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Title: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Typhy on July 25, 2005, 04:10:37 am
 When I first saw this thread today, my first thought was how I could fight it. Before even stopping to think, my mind has isolated the many weak points in the case, and I was getting ready to exploite them. But then I stopped, I had to think for a minute. Your word is who you are. I honestly could not, even if I were gaurenteed to be successful, stand up right now and I say I didn't do it.

So, here it is, plain and clear, the complete truth: Yes, I cheated. I started cheating in maybe Febuary? Something along those lines, of this year. I used a console activated no recoil back, coupled with a perfect reticule hack ( maybe 10% of the time ).

The most common thing I've heard said to me on GR since, is "Why? You were a great player already. Why would you need that?"

I get all of 5 FPS running a hack. Do you really think that makes me a better player? Ha! Not a chance.

"So if it's not about wanting to be better, then what is it?"

Well, truth is, it's about making a point.

I loved RVS. When the cheating issue first came up, I was the first one to speak out against it. Harvey and I were the two admins to devote the most time to dealing with the issue. We did our best, we used all our resources, and we failed. I came up with a way to deal with the problem myself. I'd cheat for a couple months, then say I'd done it, just to prove to everyone that it can be done, very easily. Only problem? I had a 1GHZ G4, I couldn't run hacks AT ALL. Come Febuary, I believe, I got a 1.5GHZ Powerbook. With this, I was able to run the hacks. I found that, while the hacks allowed me to hit amazing shots, my actual kill/death scores weren't very impressive with them at all. But, just like anyone, if I go from playing at 5 FPS to playing at 50 FPS, my playing improves TONS. I'd switch back and forth, hacks, real, hacks real.

So why is this a problem? Why didn't I tell you guys about this back in, oh, April? Very simple. MP5 won the *DBL. No, we didn't cheat. I never once used a cheat in a CB. I had two seperate copies of RVS, one with hacks and the lowest possible graphics settings, one clean, with maxed out graphics. I'd use the clean one for CBs, and right before CBs ( for preperation ), and the hacked one in regular games.

I knew that if I came forward and said "I've been running cheats for 2 months", no one would believe me that I hadn't used them in CBs. At this point, I stopped playing RVS for the most part. This was going to die, with my gaming career, as my little secret.

So was what I was doing purely a nobel effort to rid this community of cheaters? Don't I wish. It started out that way, but then it became more. It became a game, a game of "Hey, I can do this, I can flaunt it right infront of your faces, and you can't catch it". The gaming wasn't satisfying, I got less kills than I would without it, but the attitude that it was right infront of everyone's faces, but they couldn't catch on was. I won't deny that for a second.

I have tons of respect for Sheix and BFG. They did this for the right reasons. And to be honest? They did a damn good job. Also, I would like to say that no one, no one whatsoever, had knowledge of this aside from me. On top of that, it was NEVER used in a CB.

Why should you trust a cheater? Pfft, I know I sure as hell wouldn't. I didn't try to fight this, I choose honesty rather than protecting my reputation. If I were going to lie, I'd certainly portray myself in a much better light than publically saying "I cheated".

I've kept it on an outside level so far, now let's go a little deeper.

I am incredibly sorry to everyone out there. The people this hurts most are my friends. Only a few people stood up for me, despite the fact that I hadn't even commented on this subject. You guys are my true friends.

I accept full responsibility. I used cheats. I also learned quite a few things, and one is how to spot a cheater a mile off.

This is a discrace to me, all my friends throughout this community, as well as ever other RS veteran. You have my most sincere apologies. Nothing more I can give. I'm sorry. 


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Supernatural Pie on July 25, 2005, 04:24:18 am
The honesty is appreciated.

Regardless of how this community will choose to deal with this sincere apology, you've been a true friend to me for more than three years, and yes, while your actions were... well... questionable, and probably not well thought through, I am choosing to stand by you, because people make mistakes. It is how we choose to follow up on our mistakes that makes us who we are.

Typhy, you've been there for me, and now I'm going to be there for you.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Golo on July 25, 2005, 05:26:25 am
Awright,
So i haven't played a CB in a long time (Rs days), but i still check out the DAMN forums often, and still feel like a part of this community, although being an "old schooler'. Typhy your credibility is shot, and you will always be known now as a cheater, you dumbass, I don't feel bad for you but i feel bad for Snipe, who is a good kid, and will always be looked at as a cheater by association.  You only apologize cuz you gots  pinched...I HOPE U CAN'T FIND A GAME cuz regarless of what u play, glitchers/spawncampers/hackers/cheaters should be hung by the balls, and the only way you'll learn is by taking away the only thing u know..Gamranger


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: c| Spetsnaz. on July 25, 2005, 05:34:42 am
It's cool dude, you only cheated yourself in something of no significance in the scheme of things, perhaps if this teaches you a minor lesson in honesty that you can apply to life, it will have been for the better, for the virtuous are invincible.

PS.

My only discourse with you ever was when I told you to go fuck yourself for giving me shit about lean walking, and that discourse still stands.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on July 25, 2005, 06:43:16 am
I have too much history with Typhy to rationally respond to this but I will say that I believe in Typhy's integrity enough that he wouldn't use those cheats in a clan battle. Argue with me, call me a fool, but that is not the Typhy I knew.

