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Title: Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: alaric on February 20, 2004, 10:23:07 am
I suggest that it be against moderator policy to delete posts or delete content from posts unless it's found absolutely neccessary. If it's off-topic, offensive, spam, flames, or whatever, just lock it and move it to a publicly accessible impound area where all can view it but not reply to it.

I've found this system works well on other forums (ex Something Awful Forums). This way there is a place people can look to know what not to post and it ensures that there is plenty of evidence to levy against someone who is consistantly a n00b. It also provides a forum with history, a deleted post is deleted history. For all intents and purposes the deleted post or portion of a post never existed.

Just my two cents.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on February 21, 2004, 09:36:01 am
I've seen that done here Alaric, and it didn't work well.  

You don't want to lock a thread, just because someone flamed it, and if you leave the flames, that just starts more shit.  

Many are moved to an area where all the Admins can see them, but I prefer leaving a message so that the person that made the post, and others, can see that crap is trimmed if it gets out of hand.  But as long as the post is left public, it's just encouraging people to respond (nothing stops them from starting new threads to continue locked ones, if you haven't noticed.)


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: alaric on February 24, 2004, 01:24:59 am
Bucc, a ban would stop them from posting additional flames. Just make it policy to ban anyone who continues a flame from a locked thread. Doesn't have to be a long ban, but a more liberal banning policy with a preserved history is much more desireable to me than a place that edits it's own history.

Somebody goes to far: Slap them with a ban.

Somebody opens a flame topic: Slap them with a ban.

Somebody won't let an already resolved issue rest: Slap them with a ban.

Somebody's being a dick: Slap them with a ban.

But most importantly, leave the evidence of what they've done available so others can learn from their mistakes. Not only does deleting the evidence take away the ability to point and say "Here, this is what got them banned." but it reduces the authority and respectability of the admins who are then seen as banning without evidence or without reason.

A private section does no good in a situation like this, it only opens the door for people to cry foul. A good example of this is rapid. Now, obviously, everyone who's been around here a while knows the situation with rapid. However, he's still around, and I can't help but think that he'd be gone if there was a large  body of evidence showing the history of what's happened here.

Covering up the misdeed of anyone, for any reason, is wrong. Unless there is a way for people to see and be reminded of the past, it might as well have never happened. I seriously doubt anyone here would argue in favor of removing hitler from the history books because it could fan the flames of neo-anti-semitism.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Typhy on February 24, 2004, 01:56:11 am
 Alaric,

Personally, I can't fault anyone for wanting to respond to a flame post directed at them. If a moderator moves that post to an area where it can be viewed, but not replied to, then it only inspires the person who was provolked to carry flames into another thread.

Example:

Posted by Alaric: "Fuck off, you stupid fucking dipshit. I didn't camp in a fucking window at Peaks for the entire third match of our CB. You're just disapoitned because you and your stupid ass clan lost the CB. Go to hell."

Moderator moves the post to an area where I can view it but not reply to it. After reading this post, I'd be pretty pissed off at Alaric, and wanting to get in a response. Am I really at fault for making my response in the soonest avalible thread that Alaric is debating in?

I see a real-forum example of this in Rapid's post ( which is now stored out of your eyes, and for good reason ), I myself would've responded to it, seeing as it was directed at my clan. Snipe would've responded to it because it was directed at him, and the other 4 dozen people would've responded to it, telling Rapid what a dumbass he is.

Anyone who saw that post, but wasn't able to reply would be justified in wanting to start a thread bitching at Rapid for it.  


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: alaric on February 24, 2004, 02:11:05 am
Anyone who saw that post, but wasn't able to reply would be justified in wanting to start a thread bitching at Rapid for it.  

No, they wouldn't. Because the situation would have been resolved already. And what should have happened in the case your talking about is rapid should have been banned and anybody responding to rapid should have been banned. It's that simple. That way, everybody knows what rapid did to deserve that ban.

And in response to your first example, yes, you are at fault for making your response in the soonest availble thread and you should recieve a ban/warning for your childish actions (theoretically speaking here).

The only way to hold people accountable for their actions is to make their actions permanant and public.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Mr. Lothario on February 24, 2004, 07:34:17 am
     I gotta go with Alaric on this one. However, to implement it would first require two changes: first, a codified set of rules covering what a flame is, as well as what offenses are ban-worthy and definitions of those offenses. Second, moderators who are authorized to ban, and who are punished if they perform a spurious ban. The public records of the offense would make the legitimacy of a ban easy to verify. Additionally, it may be wise to institute a rule that if a moderator has participated in a thread, they may not act as moderator in that thread.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on February 25, 2004, 06:03:14 am
And since moderators don't have the ability to ban, only the admin, there goes that idea.  

Also, it would require that all members were registered, something Mauti said he didn't want to do for lots of reasons when it was brought up before.

Additionally, it may be wise to institute a rule that if a moderator has participated in a thread, they may not act as moderator in that thread.

That's one guideline that already exists, even if it wasn't always followed.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Mr. Lothario on February 26, 2004, 01:07:09 am
     Is the inability of mods to ban an inherent limitation in YaBB? That seems unlikely to me.

