*DAMN R6 Forum

Well, with Elandrion adding the feature to let us make clans be listed under inactive (and hidden from the ladder) I'd like to propose the following use of it and would also like to hear other's ideas.  I think all clans with no CBs played or no CBs for a month should be made inactive.  If they then play a CB they will be made active again and given the CB and stay active for at least a month.  This way inactive clans aren't shown on the ladder but keep their points.

I think it's a good idea.  The part about making them inactive if no updates for a month, and then if they come back, their points are still there.

The only part I don't agree with is the clans with 0 points... as if you are making them inactive after a month, that covers all.... but if they just have 0 points (or 10, whatever), they are a new clan and could be overlooked by other clans in cb's.

Also, one last point... if you hide them from the ladder.. there should be a list of clans that are registered (both active and inactive), So peole can see them, know who they are.

This is a good idea, I would however require all clans to perform in a cb at least once a week. That keeps the competetion going, the battles heated, and the players sharp. Or at least 3 times in a month, to be fair, but honestly, no clan can expect any results if they only cb once a month.

Yes, this is one thing I wondered about is if people would be able to tell the clan is registered (and thus legal to CB against).  And about not hiding the no CB clans, I suppose that is fine and that the month will cover it.

Kilzo, we don't require that all clans try to compete for #1 by battling often enough to get there.  I think one battle a month minimum to stay active allows for some casual clans to participate.

True true, I know that not all clans battle for first place, I just think it makes for a more active BL. But then again, Im not in a clan so this does'nt really affect me (yet).

Bondo I just sent you some suggestions about inactivity in my message. Well my idea doesn't  includes that we have now two possibilities to mark inactive clans: we can set them inactive or make them invisible.

I could imagine that we will have BL seasons. In a season a clan has to fight an amount of cb(depends on how long we would make a season). If he doesn't play any cb the clan would be banned for one season and appear on a list. But how could we use the inactivity feature? May if a clan gets a challenge but doesn't answer he will be set inactive but which consequnces should this have for the next season?

OR may we should use the inactive feature for the clans e.g.: if a clan goes on vacation the clanleader send us a mail so we can sign the clan inactive.

What do you think and what are your ideas how to use this two features?

Mauti

You weren't kidding when you said you posted these late at night  ;)

I like the idea of using the inactive to show everyone that the clan currently can't battle due to a vacation or what have you.

About a minimum required number of CBs, I'd say 10 would be fair for a 4 month season, and I think we should add that they must be against 10 unique clans and not 4 against three different clans or whatever.  By doing this it behooves the clan to accept challanges from all clans.  And yes suspension from the next season would be a proper punishment to insure this.

Good ideas all.

About the inactive, I like the idea about it being used for vacation / finals etc.

About not CB'ing enough.. yes, not allowed on the next season sounds right too.

About not accepting a challenge... maybe that goes something like you are forced inactive if you are challenged and fight more then one CB before fighting the challenge (number can be determined later).  My idea being that if it's a timing thing, they don't miss another oppertunity to CB.. but can't duck for too long either.  It may be a little complicated to script... but any challenge rule will be.

i'm not so shure bondo
what if you want to count rematches?
i think that  5 or 7 different clans would be enough

Any rematches wouldn't count for the minimum, which is important because it stresses playing many clans.  And you aren't limited to only 10 battles.

all good ideas ?
8) One thing i dont like is when a clan CBs  the same clan for example once a week just because they know they can win and earn points this form of earning points bothers me a little what do you think?

You score less points for beating a bad clan then you do for a good clan.  Therefore if they are only beating bad clans they won't be better than a clan that beats good clans.

Then this is just for the ladder then, not for the league stuff as well?  (based upon the points just talked about).

These seasons will just involve resets of the ladder in after each ends.  It isn't actually turning the BL into a scheduled league.

Well so lets use the inactivity feature for the clans who are on vacations...

If a clan doesn't play the required amount of cbs they will be banned for the next season.