To the community: This is Typhy's mistake not MP5's don't make them pay for something they had no part in.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: 0 Duncan Idaho on July 25, 2005, 07:52:31 am
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Yes, I cheated...maybe 10% of the time

How did you come up with this number? And is smaller better somehow?

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I'd cheat for a couple months, then say I'd done it, just to prove to everyone that it can be done, very easily.

Ahhhh, I see. You were doing it to help us. To save us from ourselves, cause we're way to fucking stupid to realize that cheating could be done easily...

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I get all of 5 FPS running a hack. Do you really think that makes me a better player? Ha! Not a chance...I got less kills than I would without it...Well, truth is, it's about making a point. I loved RVS. When the cheating issue first came up, I was the first one to speak out against it.

Does anyone else think that typhy is actually a martyr to his own outstanding morals? If only more people would protect and nurture gameranger and RvS like this wonderful person...

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So was what I was doing purely a nobel effort to rid this community of cheaters? Don't I wish. It started out that way...It became a game, a game of "Hey, I can do this, I can flaunt it right infront of your faces, and you can't catch it"...I didn't try to fight this, I choose honesty rather than protecting my reputation. If I were going to lie, I'd certainly portray myself in a much better light than publically saying "I cheated".

This one is just freaking choice. It started out as a noble effort??? Fucking amazing. He thinks we didn't know from the beginning, and he still thinks he has a reputation to protect. "I chose honesty" !?!?!? that's just goddamned incredible...fucking classic

You should try politics, cause excuses like the ones you just posted might allow Dick Cheney to get you elected next time around.

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The honesty is appreciated.
Honesty? Are you kidding? Sorry he's snowjobbed you too Snipe. If a person can't even be real in an online video game, do you think the rest of that person's world is really what he says?


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: theweakspot on July 25, 2005, 08:10:21 am
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So was what I was doing purely a nobel effort to rid this community of cheaters? Don't I wish. It started out that way...It became a game, a game of "Hey, I can do this, I can flaunt it right infront of your faces, and you can't catch it"...I didn't try to fight this, I choose honesty rather than protecting my reputation. If I were going to lie, I'd certainly portray myself in a much better light than publically saying "I cheated".

What sucks is this is EXACTLY why cheaters cheat.  The thrill of winning and the thrill of dominating without the other guy being wise to it.  I suck at RvS and you could have beat me from here to Alaska without even trying, but what bothers me is that cheating like this made me put down the game in the first place and will make me leave it again.  Its why there are so few new comers to this game.  They'd rather stick to GhR and know they have an even shot.

Why has RvS always been underplayed... this shit right here.  What sucks is you seem like a nice enough guy who did someting dumb in an avenue of life that is meant to just have fun.  The only person you really really hurt is yourself.

Everytime you cheated and I was in the room, you wated my time.  Thanks, jerk.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Po~ReverendMoss on July 25, 2005, 08:15:22 am
I'm gonna throw my two cents in right here: Good riddance. Screw your reasons, screw your motives. Maybe others will take this to heart and refuse these kinds of assists. Half the game is losing, and if you can't deal with that then you have no business playing. Amp your self-esteem elsewhere.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: cO.libre on July 25, 2005, 08:28:45 am
i agree with weak on this. weak and i have slowly moved into raven shield throughout the past month or so and are now moving back to ghost recon because these things become apparent. i am disapointed, typhy. thanks for the honesty but what the hell makes you want to do these sort of things? if you are so insecure about your playing abilities i would suggest you either keep practicing or quit all together. there are many in the game that have made themselves nearly untouchable because of practice, not through hacks. i think that your cheating is a sign of the future of raven shield. as for me, ive moved back to ghost recon because for all i know its hack free...


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: ~Po~ TiroFino on July 25, 2005, 09:53:21 am
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I stand by Typhy, but I also stand by the DAMN rulebook.

That's like standing by the Devil, but also standing by The Bible!


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: [a] kitkat on July 25, 2005, 09:59:55 am
""""""So, to those people. . . Killer, Ferret, and any others. . . I don't fucking cheat. You want to see the same stuff I was doing, watch the DR guys, any of the other MP5 guys, Niklot, Sheix, or any other experienced and skilled RVS player. To me, when you accuse me of cheating, you're saying "You're on a level so far above me that it seems impossible to me that we can be playing the same game". Obviously, it's no surprised that only a newbie would have that attitude. Read up, study up, and learn to play before you make bullshit acquisations.

Have a nice day,

Typhy"""""""


http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8805.0



NOT ONLY A CHEATER BUT YOU ARE ALSO A LIAR TYPHY.  -  Blocked his ass.  - KITKAT


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Civrock on July 25, 2005, 10:11:26 am
""""""So, to those people. . . Killer, Ferret, and any others. . . I don't fucking cheat. You want to see the same stuff I was doing, watch the DR guys, any of the other MP5 guys, Niklot, Sheix, or any other experienced and skilled RVS player. To me, when you accuse me of cheating, you're saying "You're on a level so far above me that it seems impossible to me that we can be playing the same game". Obviously, it's no surprised that only a newbie would have that attitude. Read up, study up, and learn to play before you make bullshit acquisations.