     I agree that guest access is a good thing overall, so in place of bans, aggressive deletion of guest offenses would work.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: c| Splinter on February 26, 2004, 03:51:38 am
Only Admins of the forums (aka Mauti) have the ability to ban other players.  Moderators can only edit and delete threads.  It's how YaBB is setup.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Mr. Lothario on February 26, 2004, 02:04:47 pm
     I see. That's a shame. I guess Rapid stays.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: cO.gabe on February 26, 2004, 08:11:00 pm
Banning people for flames might work....but if you think about it, scotty kevill bans people (golo, snipey, etc.) for impersonation, pr0n, and a variety of other things, but that doesn't stop them from coming right back and doing it again.  In fact, I think it may actually motivate certain individuals to do it.  Its the "Hey i bet i can get a longer ban than u" game.

On the other hand, mb ittl be different on the forums, considering evill doesn't run them.

 ;)


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: iroc38927 on March 02, 2004, 06:50:43 pm
By all means this is not a flame, but I do believe I should say few things about rapid.
1) He talks alot of trash.
2) He cheated in the BL before.
3) He claims he's someone he's not.



Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: somebody on March 12, 2004, 09:44:11 pm
Bucc, a ban would stop them from posting additional flames. Just make it policy to ban anyone who continues a flame from a locked thread. Doesn't have to be a long ban, but a more liberal banning policy with a preserved history is much more desireable to me than a place that edits it's own history.

Somebody goes to far: Slap them with a ban.

Somebody opens a flame topic: Slap them with a ban.

Somebody won't let an already resolved issue rest: Slap them with a ban.

Somebody's being a dick: Slap them with a ban.

But most importantly, leave the evidence of what they've done available so others can learn from their mistakes. Not only does deleting the evidence take away the ability to point and say "Here, this is what got them banned." but it reduces the authority and respectability of the admins who are then seen as banning without evidence or without reason.

A private section does no good in a situation like this, it only opens the door for people to cry foul. A good example of this is rapid. Now, obviously, everyone who's been around here a while knows the situation with rapid. However, he's still around, and I can't help but think that he'd be gone if there was a large  body of evidence showing the history of what's happened here.

Covering up the misdeed of anyone, for any reason, is wrong. Unless there is a way for people to see and be reminded of the past, it might as well have never happened. I seriously doubt anyone here would argue in favor of removing hitler from the history books because it could fan the flames of neo-anti-semitism.

1. most people uses games for stressrelief
2. if somebody here follows your "2cents", the forum will be dead
3. if you dont like hot talks you shold go in a tetris forum or a "mother&son" forum
4. if you dont like hot talks dont play first person shooters and leave the web and shot yourself  ;D

my "50 cents" for *lmfao*


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: alaric on March 13, 2004, 12:42:27 am
wow, you're dumb.

I'd like to take this time to suggest another rule or requirement of this forum. A basic english/idea comprehension level must be achieved before any potential user is allowed to post here.

Obviously, this coward doesn't understand a word I have said here. And rather than waste my time refuting his unsigned comments only to have my points fall on deaf (and dumb) ears I'm going to play some guitar.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Supernatural Pie on March 16, 2004, 05:25:38 am
wow, you're dumb.
A basic english/idea comprehension level must be achieved before any potential user is allowed to post here.


What an amazing idea!!! No sarcasm!!

There could be a timed, online IQ test that must be passed in order for your account to be processed!

That would eliminate 50% of the retards/assholes!

(Oh... but not biases against other languages... Except French ;) )


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on April 02, 2004, 01:04:06 am
Somebody's being a dick: Slap them with a ban.

Oh damn, you guys would have to ban me for every post I make.  I just can't help it.  I'm not conceited, I'm just better than all of you :)

But on to other news.....I can't believe I'm actually going to say this....but I agree with Alaric on this topic completely.  Very good ideal.

Make it so.

-GhostSniper Out.


Title: why always trying to tarnish my name?
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 18, 2004, 10:33:56 am
A good example of this is rapid. Now, obviously, everyone who's been around here a while knows the situation with rapid. However, he's still around, and I can't help but think that he'd be gone if there was a large  body of evidence showing the history of what's happened here.

Covering up the misdeed of anyone, for any reason, is wrong. Unless there is a way for people to see and be reminded of the past, it might as well have never happened. I seriously doubt anyone here would argue in favor of removing hitler from the history books because it could fan the flames of neo-anti-semitism.

Wow alaric.  You have some valid points in some places, but your distorted vision of me still blurs right from wrong.   Especially, since a lot of this "history", is simply manipulated "history" made by these "forum moderators" that delete all the good responses that makes them look bad,  to move the crowd to think like them and think badly of for example, myself.  I have had many, many, many good posts deleted by these "moderators". Especially when I was responding to them, or one of their friends.  You can totally count on your post to be deleted if you made them look dumb "in their forum"(so they think)  That's when I started the whole "Inner Forum Circle" theory, where I mentioned how they protected each other, and helped attacked whoever they came together to disagree with.  

