Title: how do the good get good? Post by: Brain on July 25, 2002, 01:02:54 pm ok, this was supposed to be post 4 in my master plan, but rapid screwed up the order, but it's all good now.
This thread is mainly for you RS gods out there (you know who you are). I?m asking how did you get so good at the game? Is it teamwork, a good connection, good at dealing with lag, good at dancing, good luck, or just raw skill? If you can tell us a little trick or two that would help us play better, please do so In addition, if it's not too much to ask could you please point out some of the noob mistakes that we make, so we can work on those? Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: *DAMN Silent Killer on July 25, 2002, 01:07:11 pm be as Grifter
not as rapid =P Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Typhy on July 25, 2002, 01:07:37 pm Good dancing is a key, another thing is reflex, as soon as I see a guy, within a second I have my reticule on his head and are firing. Being good under laggy conditions is also key. And when you're an IP joiner from Juneau Alaska, you learn to play with lag, also, you've gotta know what all you're carying and use them propperly. It used to be, I would rush someoen and die, And I would say to myself, had I throw a gernade, I could've had him easily. With more experience, I've learned to do that. 6 months ago, I would be really happy with a 6 kill game, I would be like "Oh yeah!!" now all that I say is "Good game". Personaly, I think that reflex might be the most inportant thing.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: *DAMN Silent Killer on July 25, 2002, 01:10:47 pm so your from alaska and u IP join what is the average ping u get?
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Typhy on July 25, 2002, 01:12:14 pm Well back when I was on GR, I would join it if it was under 400. 'Cause I IP join, I can't tell what it is, probaly around 450 though.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Brain on July 25, 2002, 01:12:46 pm Heh, my best is a 5-kill game on castle
Damn do I suck. Normally I?m ecstatic at a 4-kill game Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: *DAMN Silent Killer on July 25, 2002, 01:14:27 pm my highest on my host is 5 and on someone elces 4
But for rs =P 11 on my host lol and 7 on someone elces Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Typhy on July 25, 2002, 01:18:45 pm And we all know how he got those 11, the old Romulus trick! unplug your internet, and go peg them off!
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: WeaSelFlinK on July 25, 2002, 01:47:46 pm Quote And we all know how he got those 11, the old Romulus trick! unplug your internet, and go peg them off! Does that actually work? Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Typhy on July 25, 2002, 01:49:54 pm I would think so, At least I've heard that it does, I've never actually tried it.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: kos.viper on July 25, 2002, 02:05:18 pm It's all in the wrist... and the video card ;)
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on July 25, 2002, 02:22:08 pm nah, it is all about using a l33t 333iMac and a 56k modem (my original hookup)...the plan is to get a DSL modem and continue your dominancy. As for Brain, only a 5 kill? pffft.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: +-KoS-+Rebel on July 25, 2002, 02:44:43 pm I dont back VIpers view of a good vieo card cause mine sucks ass. Time is the greatest factor. Over time and learning you get good.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: *DAMN Silent Killer on July 25, 2002, 03:17:07 pm no typhy i aculy just owned them....
no cheating like rommulus heheeh :-X wait a sec how dose typhy know romullus Typhy whats your first GR account ID Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Bondo on July 25, 2002, 04:24:05 pm Well, can't help out about RS but for R6 the way to be good is to combine natural talent, a good computer and connection, and endless hours playing against SiX members...worked for me.
Title: Practice makes Perfect! Post by: AK_Rap1d on July 25, 2002, 04:45:11 pm To be good at this game, you have to play a lot of this game. I have good/hand eye coordination and catch on quickly to any game. I think it really pays off if you have good hand/eye coordination. In the games, it is unpredictable what your opponent will do, so you go by the guess game. You think of all the times you were playing on their side of the coin (If you were blue, think about when you were gold and viceversa) and the spots you liked from that color. Then most likely, your opponent is hanging out at one of those spots and BOOM, you can surprise them. You see, this is a game of outsmarting and good shooting. It pays to first be able to hit targets far as well as close in an extremely effective way. Once you have that, you can learn to out think your opponent. With all that said, you can see why it takes a long time to become good at the game, being that there are SOOOO many maps. Good luck and Good shooting! 8) Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Destructo on July 25, 2002, 06:07:55 pm You want to get good, stop being so fuckin stupid.
