instantly whent on the defencive and it took me a few min. to try and talk him down out of this position. i never meant any thing by the comment, i just said it was strange

so there fore i have coe to believe that it is a kneejerk response that  rapid and typhy feel insulted or assume that they have been insulted. after all if i had been constantly bashed like they have, i might react the same way as well.

Come on Grifter, let's try and keep away from just insults, and actually say things that mean somthing, if we wanna get into just insults, this will get even stupider than it already is.

OMG I Feel ignored. I finally Say Some thing intellegent and no one Cares What the hell is up with that?
Grifter or rapid For this long bashing of each other one of you has to Be the better man and Stop making Come backs and shit Just stop. you will Be Better  person.


--- Casper ---

although i like both grifter and Rapido, im not gonna jump on either side. Both of them have helped me in the past in some way. I think that they both provoc each other and there is no way to stop it. So you both dont like each other, let it be. let it go. ?As for the gossip, face it!!! the both of you are gossip queens.

btw, grif, when u get a chance look at this thread and tell me what u think, i respect and trust what you have to say.
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=GR&action=display
&num=1026431609

Personaly, I think that having the majority of the threads being Rapid vs a lotta people is not good.

typhy,

any word yet from the guy who was duped by KOS (scott)?

Lilly

None yet.

Voo... when the subject comes up, I'll voice my opinions on Rapid, because he's crossed way too many lines with me.

But I don't bring the subject up.  I don't really want to hear him or about him, because it always starts bullshit that takes forever to end and never gets resolved.  (he isn't going to change and they'll probably contine to not CB us)

Typhy,
The fact that so many vocal people seem to have a problem with Rapid should tell you something.  It should tell him something too, but he doesn't want to listen.  He thinks he's pretty uncapable of doing wrong... and that we should all "deal with it".

 Hi Lillith...who are you?

Actullay Grifter, That doesn't tell me anything, The reason, is because out of those people who are bashing Rapid, I only have respect for 2 of them, A little for you, ( A lessening ammount ), and a fair ammont for Ultimo, I really don't mind if you and Rapid fight, If you two fight, I will respect both of you, however, when it comes down to insults and personal comments, thats what annoys me.

Respect for them or not, it should still send a message.  Especially when you know for a fact some of the things said are true.

As for your lessining respect for me... if you bother to read Rapid's insults towards me (you know, the guy that's even insulted my wife)... then I would hope that your respect for him goes down at least as much.  

If not, then what you said doesn't quite ring true.

Grifter, stfu and stop trying to paint a pretty picture.  I fought fire with fire and you're the one that choose to be a dick to me.  When I asked you about our incident with SWAT, instead of being cool, you choose to insult me, call me a noob and act like a total asshole.  You ever heard of "1st impressions last forever"  You did a good job to portray the asshole you really are.  Now it's funny seeing you defend yourself as if you're not, because you act it out even more making you look more stupid! ;D  

I called you and Oso out specifically due to your mouths.  Don't go pawning off this CB to your teamates so you can later say "I wasn't in that CB or it would've been different"  We're gonna prevent that from happening by having you in that CB for once and for all.  It is funny how you say we are the ones that don't want to have the CB, yet you're the one saying "CB my teamates!, they are the same as me"  LMAO ;D  They don't talk shit like you and oso have Grifter, so I have nothing against them.  To see them in a CB, would just be regular games.  To see you in a CB, would have a purpose of killing the biggest shit talker known to GR.

Fist, I don't talk shit Rapid... you do.  How many people here see me hump... or even rub it in when I get a 7 and 8 kill game.... NONE... because I don't do it.

Second, you were the dick.  You accused me of masterminding the whole thing.  You wouldn't listen.  And I never use the word "noob"  We kept telling you it wasn't me.. and that you were confused as to which SWAT you were talking about... buy you'd never listen.. even to your own clan mates.  So, that would make you the asshole.