I've never had a problem properly presenting my problems about me or my clan.  It was the flaming, and the allowing of it, was what got me.  And when I finally said fuck it, and fought fire with fire by putting them in their place using their lingo so they could understand, I was viewed as the "bad guy".  What changed my views about these forums, was the poor moderating and abuse of power a lot of these people had.  I've only seen one of those people get properly dealt with, and it was Nixon, when he deleted our clan from the BL for his own personal reasons, that no other moderator agreed with.  He was properly booted and disciplined.  But it was also done on the "hush hush" for some reason.  

The fact all this type of moderating has been going on for as long as I can look back, is a main reason I chose to delete my account from these mickey mouse forums ran by no life geeks that want to make themselves look "l337".  As soon as they're put in their place, they're quick to come here and "cover it up" by deleting posts.  

Hell alaric, if my posts would've never been deleted, *sigh*, I bet a lot of you would be a fan of mine, rather than a stereotyping "hater".

That's the "forums" for ya...   Ran by a couple people that want things viewed their way...   No freedom behind that...

(you can expect some "anti-rapid" flamers flaming crap up here)

Oh yeah, and btw Snipe, you're always so hard up trying to make me look bad misinforming the public with little bs like that quote.  How does this SS look in response to that silly signature with some bs quote that means absolutely nothing, (since you've never beaten me in a CB)
Check out this SS buddy
SNiPE vs Rapid in CB (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/arts/screenshots/AcEcb1.jpg)
Now that's something to be proud of.  Not some silly quote that means shit,   you dumb n00b...  (yeah, little things like that flaming signature asking for a non friendly response, which are tolerated around here, is what shouldn't be)


Title: wtf is this guy's problem?
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 18, 2004, 10:45:26 am
By all means this is not a flame, but I do believe I should say few things about rapid.
1) He talks alot of trash.

I don't start it, I end it.  You don't see me talking, unless I have to respond to some bs(like this bs you just posted...  misinformed fool probably mistaking me for that n00b rabid)

2) He cheated in the BL before.

Now here's a comment full of shit.  I've never cheated in the BL, or anything for that matter.  I revolve around honor, and carry myself with it.  In fact, the one kid that did cheat and was in my clan, Typhy, was booted for cheating.  

Get your fucking facts straight before you come in here posting, dumbass (sorry, this fucker got me mad)

3) He claims he's someone he's not.

Who the fuck am I claiming to be?  I'm Rapid, leader of the |?K| clan, been in 1 clan, since October 2001.  I've been the lead representative of |?K| clan in these forums, and have been involved in lots of arguements, in which I've always been able to hold my ground np with plain honesty and logic.  

Where the fuck do you get off with these stupid ass claims on me?  Hell, I don't even know, or heard of your ass...   Dumb stereotyping mother fucker...

*sigh*

see what all this manipulative "deleting of posts" have caused?  Certainly has misinformed the public greatly...


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Brain on April 18, 2004, 08:03:13 pm
actually you booted typhy for doing an unsactiond cb if i remember correctly. i'm sure i could find the post where you tell us why if i looked hard enough but i really don't feel like it


Title: Yes Brain, I booted him for that too
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 18, 2004, 10:37:39 pm
Actually Brain, the time I booted him for that unsanctioned(notice I spelled it right ;) ) CB, was like the 3rd time I booted him, which ended up being permanently.  He has been booted many times from our clan, but I felt it was only right to give him another chance, since he did come up with thinking up AK(which stood for Alaska, lol.  When he turned over leadership to me, I made it |?K| - |?ggressive Killers|)  The time I booted him for cheating, was disciplinary, and since it was vs |CF|, a clan that was thought to be ?SWAT? undercover(if they would've won, they would've "revealed their true identity", but since they lost, they maintained their secrecy...), so I was lenient on that whole ordeal.  If you have any other questions about any other situation/s, I'd be happy to talk it out with you. Thanks for paying attention.  Much appreciated. ;) -|?K|*Rapid*





www.AKclan.IsViolent.com (http://www.AKclan.IsViolent.com)
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Title: To clear the air
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 18, 2004, 11:09:00 pm
btw, the "cheating" was Typhy telling the |CF|'s about a rule that didn't exist.  In other words, trying to take advantage of their ignorance.  Too bad these guys knew the rules inside out since they were thought to be ?SWAT? aliasing with a clan(Supposedly tricking Typhy into CB'ing this "n00b" clan.  lol, tricked him good)


The only thing I can give Typhy credit for, was bringing me and Monk together into a team.  Evidently, a succesful combo that has helped bring |?K| to be the active clan of |?ggressive Killers| it is today. 8)  We're the foundation, and our dedication and honor has helped build up a clan with excellent teamwork and good competitive edge.  All our present active members:

?  *AngryD?d*(Been an extremely loyal and excellent player ever since he joined.  Still going at it 200%)
?  ?MPE?(This guy's been on fire since his ?SWAT? days)
?  *K I L Z O*(Yeah, he came back claiming he's gonna start playing again.  But he doesnt have a comp yet. lol.  Very hardcore player with plenty of skills that he's gotten to show off over time)
? *Albatross*(quiet and skilled, and also very inactive, but definately a good player)
?  *autriche*(He won the 1v1 RS tournament, and came in 2nd in the R6 tourney.  Need I say more?)
?  *Spyder*(A new addition, but an old player.)
?  and last but not least *Ender Wiggin*(not the RS n00b ender)(This guy leaves people saying "wow" in RvS.  An addition soon not to be forgotten).  

