*DAMN R6 Forum

Since I am new and all, Ive noticed that assassin refers to ?K as the new CIA. Will someone please tell me who they are/were, what hapeened to them, and where they all are. I am very curious on this issue since I have no idea what I am being compared to.

Thanks, k!Lz

CIA was the clan run by Romulus (the old Rapid if you will).  There are plenty of threads about it if you dig into the back pages enough.

CIA was a RS clan that let in many people and was very big... most of those were newbies, but there were a few with talent (especially Black Sheep).  CIA got a very bad reputation, both because with all the newbies that came and went there was a lot of trash talking, and even more so because of their leader, Romulus.  Romulus took over the clan after the first leader left (CIA Commander).  (for those keeping score like Sin, I was long gone before Romulus ever got to CIA).  Now, Romulus would go through lots of phases of accusing people of things, throwing up smoke screen posts (get a real life, some of us have lifes, that sort of thing) to avoid the real issues... like that he was caught cheating in a CB (twice).  He was also kicked out as a moderator here for abusing his responsibilities (as well as being kicked out of the battle league for cheating).  

So, there are many things there to draw examples from.. I'll leave that to you.

BTW Vipe and Sin... shouldn't it really be the Peakay award?  I mean, while I respect the fact that he hasn't been a dumbass at all anymore (that I've seen, he's been completely normal).  But Peakay was the first proclaimed dumbass of the forums, so unless he objects, I think the award should be named after him.  Romulus just took it to a new level.

True that Peekay was a dumbass, but peekay didn't lead a clan like romulus and didn't quite irritate as many people as romulus. If you want to call it the Peekay award, be my guest.

As for Kilzo, CIA was a rotten clan much like how Grifter described. Much like AK, they thought they were kings of the world until like AK, they got put in their place by the established clans (well, AK hasn't realized this yet). Their leader, Romulus acted in much the same way as Rapidm except for the fact that Romulus could make a half-decent website (even though all themes were copied from another source...*DAMN html theft, PsYcO html theft, RS SWAT theme theft, etc.)

In short, get your act together or you will be labeled the new CIA by more people than just me....CIA is not a clan you want to be associated with.

CIA sounds really bad, even more notorious than us. I remember how much of an asshole romulus was. I was a 1 month old newbie when he kinda droped off the scene.  But I don't think Rapid cheated or has set up "smokescreen posts" That post about nothing that he did does not count. That is just funny as shit. lol candy wars!

Well Cossak, if you want any examples, the forum here is full of them.  Many of us were here for Rom's whole career on GR (before his permaban).

After ripping off all of Mauti's code, he kinda vanished.  I even heard his old site is gone.

As for cheating... nobody said that Rapid cheats.  That was something that Rom got caught doing.  Only true dumbasses accuse people of cheating without a tracker truck full of proof... well, in Rom's case... it was a convoy.  

As for smokescreens... Rapid is full of those.  He completely ignores other peoples points and just keeps repeating his, followed by base insults and attempted mocks (kinda like a spoiled child that got caught playing with matches and starts shouting that his older brother was looking at playboy... you know, try to distract from the real issue).  This can be seen in his attempted flams of me, and in his continued bringing up excuses and new challenges to cover up the fact that he just didn't keep his word at all.

As for CIA being more notorious then AK... that's only because they were around longer to annoy more.  Given Rapid's current pace, I'm sure AK will surpass the rep of CIA pretty quickly.  It's just too bad that one or two guys can ruin a whole clans reputation.

Yeah, those 1 or 2 guys being you and Nixon as far as I see it. (Assassin backed off after I proved him wrong when he called me a liar) ?Now we are well liked by many in GR and your attempt to get people to dislike us, goes to show how you are the one telling on your older bro about the Playboy Mag. ?We are here defending our ground and I have NOT lied once, so stick all those rumors about |?K| up your big ass cornholio! ?Now Cossak, don't give in to the rumors, for it will give you headaches like it has to me. ?Everytime I've proven them wrong, they delete my posts, so in these forums, you will never see the respect we deserve. ?While I have fought the fire with fire, I am now gonna use Water and put their flame out. ?We are very cool people, we've had impersonators of "Rapid" and "Typhy" and other of our members and those impersonators went around deliberately TKing others and talking shit as if it was us(Even in this Forum). ?So while this "Inner Forum Circle" will never change, being that is one-sided, we will still be |?ggressively Killing| in RS where action speak louder than words::)

uh, no. All your quote showed is that I said allies. You claim that I called KoS my specific allies.