Have a nice day,

Typhy"""""""


http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8805.0



NOT ONLY A CHEATER BUT YOU ARE ALSO A LIAR TYPHY.  -  Blocked his ass.  - KITKAT

hahaha, that's awesome! ::lol:: besides that, i completely agree with 0 Duncan Idaho, excellent observation and interpretation of Typhy's "apology" which wasn't really one... but rather another insult to the community. how you described it in words, man, just perfect. couldn't have said it better. :)

on another note, though... Typhy has been banned and isn't able to read this personally anymore or reply... so i think we should not go too much further, although i'm pretty sure he'll still be able to read this as guest or will at least get it copy/pasted by somebody. he (and his clan) got their punishment, a double-stuffed permaban.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: ~Po~ TiroFino on July 25, 2005, 10:21:20 am
Quote: http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8805.msg119166#msg119166
Typhy, everytime soneone has said the word "cheating" in these forums or on GR theres always a lot of verbal abuse towards the person who said "cheating" out loud
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I started this thread, talking about cheating. I lead the intial investigation into cheating allegations, along with Harvey.

As an RVS player, I don't think it's in the best interest of the RVS community for people to be thinking that cheating is a major issue.

I wonder why he feels that way!!!! :-X


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: core.Sinister on July 25, 2005, 12:10:17 pm
When I first saw this thread today, my first thought was how I could fight it. Before even stopping to think, my mind has isolated the many weak points in the case, and I was getting ready to exploite them. But then I stopped, I had to think for a minute. Your word is who you are. I honestly could not, even if I were gaurenteed to be successful, stand up right now and I say I didn't do it.

Touching

So, here it is, plain and clear, the complete truth: Yes, I cheated. I started cheating in maybe Febuary? Something along those lines, of this year. I used a console activated no recoil back, coupled with a perfect reticule hack ( maybe 10% of the time ).

The most common thing I've heard said to me on GR since, is "Why? You were a great player already. Why would you need that?"

I get all of 5 FPS running a hack. Do you really think that makes me a better player? Ha! Not a chance.

A no recoil / Retlock hack will not lower your FPS period it would merly be a function change and infact could (depending on the size of RVS's recoil and ret functions) give you a better FPS. Either your totally bsing or you were using a multihack which I expect you were but like a true pussy are only admitting to those that you have to.

No need to quote the rest as its pretty much total bullshit.

To say you didnt use it in CB's is crap and you know it. Im not gonna go into the whole season 10 finals thing but it doesnt matter now as im pretty sure DAMN will revoke that anyway.

As I think sheix mentioned somewhere but maybe not in these words. We know whats possible and whats not in terms of shots and gameplay you were one of those guys who pulled unrealistic shots a hell of a lot of the time. Unfortunatly you got carried away and got slack in hiding it.

 As for the rest of the clan. Well I trust they were either unaware or didnt use this hack themselves we had suspitions on Typhy and watched the rest of the clan very closely.

This is the part where with pretty much anyone else I would say how I still respect you as a person and the fact that you had cheated would only tarnish your reputation as a player.

But with you Typhy I have nothing good to say. Youve gone out of your way to make things hard for our clan basically because your a racist. Your dislike for Flies and Civic and pretty much anyone else who doesnt speak english as primary language proves this.

That is all.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: NiKLoT on July 25, 2005, 12:29:57 pm
OUUUUUUUUCH!!!!!!!!!
that hurts as hell. damnit typhy i really trusted u never ever thought u would cheat. Im not angry at all but disappointed.. i feel so bad. you were and are one of my good friends on gr but im not sure at all if ill be able to trust u in future. Weak and leen u guys are both really cool and a + for the rvs community hmm "are" or do i have to say were?? i understand that u return to ghr but, what is the goal of terrorism? the goal is to feel us unsafe and to be afraid of every further step we have to do cuz we are not sure if a bomb will detonate there. 1 possibility is to run back to ur home and hide in buker, wrong choice if u ask me (dont get it wrong leen and weak i dont call u chicken its just my point of view). An other possibility is to come out of the holes and tell the terrorist to fuck off well u cant do that but at least show them that they cant force us to b scared! I think its similar in this case u really want to stop playing rvs cuz of cheaters? B4 lee was working on an anti-cheatsoftwear i think i would have choosen the 1st possibility too but! lees in da hous! instead of running away, cobat it! Lee is doing some real good work and as soon as we will be able to dl the anti-cheatsofwear i will feel 100% sure that im not playing with cheaters!  

To all hackers out there if u real this topic and the other one: Typhy Betrays MP5 and RVS community by cheating. Vid attached. i hope ull c that its not woth it to cheat!

