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Title: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 26, 2001, 07:17:09 pm Yeah yeah i know you guys said you arent planning on any GR mod right now but we all know you wont be able to keep away for long... so i just want to check what weapons people would want in such a mod.
First off it would have to be reliable weapons (throw away that SA80 private!!!) or really new weapons to be battle tested (OICW anyone?) Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Grendel_BHZ on November 26, 2001, 08:21:13 pm I'd like to see some nice HK rifles...like the G3A3. concidered somewhat old now....but, in my opinion still a great rifle. I'd also like to see the SF Support Weapon or the Land Warrior System. of course the OICW would be at the top of my list. but, its already in the game....also, I was wondering about the HK G36...its good for tactical swat teams in urban anti terrorist warfare....but, is it rugged enough to be a good field assault rifle? personally, I'm not sure....if anyone has any input...send it this way.
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: AMBROSE on November 26, 2001, 08:31:24 pm I think the game is perfect! I don't want any mods with GR personaly. But that doesn't mean everyone thinks like I do. ;)
-AMBROSE ;) Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Suicide_Commando on November 26, 2001, 09:14:17 pm There already is a working mod for GR. Here's the link http://www.piestactics.com/files/archive/dl_file.asp?id=3458
In my opinion it's not very good. The weapon sounds are pretty bad and the names of the wep's don't show up in game properly. The models themselves look pretty good though. Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 27, 2001, 04:24:40 am Well its always been my motto "if you dont like the mod but like the models, use them in your own mod"... and that usually works fine... as long as you dont publish the mod
Im d/l the file now... if the guns look good ill just mod them into my own little private mod... Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 27, 2001, 04:37:36 pm Who said models havd to be attractive... WELL I DID!!! ;D
those guns did not look all that good man... but then again ive just been spoiled by coco and cobras mods 8) Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Suicide_Commando on November 27, 2001, 05:30:19 pm They're weren't horrible imo. You're prolly right though , we are all spoiled :) Damn you Coco and Cobra!!!! ;D
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 28, 2001, 02:55:59 pm Some of the guns i would like to see (except the usual re-modeling of the standards):
Thompson (still used by SEALs) Mp5k (Sniper secondary) Uzi Beretta PM-12S Carl Gustav M45b H&K G3k H&H G36 (it is rugged enough... the german army uses it as standard) Steyr AUG FA MAS HK 53 SIG 551 AR-18 H&K G3 SG/1 Galil Sniper M21 Widowmaker (silenced with whisper ammo) FN MAG Ultimax 100 (silenced) M60 E3 Stoner Armscor Grenade Launcher Silenced versions of the AKS74U and M4 oh and the SF support weapon... ;D Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Suicide_Commando on November 28, 2001, 03:47:09 pm That's a pretty good list. I'd add to it some Israeli assault rifles and the Negev and maybe some former Warsaw Pact states weapons. An AN-94 would be cool too
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 28, 2001, 04:07:00 pm How could we forget the Tavor and Tavor Micro??? they are cool... and i would like to have the FN2000 in there too but i think that maby that breaks what i said about the guns being rugged and stuff since i dont know enough about the FN2000 to make that assessment
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Suicide_Commando on November 28, 2001, 04:48:23 pm Well I guess I should have been more clear in my last post. I was thinking along the lines of/about Galil's , Tavor , Magal etc.
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 28, 2001, 04:29:42 pm Then again I dont think it would be such a good idea for any kind of special forces unit to go into any muslim country armed with Israeli weapons... 8)
just a thought Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: AMBROSE on November 28, 2001, 04:38:40 pm HEY GUYS, post at the EAGER post so we can get coco to release the Pistol mod, some kinda tradition.
-AMBROSE Title: New mod for gr..comeing soon Post by: SST_Piccolo on November 28, 2001, 06:20:53 pm i am actualy working on a ghost recon mod right now, its a weapon/mission mod focusing on navy seals ..it will feature new sounds,models, kit images. an hopefully new Reticules .. although at the moment that is not possible
here are some of the weapons included Blaser R93 LRS2 KAC SR25 Mk11 mod 0 AWS-Covert Model -- HK G36 Steyr Aug A1 DSA SA58 OSW HK G3 -- Hk MP5 Navy +Suppressed Model -- HK Mk23+SD version Glock 21+SD version Ruger Mark II Intregally Suppressed an here are a few models for your viewing plesure (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/glck1.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/glck2.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/glck3.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/sigp2261.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/sigp2.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/blaseringame.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/mk11gr.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/mp5n1.jpg) Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 28, 2001, 06:47:40 pm mmmm... sweet 8)
no possibility of you e-mailing me those models to play around with for a while til the mod is released huh? ;D Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: SST_Piccolo on November 28, 2001, 06:52:06 pm lol dont think so, i dont like my models used in other mods but mine, unless a close friend request one.. i did some of the models in TOTTv2-101 for urban opps an the upcomeing TOTTv3 for that matter..
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 28, 2001, 06:53:45 pm btw. i noticed that you are not using hi-res on your characters in the game... this doesnt mean that youll be going half way on the gun textures right?
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 28, 2001, 06:56:32 pm I didnt mean using them in any kind of mod to be released... just little old me playing with them... all by my lonesome... oh man now i feel depressed... igoto get a life... :o
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Suicide_Commando on November 28, 2001, 08:12:03 pm Models look good to me Piccolo. How far are you on the mod so far?