This whole team, consisting of these chosen ones, is what makes up our team.  And frankly, I'm rather proud and blessed that each and every single one of them being my teamate.  Next time you think of the |?K|'s, think of this post and this team.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 26, 2004, 07:47:08 am
Pardon me while I throw some "haiku" up in this mo'fo!

"Rapid, Rapid, Hmm...
He's a paranoid fucker...
He'll never get it."

TY TY!!  I'll be here all week!!

.::|N| Noto

I love how every conversation, in which rapid is a part of, suddenly churns out strange ass accusations and some of the worst conspiracy theories I have ever heard to this date.  And of all the people to be the "Chief of the Spelling Police", my vote definitely doesn't go in that direction... Also, reverting to arguing about shit from 2-3 years is simply lame.  "Everyone's trying to destroy me!"  Cheer up buckeroo (Rapid), everything's going to be A-Okay!


Title: Why use all that Negative Energy Noto?
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 26, 2004, 10:30:34 pm
Noto Noto Noto...   Is this your attempt at flaming my way?

Why in the hell, would you take time and energy to post all this nonsense about me, that doesn't even concern you.  Here I am speaking with a couple trouble makers that have uselessly wasted energy trying to tarnish me, and you feel as if it's your duty to point out you have some of this useless energy as well...

Come on now, you think you're mature, yet act like the imature kid you trully are...  Save those dumb comments, they're definately not needed here.  In a conversation where I'm presenting myself with honor and respect, here you come out in the need to disrespect...  

You feel as if it's your duty to point out what you know?  Don't forget, you've read the manipulated part of these stories, in which these moderators took time out to use their powers, to delete my responses in which I made them look dumb with simple logic and facts, with the sole purpose to give the audience a twisted image of myself.  Hell,  you're still one to think I'm some kind of problem, meaning it has worked on you.  Especially when you've failed to see that I'm merely pointing out the abuse that was done by these imature "moderators" that simply fought their arguements, by deleting the responses that proved them wrong.  That's the issue here, but you've once again came in with a fogged up mind, attempting at personal attacks, as if you have reason for them.   Like I told you before, save them.  Maybe get a Psychologist to hear you out, since then you'll have some sense of respect and unstubborness to listen and maybe be a little more open minded at what's said to you

Your personal attacks at me, are definately not welcomed by me in anyway, and it reflects on the imaturity you carry yourself with.  Hope you grow up anytime soon...  

*sigh*

   ::) -|?K|*Rapid*


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 26, 2004, 10:52:20 pm
You never come within grasp of what you are trying to obtain, Rapid.  You will most likely die of some heart ailment before you hit a ripe old age.  I have a few suggestions.  Get a girlfriend, or wife, and then have some kids.  Then, spend the rest of your days doing the things you enjoy (aside from this horse crap).  You really need to get out more.  Do you drink at all?  Drugs?  Maybe you should start.  The anger that resides in you in something of a clinical nature that really should be dealt with as soon as possible.  I really hope you realize and understand this.  By the way, you cheat in video games.  ;)

.::|N| Noto


Title: *points and laughs
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 26, 2004, 10:55:21 pm
Heh, let your imature response speak for itself. ;)


Title: Re:*points and laughs
Post by: Noto on April 26, 2004, 11:04:26 pm
Everyone tells me |?K| cheats.  I should believe them.  Oh, and also, JFK was assassinated by aliens... At least taht's what I was told (on these very same forums).  Rapid, get a wife and some kids, and then go on a family vacation of some sort.  You spend way too much time here.  It's kind of sad.  Speaking of which, I need to pick up my loving girlfriend and take her to dinner, and then latin dancing over at the club district.  I wouldn't want to hang around here all day like you... you little cheater...


.::|N| Noto

P.S.  |?K| cheats like a U.S. president.  ;D

I forgot to add this... Make sure you get the last word in, Rapid.  I wouldn't want this thread to die out.


Title: Re:*points and laughs
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on April 26, 2004, 11:46:23 pm
Oh, and also, JFK was assassinated by aliens... At least taht's what I was told (on these very same forums).

Actually, JFK's assassination was definitely a conspiracy.  There is no possible way that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, or even that he would have been able to deliver even one shot on target from the book depository.  I have been there and have tried to duplicate those shots....impossible.  It was, in my expert opinion, an assassin dressed as a police officer, hiding behind a fence, at the top of the grassy knoll that delivered the fatal shot to President Kennedy.

-GhostSniper, the expert in assassination, Out.



Title: Noto, how fucking retarded can you be?
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 27, 2004, 04:09:06 am
Rapid, get a wife and some kids, and then go on a family vacation of some sort.  You spend way too much time here.  It's kind of sad.  