Now im not sure if it was positive or negative that typhy got cought, dont understand me wrong hacking is totally shit but now everyone will think even quicker then b4 that a good player is cheating. On the other hand now typhy got cought the players c it is possible to catch them and if there were more cheaters they will be cought sonner or later too. As i said as soon as lees anti cheatsoftwear is out well be safe

Ok i think i have to excuse me for my bad english but i hope u understand what i want to say and after this incident i had to writ how i c the situation.

in hope that the rvs community will never die cuz of cheater
best regards NiK


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on July 25, 2005, 12:50:11 pm
Ty nik for the praise.. once the good anti hack is done.. I will reviel who the developers are....... Lets just say one ofthem is the guy who made the hack that all the other PC hacks wre made from.. so trust me.. it will wrok good.. I'm just doing the beta testing of it. But I did take the stance to rid the hackers from OUR RvS games.. And i got these guysto start working on there anti hack agian (they stopped b/c of lack of intrest). The anti hack will be a required mod for playing in the MGL and you will have to have it installed to play in my sever once its finished (if you join without it.. you will be auto kicked for not having it.So hacker beware.. dont do it.. b/c you never know who is watching you


One other thing.. plz dont start accusing peeps of hacking b/c they play good.. Let the guys who have expirence find them.. Just accusing someone of doing it will just cause more probs. If you have a concern about someone send me a pm on the BTs forum (the Server forum) and keep it to yourself.. TY


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: (SiX)Sheixhundt on July 25, 2005, 04:05:06 pm
Great responses from everyone, and i would say i have to agree with most. I had to drop in here and ask that you take a look at a follow-up post concerning this issue in another thread "Looking forward in the RVS Community" and ask that you take a moment (or ten in my case) and read mine and BFG's posts about what we want from all of you.

Again, thanks for the passionate responses, and rest assured,
I WILL MAKE THIS FUCKING GAME FUN AGAIN EVEN IF IT KILLS ME!!!!!

http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8964.0

 ;D


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: ghost.fr on July 25, 2005, 04:33:02 pm
guys cheaters are cheaters if u cant stand cheating then stop CBing !!!!! u think he is the only one !!!! they all do !!!! most of the time, look at some guys always finishing every game alone runing at u on map !!!

and ghr is the worse of all and no one want to fight against it !!!!! even some of my pposts aout  every way to cheat as been removed !!!!, i would prefere that all cheat like a mod so at least it would be egual and until this append i wont or almost not CB, cause i dont want to get fucked
Specialy when i know and cant proove !!!!
I will only CB against some guys and some clans, and i'm still sorry i cant CB BFG ;-) !!!!
cause that a man u can trust !!!!

ps for info i will use cheats in free practice some times so u all can see what it does on skills and u will all be disgusted!! and maybe i say maybe u will stop doing pre season games against cheaters without any anti cheats !!!!!!! cause thats guys is realy stupid !! or just u realy dont care, personlay i do so i wont CB until i'm 90% sure there is no cheats


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: NiKLoT on July 25, 2005, 04:52:27 pm
could some1 turn this guy off?? ghost u can talk about ghr but as sheix said hell rather die then leave the cheaters being cheaters and sheix just so u know ill die with u if it must be!


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: BFG on July 25, 2005, 05:00:12 pm
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guys cheaters are cheaters if u cant stand cheating then stop CBing !

Or catch them, show them up and stop them. Personally i enjoy playing Ghost, and im not prepared to let them win.

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I will only CB against some guys and some clans, and i'm still sorry i cant CB BFG ;-) !!!!
cause that a man u can trust !!!!

And im sorry you don't feel you can cb to.

Regarding cheats in Ghost Recon Its not something i have any knowledge off other than when we caught players using the 'no fog' hack and such like. But people can always be caught - and Ghost Recon has a immense advantage over Raven-Shield with the "record game' feature.


Oh and Niklot, tell me about it, you've no idea how many times ive had to 'noob kill myself' !! (*cough* yeah thats my excuse anyway ;) ) but you just can't watch people when your alive!


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: NiKLoT on July 25, 2005, 05:04:41 pm
humm i dont get it bfg....  ???   im so stupid MONKIIIBALLLZ  ::wall::


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: BTs_MrBombastic on July 25, 2005, 07:04:24 pm
Just to have added my part aswell:

Thanks to everyone who is not blinded by Typhys apology. I myself think he made a fool of himself, coming up with things like "I have done it but just to test it out / just to see if it really works" makes me wanna bomb all the cheaters/hackers even more.

Another big thanks goes to everyone who makes RvS clean of abusers (Sheix, BFG, ...). Even if I don't play very often, I enjoy RvS more and more. The same way my hate against every cheater who is still out there rises.

My eye shall be precise in the future, I will do everything which is in my power to help the community to become clean.
To all the cheaters/hackers:
It's like in real life! The culprit gets caught! HAH, I hope that you'll go to hell! DIE!

goodbye


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: (SiX)Sheixhundt on July 25, 2005, 07:06:25 pm
Nik! Ease up on that brick wall..you'll give your Butt a headache!

What he means, is that the only way to Film suspicious behavior, is to be filming while DEAD...so there have been times, where we have had to die early,and usually in a stupid way, so that we can tape the suspicious behavior.

Cheers mate!
 ::lol::


- removed your double post shiex :)


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: NiKLoT on July 25, 2005, 07:21:08 pm
oho  ;D now i got it


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: we:JollyRoger on July 25, 2005, 07:46:43 pm
I read the whole episode with much amuse.... how one person who got caught hacking and thinks he can insult our intelligence by "justifying" his "reasons" for hacking...tsk tsk my my. I wonder how long will Mr Honorable continue to hack if he isn't caught.... ??? Or will he admit to hacking in time to come?