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: SST_Piccolo on November 28, 2001, 09:13:52 pm thanks commando, i would say 20 % .. i got alot of the weapon files setup, most kit images finished.. i need some models now an to work on values for weapons. an no josef they are high rez, well a medium i would say..but still look decent ingame, i just recieved a geforce 2 mx400 today, an they look alot better, befor i had a voodoo 3 2000..which has its own problems with gr.. anyway, there are a few screens of the current models since i got my vid card below ..an some kit images, sorry they are small, i cropped images to save file sizes
(ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/blaser_gr.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/stoner_new.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/mp5n_gr.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/kit5.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/kit4.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/kit3.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/kit2.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/kit1.jpg) (ftp://66.85.43.66/piccolo/aug_gr.jpg) btw, i added some more ghillie rap to sr25..if ya cant tell Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Suicide_Commando on November 28, 2001, 09:32:15 pm Those pics look really good. Please keep us posted as to the progress of the mod.
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: SabreSix on November 29, 2001, 02:44:18 am "A tribe's greatness is measured by how fearsome their enemies be" - Bearclaw Grizzly Adams (Blood kin to the grizzly bear that bit Jim Bridger's ass)
I'm seeing a lot of message traffic suggesting weapons for a GR mod. Almost all of these concentrate on NATO/Western types. The Russians are currenly using their experience in Chechnya to field a whole new generation of small arms designs. Damned good ones I might add. I have had the opportunity to handle many of these items recently and I am both impressed by the ingenuity displayed and appalled at the thought of facing them across some distant field. I would suggest the following: All four versions of the OTS-14 "Groza"(Thunderstorm),both with and without the attached GP-30 "Obuvka" 40mm G/L 9A-91 short assault rifle with and without the GP-95 G/L V-94 heavy sniper rifle (12.7x107mm) SVU bullpup sniper rifle SVDK sniper rifle 9.3x64mm(ballistics like .375 H&H Magnum!) VSS "Vintorez" (Threadcutter) silent sniper system AS-VAL silent assault rifle AN-94 AKSU AKSU-SD Vikhr small assault rifle BIZON, BIZON2, BIZON3 Though by no means all inclusive, all of the above listed systems are currently in use. Any attempt to model a future conflict with or in Russia should take these into account. Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 29, 2001, 04:21:08 am a little constructive critisism (oooh that was a hard word ;)): the silencer on the mp5 ought to be a little bigger if you ask me...
but the guns are niiiiiiice ;D Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: AMBROSE on November 29, 2001, 08:28:15 am MAN I CAN'T BELEIVE PICCOLO CAME TO THE SITE!!!!!!!
wow, im in aw of his holy godlike presence........ -AMBROSE :o Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: SST_Piccolo on November 29, 2001, 05:43:04 pm lol didnt know anyone actualy knew about me, alot of people dont i supose.. anyway, josef..its close to size, thats a KAC 9mm supressor made for the mp5 series
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 29, 2001, 06:49:57 pm Wow... so is it just as effective as the other silencers on the market while being smaller or does it make a trade-off?
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on November 29, 2001, 06:55:53 pm aaaah... so you were on the Renegade Legion mod team... then i didnt have to upload that pic of a gun on your ftp... "heres another one for you to play with" i think i called it... oh well, i do have some other pics of it, one with a silencer...
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Cocobolo on November 30, 2001, 01:11:40 pm Damn I read this post too late, all the pics are gone. Serves me right for busting my ass all week, lol :(
Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: ViX on December 04, 2001, 10:19:14 pm coconut oil, i just hit reply and all the pics showed up. where i didnt see them on the forum... so they are there. just now showing for some reason... slow board i guess.
why i hit reply in the first place. Piccolo said: Quote lol didnt know anyone actualy knew about me, alot of people dont i supose you actually think RS people dont know you? you silly man Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: DG 107th VST on December 04, 2001, 11:40:20 pm ::)
My personal favourites that I would like to see are; HK G 36C and SD HK MPK 9 SD Barret 50cal sniper (Got a buddie who has actually fired one, his main comment... LOUD!!! even with double ear protection) HK UMP 45 W accessories Amphibious MP5 SD HK MP5 AH w CMAG HK MP 2000 SD 53 MICV Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on December 05, 2001, 04:04:30 am Uh... dude... the Barret is already in the game...
its on one of the heroes (Ibrahim) Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: SabreSix on December 06, 2001, 09:59:01 pm "Barret 50cal sniper (Got a buddie who has actually fired one, his main comment... LOUD!!! even with double ear protection)"
That's because, in order to be effective the compenator diverts muzzle gases to the sides and rear. It's that or get the stock driven through your shoulder. Action and reaction. No free rides. You can actually feel it in your sinuses and, if you mouth is open, on the soft palate. It's actually even worse to the sides of the firing position. Title: Re: What weapons we want to see in GR mod by DTD? Post by: Josef_Porta on December 07, 2001, 03:28:12 am well the damage value is (as with many other weapons in the game) wrongly calculated... it is practically the same as a 7,62N value-wize... but i have tweaked it to make it better, but i still use the mod that was made (cant remember by who) that makes it shoot explosive rounds (ive taken away the explosion tho) cose the death animations are soooo much cooler with that mod.
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