Thrid, come get the 4 v 4 pal... and I'll be there.  I've never said I wont.  What I said is you wont dictate terms of a CB to me or us.  We are a clan, period, end of story.  You want this to be a grudge match, find, I'll pick your partner, cause I got the guy in mind.  Otherwise, CB us.  Take your pick.  I'll go either way.

Grifter, the SWAT misunderstanding was resolved a long time ago, but thanks for pointing out that your grudges run so deep.  Your team won by forfeit!  Big wooopty wooop woooop!  Our team was under the impression they were doing a fun CB, and when you told them otherwise, they left and you took the win by forfeit.  Wow, such a good win! ;D  Anyways, your team won then, it is now that we're talking about.

You have never laid off me even after me and you met and agreed to lay off each other.  Of course you couldn't keep a man's promise since you're such a bitch.  Now you find yourself using all your energy to paint a ugly picture of us for all to view.  What's funny, it's that only a handful are even watching your bs picture.  What's funnier, you think you painted a good picture! LMAO ;D  Go ahead and keep trying to double talk your way out of this, but the challenge has been set:

I called you and oso out to CB to back up your big mouths.  

You then called me out to a 4 on 4, which I will be happy to do after we do this 2 on 2.  

Now what will you do?  Probably come up with some BS as usual...   I'll just sit back, and watch you at work! ;D

when did you call us out rapid? and were you talking to  "SECT Oso has left Game Ranger."?

Well Mr. I act like I don't know what's going on and never seen you challenge me Oso, here it is:



This is Present.  Not talking about Past so you might want to stay in the same page with us Oso, rather than flare up on your misunderstandings.  Now I called your crew of 2 Big Shit talkers out.  Lets see this handled on the BattleField where this game is actually fun and not in these forums were this game is actually lame. >:(

You just get me the times, and I'll be there.

AH Now i see youre GOD  or the BL rapid, i didnt know you could choose who plays for another clan. Jeez rapid you are a fool and we see the challenge, the question is, willy ou actually back it up, cuz i have seen this before on the forums and when we confront it, you seem to back out of it. so instead of trying to act liek you wont back down see us on GR and challenge us there.

Theres a certian point where total stupidity actually becomes funny, in an annoying sort of way, Thats what Oso's post there is. Let's try this again: Rapid is stating the members who are giving us crap, It's not as if he's just picking who plays for you, He's picking out the players who are talking the crap, and asking them for the battle. Now, please, try and absorbe that through your thick skull and into your small brain.

Okay, sorry Oso that I insulted you, however, when one makes a comment like that, about somthing that would make perfect sence if you use a little commen sence... Well, it just gets a little annoying.

LoL Typhy! ;D  You hit it right on the money!  I am not choosing, I am calling you 2 specifically out.  Also I was courteous enough to inform you which 2 of us will be |?ggressively Killing| both of your Big Mouths.  Thanks and seriously Oso, get some psychological help.  You're loosing it and you're starting not to see it...   Sad how blind some become under the heat of a battle... ::)

I don't wanna get into just insults and things like that, Just facts and opinions, not insults, Rapid wtf is with YIM? You message me, I respond, and it says that you're offline...

whoa now that i read my post it doesnt make sense, sorry i dont proof read my post. that post has too many errors in it that make it sound all funky, my bad

and for being blind under the heat of battle..... what battle....? we are battling here? oh jeez.. and typhy i dont care you can insult me all you want there doesnt really bother me, but i see you said sorry, so i see you are a bigger man than most others here.. oh well i am blabbling again i think...

Oso, I would recoment that you get an account if you wanna continue posting here like you did today, It makes things faster and easier.

nah

Lol, Just a sugestion to make things easier.

And I think I was perfectly clears as well Retardo...

If this is a grudge match you are calling Oso and I out on... Typhy wont be your partner... I have a different one in mind.  I have the right to say who I have a problem with just as much as you do....

If it's a normal CB... then anything goes....