Ok, you're a stupid mother fucker, and you know it.  Where do you get off talking as if you're some sort of certified counselor, that needs to voice his opinion here.  Hell, the hypocricy behing your post says it all.  If anything, you're the one spending too much time here, posting nonsense in a very disrespectful manner in a thread that does not concern you in any way, meaning you had to go out of your way to even come posting here.  You're going out of your way to try and flame and act like a forum idiot.  Who the fuck do you think you are anyways?  You think you can have fun your way, talking shit, and not get your card pulled?    Pfffft, you got a lot to learn, dumb mother fucker.  

I see you want to keep poking at me, until you get a reaction, so here it was.  Enjoy it, and soak it all in.  And when you're ready to respond, just remember that I'm here waiting to respond to your imature nonsense.
 

(sry bout this post, but this mother fucker just wanted to talk shit, and get shit talked back.  He got what he wanted, while being allowed to do it by the Mods here.  Hope nobody sees me as the bad guy once again, simply because I had to deal with this imature asshole posting bullshit in a thread that has nothing to do with his stupid ass in any way.  Again, sry to those of you that might be offended by my tone in this post.  Just know it's all directed towards dumbass, Noto)


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: |?K|*autriche* on April 27, 2004, 04:24:20 am
alright, noto go fuck yourself with the ak cheats bullshit. im not even going to bother speaking for the others, if they happened to read your post theyd have plenty to say themselves. but if you call ak a cheat youre callin me a cheat and if you do that youre digging your own grave. seriously, fuck off. i win because im better. anybody that claims they know somebody among us is a cheat is almost definitely talking about one particular ex-member. other than that, they dont know what the hell theyre talking about. and if you insist on your statements' validity... yada yada yada, stfu


Title: Re:*points and laughs
Post by: alaric on April 27, 2004, 04:40:16 am
Oh, and also, JFK was assassinated by aliens... At least taht's what I was told (on these very same forums).

Actually, JFK's assassination was definitely a conspiracy.  There is no possible way that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, or even that he would have been able to deliver even one shot on target from the book depository.  I have been there and have tried to duplicate those shots....impossible.  It was, in my expert opinion, an assassin dressed as a police officer, hiding behind a fence, at the top of the grassy knoll that delivered the fatal shot to President Kennedy.

-GhostSniper, the expert in assassination, Out.



*** makes valiant effort to save this thread from becoming the pile of dung it already is

GS, are you familar with the 'storm drain' theory for the JFK assassination? And, what do you believe are the implications of it being a conspiracy? Who do you think is responsible for it?


Title: Re:*points and laughs
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on April 27, 2004, 06:15:50 am
GS, are you familar with the 'storm drain' theory for the JFK assassination? And, what do you believe are the implications of it being a conspiracy? Who do you think is responsible for it?

No, havn't heard the term "storm drain" used before.  I think that the conspiracy was cooked up by the mafia.  Although a lot of people believe that one of the following groups could also have had something to do with it:  CIA, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, Soviet Union, Teamsters Union, and the Cuban exiles because of the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

I think Bucc told me once that he thought Lyndon Johnson did it.  That would be a stretch for me, but Johnson certainly was an asshole who didn't like President Kennedy very much.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: alaric on April 27, 2004, 07:14:09 am
Well along the route the motorcade took (just beneath the grassy knoll) there was a large storm drain with a slot big enough to fire a rifle out of with a good view of the street. This storm drain connected to a larger system of tunnels that lead to the outskirts of Houson allowing for an easy getaway. It would also explain the "up and to the left" direction kennedy's head took after impact.

This was one of the major theories put forward by a History Channel special on the assassination a few years ago.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on April 27, 2004, 03:07:00 pm
Well along the route the motorcade took (just beneath the grassy knoll) there was a large storm drain with a slot big enough to fire a rifle out of with a good view of the street. This storm drain connected to a larger system of tunnels that lead to the outskirts of Houson allowing for an easy getaway. It would also explain the "up and to the left" direction kennedy's head took after impact.
This was one of the major theories put forward by a History Channel special on the assassination a few years ago.

Well, that does make more sense from the direction his head went in upon the bullet's impact.  I always thought that if anyone on the Warren Commission knew anything at all about bullet ballistics, they could NEVER have said that President Kennedy was shot from behind.  That just didn't make no sense at all!


Title: Re:Noto, how fucking retarded can you be?
Post by: Noto on April 28, 2004, 01:11:05 am
Rapid... you know |?K| cheats.  Come on man, everyone's talking about it.  And afterall, you said I listen to everyone else.  Well, i might as well... cheater.  I'm surprised you guys haven't been banned yet for cheating.  I bet if you rearrange the letters of the title of your favorite porn site, it would spell cheater.  You sick, sick, sick little man.

And for you ostrich, I'm calling you a cheating whore.  Is that okay?  Afterall, I do listen to what everyone tells me.  They said you're a black jew as well (aside from cheating like crack whore).  I'm confused though... how am I digging my own grave?  You suck, you cheat, and wear the gayest tag around.  What's not to like about you guys?  Oh that's right, the fat that you guys take this video game stuff waaaaaaay too seriously.  You need to get a life as well.  call up Rapid, on a real phone and then have a decent conversation about lettuce or something.  You guys need to unplug for a few months.  If you don't do it soon, irrepairable damage might ensue.