BTW, if you see this before you do in the BL Forum, cropped/edited screenshots are inadmissable as proof.

blah blah blah.... ?K vs the rest

What I am concerned about is how the fuck did romulus cheat ??? I wasn't there when romulus was around, I was a n00b back then, or perhaps not even aware of Rogue Spear/Rainbow 6.
Neways, could come1 gimme some details on how he could possibly cheat? I mean, if I know how 2 do it, I perhaps also know how 2 prevent it... 8)

Well Godfather... I took a trip with Mr Peabody in the wayback machine (who besides Ace will get that reference?) and found this post for you.

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=GR&action=display&num=1000562565&start=0

Basically, looks like Rom didn't follow the rules in a CB, and had modded a gun.... scarry thing is he still lost the CB while cheating (LOL, that was a good laugh).

Hope this helps.

woohoo!   i was in ?CIA? at one point    =D
(hard to believe isn't it)

god was i ever a newb though, didn't even know what a jammer was.....lol

Why did Romulus get Perm Banned from GameRanger though?

I saw one of his posts yesterday that said:  "I still play with you guys in your games EVERY DAY ALL THE TIME"

Does that scare anyone besides me?   lol

i mean, i think we should let him back on GR, it would be funny, he's like a legend and it would be great to meet him...........errr.........again......


~gorfy

Gorf,
I was also in CIA for all about 2 weeks when I first started playing RS.  Lucky for me this was before Romulus.

As for Rom's threat that he's still here... that's what prompted me to ponder if Rapid was Romulus a few months ago.

As for bringing Romulus back, at least after his temper tantrums he'd come back and make a little sense for a while.  Also, Rom had the excuse of being a kid.  

TY grift, im still wondering wether the anti cheat mod actually worx. If so, plz some1, tell me. And also, plz all use it, so not a single clan can suspect another clan of cheating. Also, we should make a list about door cheating and stuff, being-in-a-box glitches and so on.
NOT TO USE IN CB's, but to avoid in CB's. ie, when I'm cbing some1, I can actually can think forward where the enemy can actually be without being seen. So, plz, lez all summarize the known bugs in RS/R6. And, for RSD, let's not worry on that item since all RSD proggies are FUBAR thx 2 Gunpower mods and stuff.

- [R] Godfather -

I don't directly get it, but I heard Dennis Miller use that referance before  ;)

It is from Aesop's fables.

Aesops Fables?  Never heard of 'em.

If you are thinking of Fractured Fairytails you'd be close.  Not quite there.... but close.

And yes, the master has remarked about Sherman & Mr Peabody a couple times.  Also Mighty Mouse and Underdog, two of my other favorites from the same era.

Sorry to disappoint GRIFT, but I didn't see too much of Rocky and Bullwinkle, so I probably don't remember them as vividly as you.

As for Rom, I know he spent a good amount of time on the forums after ripping off Mauti's html because of all the shit we gave him for it. The last I remember of him was his association/support for MaG, which kinda killed any possible interest I had in MaG.

hmm, ty for ur replies, but I'd like to have an answer  :)

Godfather,
You'd have to D/L the mod you are talking about, try to mod something in it... then try to play a game with the modded host and see if the others can still connect.  That was the idea behind the anti-cheat mod... that if the host were to change the files then nobody with the untouched version would be able to join.

But, you'd have to ask someone that's a modder.  I've never really played around in the guts of R6/RS.  Ack or Mauti would be good ones to ask if you ever see them.

ah, post not once, but twice, only then will thee recieve a reply..  ;D

so if i would spam, people would really notice the posts?, or better, i think a naked lady in a post would attract attention!

personally, i think all CB's should be played with no mods wahtsoever, anti-cheat or otyherwise. Simply having a mod in at all makes cheating that much easier, unless it does work like you say, in which case i'll have too see it to believe it.



you'd get my attention, but you'll probably get the moderators attention, too. and i don't think it would be good attention.