I don't really know Typhy as a person, but in the episodes I encountered him in games, he's nothing but a pompous ass. There's nothing to be pissed about, actually, in this world, there are lots of assholes anyway.... he's nothing compare to those cowardly bastards who bomb the innocence...Ah, those DESERVE to go to hell...  ::sniper::


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: denete on July 25, 2005, 08:16:14 pm
Sounds like a politician.

- David


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on July 25, 2005, 09:21:37 pm
guys cheaters are cheaters if u cant stand cheating then stop CBing !!!!! u think he is the only one !!!! they all do !!!! most of the time, look at some guys always finishing every game alone runing at u on map !!!

and ghr is the worse of all and no one want to fight against it !!!!! even some of my pposts aout  every way to cheat as been removed !!!!, i would prefere that all cheat like a mod so at least it would be egual and until this append i wont or almost not CB, cause i dont want to get fucked
Specialy when i know and cant proove !!!!
I will only CB against some guys and some clans, and i'm still sorry i cant CB BFG ;-) !!!!
cause that a man u can trust !!!!

ps for info i will use cheats in free practice some times so u all can see what it does on skills and u will all be disgusted!! and maybe i say maybe u will stop doing pre season games against cheaters without any anti cheats !!!!!!! cause thats guys is realy stupid !! or just u realy dont care, personlay i do so i wont CB until i'm 90% sure there is no cheats

You will not be allowed in my server if you are using cheats.. just a little FYI!!!


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Psyks on July 25, 2005, 10:17:09 pm
guys cheaters are cheaters if u cant stand cheating then stop CBing !!!!! u think he is the only one !!!! they all do !!!! most of the time, look at some guys always finishing every game alone runing at u on map !!!

and ghr is the worse of all and no one want to fight against it !!!!! even some of my pposts aout  every way to cheat as been removed !!!!, i would prefere that all cheat like a mod so at least it would be egual and until this append i wont or almost not CB, cause i dont want to get fucked
Specialy when i know and cant proove !!!!
I will only CB against some guys and some clans, and i'm still sorry i cant CB BFG ;-) !!!!
cause that a man u can trust !!!!

ps for info i will use cheats in free practice some times so u all can see what it does on skills and u will all be disgusted!! and maybe i say maybe u will stop doing pre season games against cheaters without any anti cheats !!!!!!! cause thats guys is realy stupid !! or just u realy dont care, personlay i do so i wont CB until i'm 90% sure there is no cheats

I dont even play RvS im still a loving RS player on my old G3 BUT im sorry did I miss something or did he just admit that he will be cheating??  Either im totally missing the point of this post or he just admitted that he cheats and wats to stop him from doing it in a cb himself yet he says he wont cb people who he belives cheat??? When he just admitted to cheating....if ive completely missed the point of this post someone please clear it up for me or there should be another ban.....


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Dark uk on July 25, 2005, 10:34:44 pm

http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8805.0 - Thats a freaking disgrace...

One of the things I love about the Mac gaming community is the clean games with not a cheat in sight and I wish to God that there aren't more people like you out there that might one day destroy this uniqueness that Macs can look proudly upon.


Here is to one down, lets hope we can expose any others or maybe these threads might make them panic and delete their mods ::beer:: .


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: z][t-Rampage on July 25, 2005, 10:56:27 pm
ghosts post is pretty clear guys. he has been looking at what hacks and cheats people have used in ghr for a long time. and he has been publicly trying to do something about it, but no one cares about ghr because its such an old game, is what he was told. and no he does not cheat. he is in the same way as sheix and bfg, trying to let you all know that there are several cheats for ghr. seriously no need to have a go at him. Ghost is a straight up gentleman who has tried to tell ppl whats going on for a long time. thats probably the reason for the energy in his post. plz look up other posts by him and his attempts to bring light to this issue.

and before ppl start talking about him possibly using these cheats himself....he pretty much stopped playing ghr because of this shit that the rvs guys are dealing with right now.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Civrock on July 25, 2005, 11:06:53 pm
the possible GhR "cheats" that ghost.fr explained/showed are a big joke compared to the stuff in RvS. they make playing harder than giving you a real advantage. also, it'd be easy spotable in replays.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: spike on July 25, 2005, 11:12:28 pm
ghosts post is pretty clear guys. he has been looking at what hacks and cheats people have used in ghr for a long time. and he has been publicly trying to do something about it, but no one cares about ghr because its such an old game, is what he was told. and no he does not cheat. he is in the same way as sheix and bfg, trying to let you all know that there are several cheats for ghr. seriously no need to have a go at him. Ghost is a straight up gentleman who has tried to tell ppl whats going on for a long time. thats probably the reason for the energy in his post. plz look up other posts by him and his attempts to bring light to this issue.

and before ppl start talking about him possibly using these cheats himself....he pretty much stopped playing ghr because of this shit that the rvs guys are dealing with right now.


ghost's previous efforts (http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8491.0)