This is awsome, I think we might have to bring back the RSC!!!! (romulus spell checker for all you noobs)

TSC should work

reconmend*

Okay guys, this is really sad, when Bondo starts a thread called: "Enough Rapid Bashing" it shouldn't turn into a Rapid bashing thread. Grifter, let's take a look at your first post:
You say that the first time that you met Rapid he insulted you, of course, you fail to mention the reasons for this: You guys had just gotten me to say "yes" to a cb. Of couse, I didn't realize that this was a ladder cb, before the battle started, I said that I couldn't do it as a ladder cb, you said "If you don't do it, then you forfit"; What you did was take advantage of our inexperience. I said over and over that we couldn't do it as a ladder. And nowhere did you ever mention that if we hadn't already started the battle, we could leave. You never mentioned that. You just took advantage of the fact that we were newbies to the ladder as for this was our first Battle League. That is when I lost respect for your clan, right there, a good clan would have told us the rule, Rapid came out and was mad because you had just cheat his clan out of a battle. He had a right to be really mad about that. Interesting how you only mention the small part of things that make you look good and Rapid look bad.

Also, many people may find his "joking" offensive. ?He doesn't care. ?That's insulting.  - Well, that's a really personal comment, That's just his sence of humor, so if you don't like it: 3 words: Get over it.

The reason that Bondo isn't bashing Rapid is because he realizes that in these forums what Rapid is doing is just defending himself and his clan. Also because Bondo realizes that there is no reason to bash Rapid.

You say: "It was much nicer when people wern't bashing Rapid", Exactly Grifter, then why do you join into it?

Basically, what all you haters and anti Rapid people are doing is making the smart people who used to be Rapid bashers stop bashing Rapid, I remember about 3 months ago, *DAMN  Bondo in one of his posts said: "Come on guys, Let's make this fair so that I can go back to thinking that Rapid's an asshole". When people just see a good person taking tons of crap and just defending himself, then they want to join in and defend them too.  Brain used to have almost every post be anti Rapid, now very few of them are.

Loth, Let's take a look at your post:  You say "He has never told the truth about somthing that he doesn't like, well, right here, I've got somthing that Rapid said on our site about an event that he disliked: * March 29th * |?K| vs.?KotA Clan Battle. After Calling out ?KotA, *R?pid?*, Typhy <??> & *G?k????p?r* <??> took on the 3 on 3 challenge and were defeated in a Heart Pounding OverTime 5-6 20-23. Congratulations ?KotA on their win and excellent CB, and Good Going *R?pid?*, Typhy <??> & *G?k????p?r* <??> for Representing the |?ggressive Killers| to the fullest on this exciting CB.

Pretty well written post in terms of there aren't many things that I can take out of it to use against you, however, right here you say: At any rate, I enjoyed the cathartic quality of the recent Rapid-bashing, but I've got no interest in continuing it beyond this point. - That is very good Loth, now why don't you stop it? Just stop it, then others will stop, then it will be over. If you want things to end, then you've got to stop them.

Good Mysterio, all sound points.

Loth: What the heck happened to "I don't want it to continue anymore", odd, that you're back and doing it again, Pehaps you should stop it. "He has to defend himself  because he's an ass to everyone". Actually, a while ago, ( 5-6 month ) Rapid used to bust into Caps a lot and things like that. He hasn't done that in a long time, and in the last few months, I haven't seen Rapid do anything that you guys should be bashing him about in the forums. Well, I guess that he does cause more than his share of trouble considering that there are over 1,000 of them, and about 950 don't cause trouble. However, if Rapid causes more than his share, you're way past your share.

Very good post Infection.

Casper: Rapid is A really Guy , 1, in a sentence, only names should be capitialized. 2: What the hell is that supose to mean. Do you make your posts like this just to annoy me?  

Anarchy, I asume that you post is a joke... I sure hope so.

Okay Myst, Thats fine, Fine post.
Casper, I'm not even gonna read it.

Anarchy, I hope that's a joke also.