When the ppl u play with go right, u go left. Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Bondo on July 25, 2002, 07:28:50 pm Dest, if you are good, when they go right, you go right and kill them. Stupid RS and its non-confrotationalism. ;)
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Mr. Lothario on July 25, 2002, 09:32:37 pm I try to think ahead. If the game's been going for a minute or so, then the enemies can be in a greater range of places than they could if the game was only ten seconds old.
I try to cover my teammates' backs. If there's someone sniping around a corner, I'll go the other way to try to keep them safe so they can work. If they're charging across an expanse of open ground, I'll stay behind and cover them. BTW, when you run past a sniper, such as heading out of the warehouse in Storage Depot, don't stay in their line of fire. Sidestep a little. They can cover you if you're out of the way, you know. After you die, always watch the best people on your team play. Watch their technique. When they do something you wouldn't have thought of, learn from it. If you die without seeing who killed you, try to figure out where they were standing or hiding. Next time, you'll know that there may be someone there. Don't be predictable. If you use a strategy that works really well, don't use it again immediately. If the other team is skilled, they will be defending against that trick. A game or two down the road, after having some other tactics thrown at them, they'll be lax with regards to the first tactic. Then that one is eligible again. Play around with guns until you find one that you feel good with, and then practice like hell with that one. You should know instinctively exactly how that gun behaves under all conditions. Then you can make instantaneous decisions about whether to duck for cover or not, depending on whether you're likely to hit, or whether the reticule will be too slow, etc. Use a light touch with full auto. More than a few rounds from most guns and your accuracy is shot to shit. Little tiny bursts will serve much better. I heartily recommend using single shot. This doesn't apply to the PDW and the MP5/A5, since they're accurate even on full auto. For larger guns, such as the Aug and M4, however, single shot is a boon. It forces you to aim very well, so it emphasizes skill. You will get better. More to the point, you will conserve ammo. On rock 'n' roll, you waste fifteen or twenty bullets killing one person. As everyone knows, reloading = death. On single shot, a kill takes one to three bullets. You can get four or five kills without needing to reload. Not to mention you look badass using a G3A3 on single shot. ;D I always switch over to rock 'n' roll before running into a close combat situation. When you're dancing three feet away, throwing fifteen or twenty rounds is fine. And remember, grenade blasts don't go around walls. Always be aware of where the nearest cover is, and when you see or hear (headphones help a lot in RS) a nade hit near you, get to the nearest cover. After it goes off, I usually charge since the thrower is generally standing there like a doofus with a grenade in his hand, or is still pulling out their gun, and you can perforate him mercilessly. Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Cow on July 25, 2002, 10:47:52 pm Getting better is easy as playing a lot. I have been playing R6/RS for 3 years and i can compete with the best of the best (some better then others =). But if you are looking for a quick fix (2 weeks getting better) try using guns that normally sucks. I started to use the skorp a while back joking around but it helped me a lot because it made me appreciate (spelling) the PDW and once you start using the skorp for a while you get use to the 20 rounds and fast fire. then go back to a PDW which has 30 rounds and it feels like cake. I have now moved on from that and started using pistol only (skorp when endangered). Now even the skorp is cake and i feel spoiled using it. Just imagine me with a PDW, scary.
mooooo Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Geek USA on July 25, 2002, 11:53:15 pm the trick to RS is being smart. you learn to anticipate the common players response to every situation. just think with your brain, not you gun
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Typhy on July 26, 2002, 12:37:48 am Geek, that is true somtimes, however, you also have to know that there are some players that you can overpower with the gun, if someone has a 9mm pistol, and you have an M14, screw tactics, rush them.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Precious_Roy on July 26, 2002, 12:38:13 am I can't even begin to tell you how to win in RS... But there is a single piece of advice for r6. Bondo already stated it. (Play against SiXers) I will simplify it:
Put yourself at the disadvantage. Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Typhy on July 26, 2002, 12:41:44 am Hey, when it comes to R6, it doesn't matter who I play against, I am at a disadvantage anyway
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: electronicjo on July 26, 2002, 01:28:36 am Loth pretty much summed it up. All I can say is, use your sidearm!! There's a reason for it. If you ever get into a dance and the enemy runs out of ammo, pistol!! It's quicker than reloading and most of the time you can get 'em. If you suck with the pistol, GET BETTER!! Practice using the pistol, even if the game allows primaries. One more thing, think multiple targets. Most of the time, someone is always there to cleanup.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Mr. Lothario on July 26, 2002, 06:22:13 am Don't be afraid to hold on to your pistola for a little longer, either. I've seen lots of guys die because they chose to reload their primary rather than whipping out their pistola. I've seen other guys, who didn't make that mistake, die when they killed the first guy and then saw a second guy, but chose to retreat and reload their primary. Then, the second enemy just perforated their back while they were busy. Just keep in mind, if you can't fire, you can't defend yourself.