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Psyks on July 25, 2005, 11:36:37 pm
Alright thx for clearing that up guyz sorry ghost i can see where ur frustration is coming from.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: z][t-Rampage on July 25, 2005, 11:51:21 pm
the possible GhR "cheats" that ghost.fr explained/showed are a big joke compared to the stuff in RvS. they make playing harder than giving you a real advantage. also, it'd be easy spotable in replays.

nothing is a "joke" in comparison m8. and his attempt is not a competition on what cheats are worse than the other. we all hate cheating(except from the cheaters) so belitling his attempt in shedding light on something that he felt was important to the community, is rude and narrowminded. perhaps his english comes off as limited compared to many others in these forums, but that doesnt give anyone the right to take him ANY lighter than any other person here. i for one appreciate that he brought up in the first place. just as much as i appreciate Sheix and BFG dealing elegantly with the current situation. cheating is cheating m8. no matter the glitch, mod etc. and no matter what game. as long as people are out there looking for them, im happy.

so..thanx for taking the time Sheix, BFG and ghost.



Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: H e L L B e N T on July 26, 2005, 12:16:23 am
( maybe 10% of the time ).

See Typhy, the problem here is that you're word means nothing.

I suck at RvS, because my computer cannot play it. Do you know how I cope with the situation? I don't play the fucking game. People like you just ruin the game for the guys who want to try to play.

You started with noble intentions? Bullshit, everything you said was bullshit.

"I never cheated in CBs!" is bullshit, why? because you can't prove it.

This is stupid, you make this gigantic apologetic statement trying to "protect your honor" or some shit... Now, maybe you don't have much to do in Alaska, but lets keep things in perspective. You aren't a fucking samurai, you aren't defending your village, you aren't defending your family name, you aren't having a shoot out at noon in the wild west because someone insulted you, you aren't defending your wife, or ability to drink alcohol. You're playing a fucking video game.

A game that you decided to cheat at so you boost your weird perspective of honor and I'm assuming make yourself feel better. I swear to god you need to talk a long walk outside and realize that there's more to living life than this video game and Gameranger. Now if you want to talk about seriously "honor", cheating is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

All this shit about honor is stupid coming from you. Not only do you take the game to seriously, but you take it soooo seriously that you resorted to cheating to win, then you preach on and on about "nobility", "honesty" and "integrity"... I'd rather listen to a hippo fart. thnx

Since you didn't admit to it before you were found out any chance of you "upholding your (web) honor" has been shattered. I'm glad you got caught, and maybe your ban will give you some time to go out and enjoy your states amazingly fresh air.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: cO.Vickedson on July 26, 2005, 01:12:51 am

http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8805.0 - Thats a freaking disgrace...

One of the things I love about the Mac gaming community is the clean games with not a cheat in sight and I wish to God that there aren't more people like you out there that might one day destroy this uniqueness that Macs can look proudly upon.


Here is to one down, lets hope we can expose any others or maybe these threads might make them panic and delete their mods ::beer:: .


For a long time I just assumed that I was getting pwned in RVS because I was trying to run it with a dual 533 G4.  Not exactly the "worst" machine and definitely not the slowest on GR by any means...Every time I played that game would be different...sometimes I played well enough to grace the tops of the charts after each round, sometimes I'd get totally owned without even running 5 feet...but usually I was somewhere in between.

I wasn't one of the first 20-30 guys to get and play RVS.  But I was probably one of the first 100 here on the MAC.  To this point I have a decent time playing it and look forward to many more hours of playing along side the likes of the Six's, BT's, and other GHR vets like myself.

My point is that all this makes me feel a little better about myself, my skill at RVS, and the guys who are running things around here.

During those sessions where I was absolute booty and couldn't kill a sloth making his way across an eight lane highway in broad daylight, I always thought something was going on.  I was like "Sure, that guy who just shot me 80 yds away while runnning full speed was probably just really good".  People would talk about techniques like "fluid motion" and "rushing"....I figured most of these guys just had it down pat and I would never be as good...not until I got a G5 anyway ;-)

I am personally guilty of joking about people cheating when things don't go my way.  I stopped that about a year ago when it became obvious how seriously this is taken by everyone, which it should be.  Because of that, and while RVS was picking up in my favor, I always kept my thoughts about hacks and "super-human" abilities to myself and just chalked it up to what I just mentioned, people being better than me.  This all gets everyone thinking again and like was mentioned earlier...the witchhunt has begun!

The only thing I ever knew about Typhy was that he was a guy on the DBL who complained alot but never really offered anything thankful and/or positive.  I don't understand how you can call the people who created and run the league you play in a NAZI or some other derogatory term and just be fine with it.  BTW, Typhy is NOT the only gamer on here guilty of that.  Let's hope those others change as well.  That's it, other then that he played RVS and not GHR I assumed he was an old vet who cherished his games and the integrity brought about with it...I mean, how could you stay around for so long and log over 3000 posts on a message board without loving it?

So in conclusion I say move on.  Play the game, suspect no one but at the same time suspect everyone...This league is very successful in my eyes which is why I stick around.  I could be out getting laid but I choose to hang out with friends I've met online and fight to the death...so let's keep it up. 

And the next time someone charges down some stairs zig-zagging his way on to a 4.50 sec 40 and clips you before you open your eyes from your previous blinking motor skill.....know it may not be "lag"...