End of part 1 so that I can start part 2 with Grifter again.

Beginning of Part 2.

Grifter, let's see if this one is as stupid as your first one:
No Grifter, I'm not aware of that, I am aware that you make posts attacking him unprovoked, like this one.

"I've never attacked |?K| as a clan." Right Grifter... Then what was with those posts back during the AK vs SWAT incodent?

Actually, he will listen, you've just gotta be polite and talk with respect to him, Respect isn't. "Shut the fuck up retardo".

I can find so many times that SWAT denied us, including one where you denied us a 2v2, beacuse you said that you don't do 2v2s, then you start one against a clan ( I think that it was M7 ). We've perhaps denied you a fair ammount, Perhaps you should start contacting me. If I'm not on, then don't bother asking anyone, 'cause I will be there against SECT, Fact.

All that he is doing is defending his clan, and himself, When Rapid isn't being bashed, you all don't mind him, then he does 1 thing wrong, and there are 8 threads against him. Medication  to quite the voices in his head, Gosh, I never knew that you had anything in commen.

And the last part is just plain stupid, So I won't even respond to it.

"Loth... I think you speak much the truth". Yes. Compared to you he does.

Rapid: Exactly what I've said many times, you turn people like Bondo into supporting Rapid.

Grifter: Foolish, Don't get into just insults with Rapid, once you do that, you're totaly losing all forms of reason, and just isults, I guess that when you can't win by reason, go to insults, that's what you've done.

Yes Grifter, Rapid made a stupid spelling mistake, we all make them. You think that you get more respect than Bondo huh? I supose among other Spammer, ***Looks at Brain***, then your probaly do, however, among people who appriciate intelegent posts, ( yes, I am 13, my spelling sucks ). Bondo has far most respect.

Grifter, the rest of your post shows that you've givven up all forms of reason and just gone to random insults, so I won't even comment on it,

Actually Brain, Part of that is true, when people bash on you as much as they do on me, Rapid, and our clan, you do get a little paranoid about threads that comment about the AK clan in a less than nice way.

However, the second part ( Your example )... Actually I belive what I said was: Lol, Yeah, I do over half of our battles, so when I'm not there, we become somwhat inactive. All that they needed is me to get back and give them a little jump-start. Those were my words. I have a Screen Shot of our conversasion because you had some sugestions about our website that I thought Rapid should see incase he was thinking of making changes. If you really think that's freaking out... Then you've got somthing a little messed up in your head.

Some parts good, some parts really dumb ( of your post Brain ). Which is a lot more than can be said for most of Grifter's.

Casper! Please, NO CAPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SENTENCE! Please!

End of part 2, also, end of Page 1.

Part 3.

Thanks Voods for a neutral post.

Lillith, as I said before, I am not mad at KoS, I guess that Viper did what he thought was right, I think it was a little unfair, but hey, whats done is done.

Oh look, it's a Grifter post again!  
Slightly inproved post.  Good enough to ignore it rather than comment on how bad it is, I think.

Infection's is a simple question, so I can't comment on it.

Grifter, I am sorry if Rapid has insulted you. If you want it to stop, please, stay out of threads that are just reapid bashing.

Wow, Rapid only used 2 Smiley faces in a post!

Ah, once again Grifter, They're getting better and better, let's see if this one follows this trend...

4v4 don't sound that bad. I let Rapid make the choices on things like that, I just play in them, The rest of the post is pretty self-explainatory.

3 Smileys by Rapid, I bet the next one with be 4.

A usual Oso comment, lacks a point, just quick but hard to understand.

Wow, only 1 smiley ;)

Yes, Let's settle this in the Battle Field, not just talk about it.

3 posts, same thing, a little Typhy vs Oso, no point really.

Oso actually reads one of his posts! ***Typhy writtes down date***

A few Oso's and Typhy's with no point regarding the subject.

A dumb insult by Grifter, and Grifter, who do you want to play instead of me?