OMG, i remember CIA(i wasn't in it), where all the ex-DA's went...

Every time rom came into my game, he talked shit EVERY TIME!!  The funny thing was that half of CIA was better than him!!
If u want to see what rom was really like, the old old clan-fbi foru,ms can show u!   ;)

erm... ur missing a point there, if that mod which the host has activated in a game, then the others, all others have 2 have the mod too. And only then those ppl can actually play. Now when u have that mod, u probably know what it does, also, when u have that mod, u have the same cheating powers as the host has. That is the whole point. The problem is, when hosts host games in which they changed their data, which changes our data too, sort of, excet that we don;t know it, and won't notice, coz after the game there is no proof. Ingame, the host can have some abilities, such as better ammo, but I still don;t get why ppl fool into that, or the better gun, coz u have it too then! So, with the question wether u can cheat in RS I don;t mean the standard stuff, like modding guns, coz then we all would 'benefit' from that.

Besides, in a CB, correct me if I'm wrong, it's not tolerated 2 have mods turned on, except when it's agreed. And when u agree with having mods on, it's ur own fault when u lose coz of a cheat, coz u have 2 know ur mods better be4 CBing with 'em.

- [R] Godfather -

ok, lemme change that around a bit. It's just as easy to mod no matter what you do. What i remember hearing that the anti-cheat mod did was plug up some of  the holes (e.g. climbing into boxes, etc.)

hmmmmm... No, it's just an exact copy of ur kit, so every1 who wants 2 play needs that exact copy of the original kit. Now, when ppl mod around in the mod itsself, the versions aren't the same anymore, making your mod useless. By that, there is no way ppl can cheat, in these things. And I dunno wether ur box story is true, but I do know that this is a Kit Copy mod. Simple, but effective I think.

- [R] Godfather -

Godfather... you have the theory of the anti-cheat mod correct...  it's just all the default files so you know that everyone has the defaults.....

The question is, could the host computer still mod one of those files and the mod still load for everyone?  As far as I know, nobody has tried it yet to see if it really works.  To prove it, you need someone to go change say the number of rounds one gun will hold in the mod.... then host a game... see if the others can still join with the mod they have.  If they can, the anti-cheat mod doesn't do anything.  If they can't... then it works for the most commone cheats.

wow.....this whole story about rom is like a strange online legend. I've only been playing on GR for less then a year, how long has GR been going? This thread makes it seem a ancient and revered thing.....

Hehe, Grift, I got most of the information from u, I knew the most important aspects of the mod, but I didn;t know wether it really was a help in cheating. I guess u don't either  :(
Some1, let's test it, or some2 test it. I wanna know if this mod really does work, and if it does, perhaps make it a rule in official "DAMN CB's" hehe, Ulti/assasin u better read this  ;)

- [R] Godfather -

if you find out that it doesnt work, then you have opened the door for cheating for everyone
now, if you can do a client side mod that does the same thing then we might be in buisness...
But this is all future speculation. we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

GR started up January 1st 2000, I for one joined up in mid-March of 2000.

i dont know when i joined, but i have a member number in the 29,000's
from what i understand that almost makes me a GR vet

I am in support of serverside map mods. Such as Cobra and 101st Map Pack. Gotta admitt that duvalle shit is cool. But I am not in support of weapons mods. When you use those it is too easy, if not cheating itself. God knows what a nade a launcher that goes through walls could do.

server side maps can create unfair starting situations, however (some of the spear maps come to mind)

Yes, and the maps that come with the game don't create unfair starting spots *cough* Hacienda basement *cough*.

GameRanger was in public beta in july of 99, the non-beta version was released january 1, 2000...
i remember when i played Lode Runner 2 on GR back on the performa 6320. the original that came with the performa was also a great game :D

true, but that is why many ppl dont use that map in a cb