Wickedson


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: bronto on July 26, 2005, 01:41:45 am
typhy self pwned again


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: KoS Ultimo on July 26, 2005, 01:52:52 am
silly typhy dicks are for chicks.  ::lol::

you just fucked yourself for all of the time and effort you put into Mac Gaming. Hope it was worth it.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: (SiX)Sheixhundt on July 26, 2005, 02:12:54 am
Vick,

Quick reply to your concerns....trust me, ive thought the same things.
And i want to reassure you on a few things.

The recent talk has had the secondary consequnce of either creating fears, and inflating fears that were in place..  This is simply not the entire case, and we all must be vigilant on this matter.
If you see someone charge down some stairs zigzagging, and killing you, i would submit that that person is doing two things. 1. they are NOT playing on a 533 machine. and 2. They are running a practiced route, one practiced hundreds if not thousands of times.

I have a 700mg and 1 gig powerbook, and i can ASSURE you its almost, if not totally, impossible to be competitive in a multiplayer RVS game on that platform. IF you have been successful playing coop on such a machine, that is where your misunderstanding is coming from. I cannot play competitively online in MP rooms on my 700 mghtx machine in ANY form. Matter of fact, i can BARELY play the game online worth a shit with my 1 gig powerbook..(which is ANOTHER reason that i can empatically say Typhy was not doing what i was seeing, unassisted..we have the same rigs)

 My one gig CATEGORICALLY TIMES OUT when someone comes down stair or corners me and locks for a second insuring my death, no matter how low the graphics are set. This is a function of the processor..as this game is not as card intensive as others..the only way i could kill with that computer or the 700 was to stay inside, and possible camp..or prefire by a full second when cornering or long distance shots...

These are the facts..I promise.

So Vick, relax some, (not saying you havent seen somethng) but way more likely ..like 97% that you were a victim of your machine and internet physics.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Wombat on July 26, 2005, 02:13:21 am
Heh heh heh heh.

Fuck, I don't even play games on GR anymore and this just made my day.  Typhy was always a little pompous brat.  He made excuses.  He'd bash a technique and then turn around and use it the next day.  He hung around with rapid.  I remember once he even stated that where he was from music was for stoners and he ascribed to this philosophy.  He also takes these games too seriously.  So overall, I always knew he was a giant fucking asshole.

But I never thought he was fucking cheating or would cheat for that matter.  Now this apology comes out?  Man, if you wanted to keep your honor you would have said "I cheated I'm sorry." and left GR.  This essay about how you started doing it for honorable reasons and how it actually hurt your RvS skills is nothing short of cowardly.  Somehow even your apology is arrogant.  

I don't blame people like snipe for standing by typhy.  But his "integrity as a person" is not in tact.  It was hanging by a thread before this and now he chopped it off with an axe.  Sinister, I liked your post the best.  

-Wombat


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: cO.Vickedson on July 26, 2005, 03:01:11 am
Sheix, I hear you.

I think my post came off a bit wrong.  I don't think that cheating is "rampant" in the RVS rooms of this year or last.  By saying that when I personally play the game, all my settings on low @ 800x600 res which is what RVS automatically takes you to, I do a decent job.

10-15% I'm pretty good and actually help my team win.

50-70% I play alright and am neither a burden nor play a decisive role.

10-15% I am total pwnage and people tell me to get off their team.

I've played in 2 RVS cbs (one against Collective one against mp5)...lost them both.  Or I guess 1-1, whatever *DAMN rules...

My point is that my belief of the amount of "cheaters" that exist out there run about those percentages.  When I can't do ANYTHING, and I mean anything then yes, the idea that something is not quite right is there.  I'd say 10-15%...now whether that's time playing or amount of actual cheaters I don't know.  I'm right because I have played RVS with Typhy and others that have been seriously questioned, oh well.  But the entire rest of the time I believe the game is being played clean.  I will continue to play RVS and encourage all others to as well.  The game will not die because of some nimrod.  The rest of us are too mature for that.  How old is this kid?  17-18?  I'm hardley going to let that stop me from having fun.  He's got his ban and hopefully he'll just leave and go find something else to do.  But don't worry, it's all good.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Kangaroo on July 26, 2005, 04:57:30 am
I just thought i would share some of my favorite quotes form typys post about him not cheating

Hey, if they're too weak to play you and need to make up lame excuses, their loss.

Hahahaha.  So lame it was true

Lets see where do i start on this one, first off there is no cheating problem in RvS on Mac at all. People just get pissed off and accuse people of cheating, wine, and scream like a 1 year old crying for a bottle.
You seem to be one of them since you wont give us a real name anyways. RvS is not "at the end of it's life cycle", and it won't be for a while. I don't know how many times i have to say that some people are just really good at the game. Better than you, us, she, and he whatever doesn't matter. No one has been caught with their hand in the cookie jar yet so please stop being so pessimistic and have a beer. Cheer up man games are for fun after all.



Shows your intelligence to be that of a brick wall and probably on par with Typhys!




Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: H e L L B e N T on July 26, 2005, 06:53:20 am
 Somehow even your apology is arrogant.  


Couldn't have put it better...
very very well said.