Whatever Viper.

End of Final part.

Thanks for your time.

I hear lots of ppl talking about someone called "retardo" who exactly is this?

"grifter down south"
that sounds all nasty :o

From what I can piece together, it's Grifter, however, I'm not sure.

Damn, Grifter's done his share of two part posts, but I don't even think the wordy bastard  himself has ever done a three parter.  Good job Typhy. ;)

holy shit typhy, when the hell did you become the next grifter(hell you've oudtone even him with this beast of a post)

very good job on making the whole thing easy to read and not one huge block of text

mysterio redardo is another name for rapid, at least from the impressions i have gotten


and lastly back to typhy
the only beef that i have with rapid now is the insane usage of smilies. but he is getting better ;)

Well, his usage of Smileys couldn't get much worse! ;)

ok,

i don't post here often, but it's time for someone to open a little light, since grift wont be here to defend some of this absolute shit.

typhy,  you want it simple and without insults, let's try it.

in the post about skill, rapid came in and insulted grifter.  grifter made no mention of any clans being good or bad.  no mention of ak at all.  show me these 4 clans he talked about, leaving out the fifth.  and even if he was ranking, who said you know who'd fifth in his opinion?  so you are saying that since he didn't mention ak, he was insulting you?

going back to the first time rapid jumped in on grifter, grifter got pulled out of a game with me to go cb you guys.  he set up nothing.  someone (matt i think) came into my game and got him to cb.  everyone was already in the game waiting for him.  so there was no way that grifter was the one that set up that cb with you, or the one that explained the rules to you.  that was said back then and is still true.  rapid has always blamed grifter personally for this.  even though he said more then once (and even ak's that were there) that it was matt and oso that set it up.

i've read what was said after.  i know that two of you admitted to assassin that you thought it was real, and the question didn't come up until you lost all 5 games on your server.  

I've read the posts here, and the posts on rapids site.  rapid clearly ducked the cb back in january, and clearly was the one being insulting back then.  or are you saying he was polite, even back then?  and if you read it that way, you need to learn to read.

if you say that grifter has attacked ak, show it.  paste it right here.  because i don't believe it.  that's a big difference between rapid and grifter.  grifter will pull up the post where rapid said those things.  grifter was there for that clan battle, rapid wasn't.

you and rapid seem to make the facts up to fit your opinions.  oso offers to 1 v 1 against rapid, and you say that's not a test of skill.  grifter wants a 4 x 4, and that's not good either.  

so, what you are saying is that it's rapid's way or no way.  what arrogance.

Perhaps you should try actually reading other threads and reading all of the posts before you come in and post like this, |?K| has been perfectly willing to reason and compromise with most anyone over anything, you'll notice that we played KoS earlier in this Battle League, we played them without me, and we played them on equal hosting. Aparently, ( I wasn't there, I don't know what was intended to be said etc. ) KoS Ultimo said that they could have a rematch on |?K| host. After a long time of fighting over this, we were willing to back down. That's over and done, now you're comming here and saying that " we say it's Rapid's way or no way."
Also, you say that Grifter set up nothing. That is somwhat true, however, during the battle, and before the battle, Grifter was the one doing the talking for SWAT, he's the one who took advantage of our inexperience. That issue is over and dead now, Once again, another thing that we let drop. Ooops, Forgot somthing, your comment of "I know you admitted to Assassin that you thought that it was real", Whatever, we said nothing of that sort. And actually, the argument was before the battle started, after 5 games, I just decided, "screw these assholes, I'm outta here". I have a lot of respect for the former SWAT's playing skills. However, for their social ones... it's a diffrent story. Mind you, I do have a lot of respect for some things that Grifter has done, I think that his www.macclans.com is  a favor to every RS player, He is a good guy to talk to on GameRanger, we just don't get along in these forums.  I won't even talk about the other things in your post, to me it just looks like a typical post from someone who is making up facts, trying to prove somthing that they're clueless about.