One thing I forgot, which ejo's mention of multiple targets reminded me of: zoom your minimap out far enough to see the whole level. Getting data on enemy locations from your teammates is extremely useful, and allows you to work like a team even if you've never played with them before. You're running around on the top floor of The Met, and you see that one of your teammates is heading up the left side of the pathway above the entrance. Then, a moment later, you see an enemy's dot on the right side. That means that your teammate is looking at the enemy, and is probably engaged in a firefight. You can swoop in to the right side of the pathway and pick the enemy off. Nice, neat crossfire, one dead enemy and hopefully one live teammate. No bound keys, no planning, no teamwork. Just paying attention to a zoomed-out map. The zoomed-out map is useful whenever your teammates see or detect (via HBS) an enemy. You get information for free, and can swoop in to catch the enemy unawares, or to back your teammate up, or to lay a trap. One more thing: DON"T BLOCK STAIRS AND DOORS! If you absolutely must stand on stairs or in a doorway, stand to one side so people can squeeze by. Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: SiX_Mr.Buffy on July 26, 2002, 12:24:53 pm hmmm, when I first got on GR a long time ago, all I did was play against the good clans. I remember, Blue, esp, dos, WLA (ahahha, no), and then as time grew on, SiX, dts, SEALs, and on and on. I guess you just have to know the maps, keep moving, prefire (especially on my imac), and you can also tell how peepo play from the first few rounds. I really dun remember when I joined SiX, it was a long time ago, I miss it, I just have to dig out the old mac and hit GR again. Oh wait, n/m, I remember when I joined SiX. I was in dts and then there was some kinda merger between SiX and dts, that didn't work out, but I joined SiX not too long after that. At our prime, we owned, late night games. Me, Kor, EZ, Jammy, Meph, Roy (the non-hbs whore). It was great times. Roy and his running around blind, great laughs..he'll never use hbs..but yeah, we would also have strats, call our moves, we knew how each of our team-mates played and we could rely on each other..that's what's a great team, among other times...but yeah, anyways, have to go to work now...
-Buffy Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: *DAMN Silent Killer on July 26, 2002, 01:51:18 pm hey buffy u were online that one day (jn missed his chance heeheheh) but will you ever return??
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: MacMan on July 26, 2002, 02:05:16 pm Damn Lothario, you just summed up almost every single GOOD piece of advise i would give. And now everybody knows :(.
but it's good to see someone has more than half a brain while playing RS (i get spoiled by all the noob kills i gotta make). Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on July 26, 2002, 02:13:30 pm One thing Lothario left out: Burst fire with automatic weapons. Any continuous firing over 3 bullets is absolutely useless unless you are perfroming the "spray n pray" techinque. After the first three leave the chamber, the rest spray everywhere over the map.
Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: Cow on July 26, 2002, 07:21:39 pm Meh that is all ok information but it is really in the diet. You must have your complex carbos and proteins to perform well in a CB or not. Gotta stick to your pastas, breads, rice, and yogurts. Stay away from the grease while playing your trigger finger could slip. Always stay hydrated by the time you feel thirsty your already dehydrated. The burgers, tacos and fast food are poison to a RS players diet and for those still in their youth greasey foods increases the chance of pimples and black heads. Those tips are ok but its all in the diet. Oh and stay away from cow products, milk is ok.
mooo Title: Re: how do the good get good? Post by: SiX_Mr.Buffy on July 27, 2002, 02:50:41 am I still have my mac in the basement, it's all just a matter of bringing it upstairs and plugging it in. When I have time I will come back and visit GR, play some old school R6.
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