Typhy maybe if you stop approaching things with this "I'm the 17 year old Eskimo scholar genius" attitude, people would like you more and listen to what you have to say. I think you lie about everything you do, and even lie about what you do in the real world to people on GR... thats how important these games seem to you.



Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: spike on July 26, 2005, 03:33:20 pm
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Hey if they're too weak to play you and need to make up lame excuses, their loss.

Man do I feel stupid now. Doh.


 Btw, the admin team regrets having to ban typhy, and whatever his faults, he was a major part of the community. Therefore, I don't want this thread to devolve into typhy bashing. The guy can't read or respond to your messages now, you're just beating a dead and defenseless horse.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: core.Sinister on July 26, 2005, 04:11:20 pm
Btw, the admin team regrets having to ban typhy, and whatever his faults, he was a major part of the community. Therefore, I don't want this thread to devolve into typhy bashing. The guy can't read or respond to your messages now, you're just beating a dead and defenseless horse.

K sorry but what did he do that was so great? Anyone I speak to has had trouble with the guy and I mean before this all kicked off.

For the record I play on a 1ghz g4 with an abominable GForce4 MX and have owned many of you G5ers on many occasions. ;) Hell I can even clean out 30 player ut2004 servers with most my textures set to high.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: spike on July 26, 2005, 04:16:16 pm
His 3000+ plus points make him one of the top posters on these forums. He lent his time to the BL and provided the community with thousands of hours of intense cbs. While he has let many people down with his behavior, it is worth mentioning that he was a major force in this community, and I will not tolerate a huge typhy bashing fest. I understand initial reactions of shock and anger, but I don't want a prolonged shit-fest.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Wombat on July 26, 2005, 04:20:59 pm
"a major part of the community"  mmmhmmm 

Saddam Hussein was a major part of the Iraqi community.  Hitler of the German community.  I think I'd rather have a good minor "part of the community" than a horrible "major" one.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: Psyks on July 26, 2005, 05:06:29 pm
and provided the community with thousands of hours of intense cbs. .

From what I remember most of these cb's ending with other clan leaders annoyed at his bad attitude....yelling bs when he was down 4-1 then at the end yelling u guys suck if he got a comeback and won in a good battle that possibly went up to 10-8 or 8-6. That might of only been for RS because I never new him as an RvS player but same principles....same game.....same Typhy.  Seems to me he has been a dick fucking people over from the begining and this was his climax.


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on July 26, 2005, 06:18:24 pm
I especially enjoyed his ability to get my clan banned from *damn with his bullshit that everyone fell for.  This is just one great moment to show how this fucktard manipulated the situation to get us banned for his less then average sense.  It is starting to sound like some of us are beggining to believe he just started his sad ways of cheating, but most people are corrupt from the beggining.  I bet we see him under a new name and account soon enough anyways, it's too much to resist to not come back and "show us all", it is what arrogance pompous asses do.  Like I told him before, you are 17, live and learn, or grow old fucking yourself and others over and over again.

man, this is funny


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: ghost.fr on July 27, 2005, 12:57:57 am
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guys cheaters are cheaters if u cant stand cheating then stop CBing !

Or catch them, show them up and stop them. Personally i enjoy playing Ghost, and im not prepared to let them win.

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I will only CB against some guys and some clans, and i'm still sorry i cant CB BFG ;-) !!!!
cause that a man u can trust !!!!

And im sorry you don't feel you can cb to.


MATE i just would like to CB u !!!  since ur gone there is not much left of true players !!! ;-) lets say 40 guys max

but lets hope it will come back!! the good old days


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: BFG on July 27, 2005, 01:02:23 am
Awh Ghost im touched, i'll definatly boot it up and we can go get some great games sometime ::bussi::


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: ghost.fr on July 27, 2005, 01:08:52 am
and thx ramp!! many thx !! my english is not really clear but u got it all !!

anyway i dont mind accuse i have a clear mind !! just sorry we cant trust people anymore, we loose more time looking at punks than playing !!

lets say now i prefer going kitesurfing than CBing

lets hope for a cool new modern game very hard to hack !

still got some hope !!

AND guys i wont cheats dont worry i dont play anyway ! lol and less i'll cb, but i will train my teamates, that still has faith, to get this fuckers



Title: Good Riddance!
Post by: |ÅK|*Deora* on July 27, 2005, 01:17:10 am
Wow, this is the guy, that got caught cheating in a CB when he was in |ÅK| back in the day, which we then proceeded to boot him from our clan.  He then consistantly harrassed our members, and spread his hatred accross these forums on us.  Seems that, once a cheater, always a cheater.  Good riddance.  I asked about Typhy before, and why, if he had gotten caught cheating back in the old *DBL days, why would he be let back.  Seems he had a lot of time in his hand.  A little too much time, with an obsession to be a "great" player, by any means necessary.  Serves him, and any cheater right to be caught, and hung by his head high. 

I have to say, nj BFG, Sheix, and Harvery on your investigative work. 

Now that some of these loud guys, who happened to be the cheaters, are gone out of this place, it's looking more appealing  8)  ::applause::


Title: Re: You guys deserve an explaination
Post by: spike on July 29, 2005, 01:59:20 pm
that was stupid kitkat