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Title: 2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 03:16:15 am
Yes, I have posted this before but no one really said anything so I didn't get much feed back. So this is how it goes boys and girls.

Lets say KoS is allies with FREAK. KoS wants to cb FiRE but FiRE will only accept 3v3's cause they are more points. KoS only has 2 people on so they take one of FREAK's players as an ally to play for them.

Whether they win or lose both clans would gain or lose points since they are allies and it is an allied win. They receive the same amount of points.

YES ALLIES CAN STILL CB EACH OTHER(unless decided otherwise)

Well Haztard has spoken. I loved having MUB's (Multi Unit Battles) with great friends from other clans.

P.S. I know this will take more scripting but I just wanted to run it by everyone.

Thanks,

Hazard


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Flame on January 05, 2003, 03:24:44 am
Good idea except since it is an allied win, I think that each clan should recieve the average of if each individual clan played.

For example, if 2 KoS members and 1 FREAK member played as allies against 3 FIREs, then KoS and FREAK would recieve the average of if the 2 KoSes won a 2v2 cb and the FREAK won a cb.

For example, if KoS would get 10 points for winning and FIRE would lose 3 if it KoS won a 2v2 cb, and FREAK would get 20 points and FIRE would lose 9 if FREAK won a 1v1 cb, both FREAK and KoS would recieve 15 points (the average of 20 and 10) and FIRE would lose 6 (the average of 3 and 9).

It is a tough concept, but it will be better once you understand it. It would be tough to script it too?


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 03:30:55 am
Well the point system could be modified for it I'm just proposing the general system of Allies, the point system is up for changing I guess, but if they get less points for doing allied cbing then why wouldn't they just cb by themselves?


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *TF6_Mr.Grape* on January 05, 2003, 03:33:49 am
I like the idea hazard...but flame you lost me when you started talking about #'s I would really appreciate it you could try to explain that again for stupid people like me.

Mr. Grape of TF6   :P :-[


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Psyks on January 05, 2003, 04:11:01 am
Haz it's a good idea but...What if Fire and agt were allies then agt lost a cb would fire lose points if there werent any fire in the cb?

No you duff duff.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 04:12:20 am
Not unless they were in the CB.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Mattster on January 05, 2003, 04:13:17 am
If they were in the cb they should lose points and if FiRE wasnt in the cb they shouldnt only agt should lose points. Great Idea Haz.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 05, 2003, 05:09:29 am
I would support this. Would make a good lil addon to the BL. I'll post more tommorow when im nto so sleepy


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Agent Wallabie on January 05, 2003, 05:19:10 am
  Sounds confusing, no douht. Does seem interesting though, kinda nice thing to spice things up. But it is another thing to worry or think about. I don't know either way, not my opion on this one.

  Wallie~


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: †FiRE Infection on January 05, 2003, 05:24:19 am
I think it would add a twist to RS Batles and keep rs up with popularity and people trying new things.  It would always be fun to play with your friends in cbs with other clans, something you can't do now.  How do the allied point system go in PC world Haz?


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 05:26:27 am
I don't even know, I just checked the old site.

Maybe you can find it

www.bqleagues.com

www.igsleagues.com

I really think you should email them or go to the forums or talk to one of your pc friends considering it's your idea and tell us about this. ;)


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: KoS Ultimo on January 05, 2003, 05:46:09 am
First of all, I dont think the system would work.

Second of all, if we actually tried the system I can already see what will happen. People will continuously ask kos players for aid in their cb's (not trying to sound cocky, but its what would happen) therefore, it would get annoying to hell.

Thirdly, if you want to add a twist to the battleleague to keep it alive... try bringing 3rd person back  ;D


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 05:50:28 am
Each clan only gets one ally. So you would only be allied with one clan.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: (SiX)Ben on January 05, 2003, 05:52:32 am
Why no enemy clans. Arch Rivals. Blah Blah Blah... Life everything should be cut in half. Deception, treachory would pwn. Sorry, I'm tired.. (see deception and treachory, like in a cb one guy tks a couple of his team...) Vs enemy clans you get double points... Everyone wouldnt be allies with everyone else then, because then you get better points vs enemies. I wanna hear clans talk shit on eachother!

Ben


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: KoS Ultimo on January 05, 2003, 06:03:59 am
Did I mention |?K| is about as good as the Payten Manning in playoff games ?


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: |MP|Cringe on January 05, 2003, 06:07:00 am
i like the idea, if it gets used, id like to see how the points are assigned and everything, maybe ill try to come up with somehting and run it by you all


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Jeb on January 05, 2003, 06:16:26 am
WHY


Why the hell do 2 clans need to pair up and do battle for points, if it was done that way there would be one superclan that would dominate all. What was so bad about the classic system of clan vs. clan.
I think a coop CB makes alot more sense than this proposition.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 06:19:22 am
Cause its cool and it totally heats up competition when the too allies are in First and Second place, then they break the alliance and play each other.

I had a damn good time with allies in PC land, so I suggested it. Thats why.

slut


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: KoS Ultimo on January 05, 2003, 06:22:54 am
Not everyhting from the pc land will work in the Land of the Mac. Hell look at what happened to 3rd person.....


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 06:23:52 am
Third person is so awesome. erm... Well some things can be converted... or at least I can try.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: ?KotA Serpico on January 05, 2003, 06:25:03 am
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Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Typhy on January 05, 2003, 08:44:56 am
Did I mention |?K| is about as good as the Payten Manning in playoff games ?

Eh? I was thinking more along the lines of: "|?K| is as good as Mike Vick was in Green Bay..."


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on January 05, 2003, 12:15:03 pm
Well Ultimo about 3rd person you were the only clan that wanted 3rd person on but I told you last season we can bring up a poll again.

About the Ally system well how many Allies are you supposed to have? I would say only one or at max 2 and about winning I don't think everyone should get a full win. You would have to share the win (2 KoS 1 AK) 2/3 win points for KoS and 1/3 for AK but if you lose maybe both should lose 10% or also 6.6% and 3.3%.

However an allied system would make the strong clans even stronger and the weak clans wouldn't find an allied that easy.

An allied system sounds interesting but in my opinion it would create also lots of troubles and disadvantages for weak/noob clans.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Jeb on January 05, 2003, 12:21:51 pm
As far as this super team bullshit goes, as long as its not a requirement i supose i'd be ok with it. I still think its a bad idea.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: †FiRE Infection on January 05, 2003, 06:23:51 pm
Yeah Mauti that sounds good with taking/adding points, they don't get full wins.  And I think the noob/weak clans are already at a disadvantage ;).  I suppose some clans can get strong, but you do only have 1 ally, it's not like you're taking the 5 best clans and putting them together.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 06:46:10 pm
Yea, I forget how they exactly run it, I even checked the old league sites but found nothing, I just thought it would be cool and I had to try and 3rd person isn't that bad, I had to play with it in regular RS  for a while.


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Agent Wallabie on January 05, 2003, 08:08:35 pm
   Is this a different BL or something just added on?


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: Flame on January 05, 2003, 08:41:28 pm
It's an idea to add on to the battle league/


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on January 05, 2003, 10:15:45 pm
Well however for this season it's a bit late. Your idea would delay the start approximatley a month until we have scripted everything.  But as I also said I think it would cause more troubles then it would add to the BL.

Mauti


Title: Re:2nd Request for an Allies system.
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on January 05, 2003, 11:03:06 pm
Yea, I figured that so forget it. It won't work cause I can't seem to find the point system for it or anything so it will just create problems.