It's really quite sad... Does anyone else from the Alaska clan have anything to say?  Anyone?  I'm sure we can dig up a few rusty old bucket with tags.  Hell, in fact... I'll throw a tag on all week.  For shits and giggles of course.  w00t!!!  I LOVE ALASKA!

*hugs* & *kisses*

.::|N| Noto


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on April 28, 2004, 01:18:46 am
Hey Noto, stop changing the subject....

Isn't this the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread???


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 28, 2004, 04:35:31 am
Hey Noto, stop changing the subject....

Isn't this the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread???

Right-i-o GS... Sorry about that...

So, as we all know, JFK was Castro's 2nd cousin twice removed from a polish grandmother.  It was THAT grandmother who gave him his first spanking, and it was to the tune of "The Entertainer".  This of course completely demoralized the young JFK.  He went into military service for WWII, but found himself beating others when hmming that age old rag time.  So sad... so sad...

.::|N| Noto



Title: Is that all you've got? LOL @ Noto
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 28, 2004, 05:21:31 am
Heh, see, it's funny watching you act like a dumbfuck.  Nj on that weak ass attempt at a comeback reply ".::|N|Noto".   Thanks for proving my point.  I need say less.

:o


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: |?K|*autriche* on April 28, 2004, 05:31:37 am
ok noto youre really demonstrating a general lack of awareness with your extensive post there, you dont know me and if youre listening to what "everybody is saying", how about you listen to me and go jump off a bridge. how long did you spend on that post anyway?


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 28, 2004, 06:39:18 am
ok noto youre really demonstrating a general lack of awareness with your extensive post there, you dont know me and if youre listening to what "everybody is saying", how about you listen to me and go jump off a bridge. how long did you spend on that post anyway?

First off, I'd like to say I'm impressed you guys come back here everyday looking for my posts!  THANKS!  ;)  I knew you guys loved me, but this demonstration is simply wonderful!

Secondly, I was only listening to Rapid.  He told me I was listening to everyone, which was before I ever said anything about Alaska.  Furthermore, if you guys are going to be so fucking anal, you really do need a vacation.  <throws chair>YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!!</throws chair>.  lol  wow... lol

Grow up kids... and if you dare give me that bull shit that that you're older and you don't need to grow up, then take a looooooong look a mirror and see for yourself the pitiful mess you've become due to video games and their forums.

.::|N| Noto

Don't be a bunch of noobs.  (UH OH... I SAID NOOBS!!! THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID!!!)  <--- keep the thread going please.   ;)


Title: Re:Is that all you've got? LOL @ Noto
Post by: Noto on April 28, 2004, 06:41:37 am
.::|N|Noto

Dude... there's a space between the tag and the name... Christ, get it right... Noob.

<sarcasm>You have very nice grammar by the way.</sarcasm>

.::|N| Noto


Title: Noto, thx 4 making an ass outa yourself
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 28, 2004, 06:46:08 am
Call others "noob", and act like one yourself.  Nice display of hypocrisy Noto.  Now go fuck yourself and save the wannabe witty comeback.  Just isn't working...  :P


Title: Mauti, you must love the way Noto carries himself
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on April 28, 2004, 06:57:24 am
Mauti, the more and more I look at the stupid ass posts made by your "moderator" Noto, still makes me wonder what you saw in him...

I think you might not have known he was this imature and childish?  

Whatever it is, pls stop the clown act out of this overgrown asshole.  It's merely stirring up trouble around here and causing reactions what would not have been, had his nonsense been properly moderated.  

And don't act as if he had right to act like an ass...



Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 28, 2004, 05:20:09 pm
I'm not a moderator Rapid.  Nice observation though... noob.

.::|N| Noto

Added:  Why not stop posting here? It's not like you have an account, or want one.  No one likes you Rapid... plus, you cheat.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: cO.gabe on April 28, 2004, 08:43:28 pm
As much as I can't stand Rapid....

Noto, I think you need to learn how to argue.  Nothing you have said in this thread has been very logical, not to mention backed up with evidence.  Everything you say is riddled with fallacies and insults, and it doesn't really explain why Rapid is wrong and why you are right.  To be truthful, Rapid is acting much more mature than you are.  Grow up.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Ace on April 28, 2004, 08:44:25 pm
Noto and Co. - how about you guys quit feeding the trolls?


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on April 28, 2004, 09:36:28 pm
I'm just so happy that people like Flies, Aramarth, voodoo, BFG, and Civic have no authority in this area to moderate, lock threads just because they feel like it, and edit people's posts.

Oh the freedom!


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: cO.gabe on April 29, 2004, 07:27:21 am
Noto and Co. - how about you guys quit feeding the trolls?

How bout you quit feeding my cock?... But seriously, am I not allowed to contribute to a debate on these forums?  Or am I just not allowed to defend Rapid?


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 29, 2004, 07:57:27 am
Noto and Co. - how about you guys quit feeding the trolls?

And company?  Fuck that... I'm a lone wolf in this forum.  w00t ;)

They're kind of like treasure trolls... cute... fuzzy... nearly worthless... okay okay, completely worthless...