Bondo you would like to have a 4month season with 10 games. I think thats to long and 10 games are to much. I don't want the BL to be very strict because you should battle if you want. It should be fun. Since 1.1.2002 over 150 cb have been played and if you look at the ladders over 50 percent have played at least 1 cb.

I would like to turn the BL so that the clans want to become the #1 also we should start cbing again hehe.

My suggestion would be to have very short season to make it always exciting. I would like to have 2 month seasons with 2 required games against different clans. to stay in the league. I think 2 cb aren't to much each clan should be able to meet at least once a month in GR.

I have read Destructos posting in the GG about moderators,BL,... and he is right to many guys take the BL or cb to serious they should be fun. I remember cbs against SEALs and EUR who were exciting and everyone had fun although we lost against SEALs.

2 cbs are required to force even the "lazy" clans to battle and maybe they like it.  2 are enough. What you all think? If a clan wants to become the number one and wants  a place in the "Hall of Fame"(I'll make a site in the BL section where the best 3 clans and the most active clan of each season are shown) they will play 100% more than 2 games.

However nothing is decided yet you can still post your opinions and suggestions thats only how I could imagine the new Battle League after the restart on 1st June.

Bye,

Mauti

Well, the thing about 2 month seasons is that the most battles by any clan would likely be 10 or less and it is hard to get a real winner in that time.  How about 4 months and 5 unique opponents as the requirements, or maybe 3 with 4.

Maut i find your idea  really good but maybe lets make the season 3 months it give the clans that did not battle a little more time to make the hall of fame, and the hall of fame is a very good idea

I see I see - probably 2 month are to short so lets do it 3 months and 3 required cbs against different clans.

ugh maybe I cause some misunderstanding with my mail: an inactive clan doesn't vanish from the ladder, it just can't be updated and it will be shown in grey letters in the Ladders!

*DAMN Elandrion

Yes, I guess I (and others followed suit) in thiking the inactive clan would be hidden. ?Any way to do that without deleting them? ?It would be nice not to have to have half the ladder of defunct clans (that still bother to claim they're active) and clans that haven't ever battled (*cough* DAMN ?;)).

Oh and Mauti, 3 month 3 clan sounds good, so there is one issue dealt with.  I'm still trying to find you on GR, I have friday off so I can maybe get on when you can, just tell me when and I'll be there and we can get the rules sorted out.

i'll set *DAMN inactive to show an example.

Elandrion

I have a good idea8) ?Why don't you just deduct a certain amount of points (like 5 or 10) per week that the clan is inactive for. ?That way you would have a fair punishment, delete the thought of banning a clan all together, and encourage clans to CB to not loose points:O ?Wouldn't that be logical??? ?Tell me what you guyz think:)

BTW, no negative points.  0 would be the lowest.

Elandrion,

I like it that way.  You know if they are still on the ladder.. but it's very clear who's active or inactive...  

I also like the Mauti / Bondo thread going that if they are inactive due to vacation etc.. that's when it's used... and if they just don't CB enough, they are droped from the next season (regardless of being active or inactive).

Rapid about the penality system you can't get negative points or 0 because you lose 10percent of the points you have. When you lose your first  cb you would have 10 - 10% = 10 * 0.9 = 9 points and with only one win you are ahead of all clans that didn't play or also lost their first cb because as you know for a win you get 10points +...+...

Bye,

Mauti

10% of 10 was 1 last time I checked

???

Can you explain to me the .9 please Mauti?

And I was talking about losing 5 or 10 points Weekly or Biweekly if that Clan fails to have a CB, with 0 being the lowest they can be deducted to, excluding Negative Numbers.  That would encourage More CB's and keep the #1 Spot Fresh for the Most Active Clan Winning the most CB's8)

10% of 10 =1
10-10% =9 (10-1=9)
dont ask me where the 10 * 0.9 came from (mb 10% of 9 * 10, but why would you do that mauti? mb the .9 represents 90%)
the math flows properly
the point doesnt

You subtract 10% of the current score when you lose.  Or in otherwords you have 90% of the score you had thus Original score times .9.  Simple enough?

Thanks Bondo.

lol there talk the maths genies  :D ;D

*DAMN Elandrion