How bout you quit feeding my cock?... But seriously, am I not allowed to contribute to a debate on these forums?  Or am I just not allowed to defend Rapid?

If I ever saw a cock eat anything, I would put down the crack pipe, point, laugh, cry, and then pick up the pipe again.

By the way, you are not allowed to defend Rapid.  Not only is he older than almost everyone here, but he cheats too...

.::|N| Noto

So does anyone actually have Oregon Trail anymore?


Title: Fire Noto.
Post by: Blitz on April 29, 2004, 08:39:43 am
I say, fire Noto. He brings in off topic posts about AK and random shit. He doesn't contribute to anything that this one forum is about. He goes out of his way, and probably spends more time here on the forums than fucking Rapid and AK do. I have talked with Rapid extensively recently about sound conversion and other things, and he has more brains in his dick than you (Noto) do.  I mean, why don't you stop while you are BEHIND, because you are.

Blitz 8)

PS: Why can't we all be friends? Go listen to War - Why can't be friends?

PSS: I just realized, Gabe owned you Noto in 2 posts!


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: cO.gabe on April 29, 2004, 08:53:41 am
I still have Oregon Trail...it's too old skool for my G5 tho  >:(


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 29, 2004, 09:00:51 pm
I still have Oregon Trail...it's too old skool for my G5 tho  >:(

Will it run in Classic?


Title: Re:Fire Noto.
Post by: Noto on April 29, 2004, 09:11:33 pm
I say, fire Noto. He brings in off topic posts about AK and random shit. He doesn't contribute to anything that this one forum is about. He goes out of his way, and probably spends more time here on the forums than fucking Rapid and AK do. I have talked with Rapid extensively recently about sound conversion and other things, and he has more brains in his dick than you (Noto) do.  I mean, why don't you stop while you are BEHIND, because you are.

Wow... Blitz, don't be a noob.  First off, fire me from what?  I haven't been an Admin or Moderator since Season 6, which is when I passed the buck to Aramarth due to my schedule.  Secondly, your 16 yr old ramblings mean nothing to me, and the notion I spend time on the forums more than Rapid and Alaska is simply repulsive.  I think you if took all of the complete GG Spam threads, AK would average out on top, and mostly due to Rapid.  Don't lecture me about crap like that.  And the notion Rapid has brains in his dick is most likely correct since he has none in his head.  I appreciate the high school lecture you ripped off from your guidance counselor.  Lovely...

I have talked with Rapid extensively recently about sound conversion and other things...

There are many people chuckling right now at that statement... I even found myself giggling a tad.

.::|N| Noto

Blitz... get off the Internet, get back to your homework.  What have you brought to the forums lately? Hmm... not much from what I see... Oh yeah, Gaybe doesn't own anything... he's still in high school with you.  I doubt you even own the computer you're on. ;)


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Blitz on April 29, 2004, 10:52:54 pm
HAHAHAHA! I agree with Rapid about how you own yourself. You are pissy about not winning this "war."  Besides, you really to define what a "n00b" is on the forums. Is it, I don't have as many posts as you? Or is it because I don't provide bullshit? Maybe if you pull your head out, from your ass, and open your mind.  Maybe if you don't get so defensive about stupid shit like this. Maybe if you EVER have a conversation with Rapid, you might be a better person. Oh, another thing, why you bringing in counselors in on this? See, you brought in bullshit.  Stop trying to be cool and try and own me. I am going to go off topic now to give you my High School Carrier detail. I go to fucking Columbine High School.  I see shit like this, what you are giving, going on every damn day. You are just like a pathetic freshman who can't get any.

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First off, fire me from what?? I haven't been an Admin or Moderator since Season 6, which is when I passed the buck to Aramarth due to my schedule.

Hmm... What schedule? Seems like you have more time than I do to be able to write a post like that. Maybe if you quit the bullshit you are presenting might acutally be liked by others.

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I appreciate the high school lecture you ripped off from your guidance counselor.? Lovely...

Hahahaha! Man, you really need to pull your head out of your ass.

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Secondly, your 16 yr old ramblings mean nothing to me, and the notion I spend time on the forums more than Rapid and Alaska is simply repulsive.? I think you if took all of the complete GG Spam threads, AK would average out on top, and mostly due to Rapid.? Don't lecture me about crap like that.

Now here is what I want to know.  You some kind of EmoKid that needs to speak out about how he is hated or hates someone?  Here is some made-up HTML 4.0 code you need to use whenever you get on the forums again <emo class="css/below Rapid" style="None"  target="Myself">YOU ALL SUCK!</emo>. Now since you ain't that smart, I am going to translate to you what this will present: I suck so much!.  Now, you should add that to the beginning of every post you make.

Finally, I hope you like have the "quote" thing happen to you. Now shut up, and bring on the JFK conspiracies!

Blitz 8)

PS Noto, do us a favor and stay on topic.


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: crypt on April 29, 2004, 11:11:19 pm
Bah w/ this, who started this anyway?

and how the hell did it turn from suggestion:moderation procedure into an all out flamewar?


Title: Re:Fire Noto.
Post by: cO.gabe on April 30, 2004, 12:33:44 am
.::|N| Noto
If you take out the "t" in "Noto" it spells "Noo"...hehe

Gaybe doesn't own anything... he's still in high school with you.  I doubt you even own the computer you're on. ;)

I actually do own my own computer...bought it myself :)



Title: Re:Fire Noto.
Post by: Noto on April 30, 2004, 01:17:24 am
I actually do own my own computer...bought it myself :)

Good man... now figure out a way to get OT on there...

.::|N| Noto


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 30, 2004, 01:19:49 am
Finally, I hope you like have the "quote" thing happen to you. Now shut up, and bring on the JFK conspiracies

I'm assuming you meant having?  The quote things happens to me all the time, ask Bucc!

Noob list growing...

Blitz
Rapid
Gaybe (Season 5 only)

.::|N| Noto

Now... if we could only find Bondo...


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on April 30, 2004, 04:23:16 am
The quote things happens to me all the time, ask Bucc!

You n00b Noto, I don't know what you are talking about, I never do the "quote things" to anyone :D

Now... if we could only find Bondo...

That's not even funny!


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Blitz on April 30, 2004, 05:30:22 am
Ahhh Noto. You are making an ass out of yourself. I laugh...  Anyways, have you guys heard about the Secret Service conspiracy? Where the SS agent got up on the car, and shot him? I like that one. There is even a conspiracy where JFK committed suicide!

Blitz 8)

I just realized, Noto, only 3 are on the list of "noobs"? I thought we just kicked your ass...


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Brain on April 30, 2004, 05:39:10 am
Finally, I hope you like have the "quote" thing happen to you. Now shut up, and bring on the JFK conspiracies

I'm assuming you meant having?  The quote things happens to me all the time, ask Bucc!

Noob list growing...

Blitz
Rapid
Gaybe (Season 5 only)

.::|N| Noto

Now... if we could only find Bondo...

you're missing a lot people on that noob list

romulus/peekay
romeo/juliet
this group (also rumored to be 1 person) predates rapid and puts him to shame

ejo (the original noob and bullet magnet)
typhy (he's still on probation for being in ak for that long)
you (for wishing bondo was back)


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Blitz on April 30, 2004, 08:13:45 am
I am still quite confused about what the definition of a "noob" is. I use it for GhR players. What do you think? Besides, I like the JFK conspiracies!

Blitz 8)

NOTO GOT OWNED!


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 30, 2004, 04:24:22 pm
You n00b Noto, I don't know what you are talking about, I never do the "quote things" to anyone :D

You horses ass... You don't quote things to anyone???  Suuuure Bucc... I vividly remember many threads where you and I have gone back in forth with quotes, and I've seen you do the same with others.  Are you okay?


you (for wishing bondo was back)

Whoa whoa whoa... I never wished him back... that's just plain weird.

.::|N| Noto

wEWt |MP| in the house... All is well now!  lol


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: Noto on April 30, 2004, 04:24:50 pm
NOTO GOT OWNED!

lol


Title: Re:Suggestion: Moderation Procedure
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on April 30, 2004, 10:32:03 pm
You n00b Noto, I don't know what you are talking about, I never do the "quote things" to anyone :D

You horses ass... You don't quote things to anyone???  Suuuure Bucc... I vividly remember many threads where you and I have gone back in forth with quotes, and I've seen you do the same with others.  Are you okay?

**Wonders if Noto is a n00b and needs the actual <sarcasm> tags around it and not just a smiley face at the end**


Title: Hey, it's the sideshow bob's in da house! WOOT
Post by: |?K|*Rapid* on May 03, 2004, 03:08:09 am
Finally, I hope you like have the "quote" thing happen to you. Now shut up, and bring on the JFK conspiracies

I'm assuming you meant having?  The quote things happens to me all the time, ask Bucc!

Noob list growing...

Blitz
Rapid
Gaybe (Season 5 only)

.::|N| Noto

Now... if we could only find Bondo...

you're missing a lot people on that noob list

romulus/peekay
romeo/juliet
this group (also rumored to be 1 person) predates rapid and puts him to shame

ejo (the original noob and bullet magnet)
typhy (he's still on probation for being in ak for that long)
you (for wishing bondo was back)

lol, you now have offended the great n00b, brain.  Poor guy used to lead this list with his old clan "TAF".  Oh, and I'm not making nothing up here like Noto's "noob" list, in which he simply lists the people that owned him. :o ;D   Brain's clan, TAF, really did suck the big one :(  Put it this way, Brain's clan TAF, was the only clan we've CB'ed, that we beat 10-0, in which we were not even HIT once by their fire the entire CB. :o   And that's just from our clan, imagine all the other clans that helped kill this clan out of existance.  l0l, talk about n00b eh ;)

Bucc, no need to wonder, I think Noto's posts speak for themselves.  lol, self-pwnage. ;D  

I'm with Ghostsniper in the fence theory in the assassination of JFK.  I'm still in question of who it might have been though...  Let's just say all the theories make sense in their own way.  Just need more evidence, that never was...  Unsolved mystery in my eyes...



***still wonders why Mauti hasn't put a stop to this.  (Probably laughing his ass off...)  

*sigh*